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'Intel Based Mac' Rumor Roundup...

Wow... what a violent and well-thought out post.

Thanks. Now we know that we shouldn't speculate because Apple will do the right thing... cough Gil Amelio cough Michael Spindler cough. Cough.

No one is perfect, we're just trying to have fun speculating on this! We're not the ones who have to calm down.

Calih
 
Calihafan said:
The New York Times is pretty unequivocal about the switch. There are few "if's" in the article. If this turns out to be false, I will be very pleased that the New York Times, CNET, and the Wall Street Journal were wrong. Not to mention our favorite pompous tech pundit, Paul Thurrott. Sorry, I just can't STAND him.

I think that Gruber sums it up best at the end of his latest DaringFireball post -

Here’s my bet: Intel is going to produce PowerPC chips for Apple. But I’m only betting one dollar.

That's basically my idea. Intel has the money and the power to produce these chips... I just don't see Apple switching to x86, whether or not, in the long run, its a good or bad idea.

Have a good night's sleep everyone! Everyone at WWDC, have a great time. Tomorrow's going to be an exciting day.

Calih
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Well it certainly wouldn't be the first time the MSM (mainstream media) would get pie in their faces, so to speak.

But has this ever happened before? Have so many major media sources been so confident about an Apple rumour before a Steven P. Jobs (I love that they called him that in the NYT article, btw) keynote?
 
LaMerVipere said:
My thoughts exactly. My superdrive iBook G4 will serve me well until this reported "transition" is over. I've just got Tiger, iLife '05, iWork '05, yada yada, it'll be smooth sailing for people like you and me for some time.
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I'm definitely in this boat as well. Assuming no hardware failures that make my computer unusable, I should be sailing smooth until the transition is over and, hopefully until, it's a 2nd revision of the new computers (don't want any buggy first one).
 
Calihafan said:
The New York Times is pretty unequivocal about the switch. There are few "if's" in the article. If this turns out to be false, I will be very pleased that the New York Times, CNET, and the Wall Street Journal were wrong. Not to mention our favorite pompous tech pundit, Paul Thurrott. Sorry, I just can't STAND him.

I think that Gruber sums it up best at the end of his latest DaringFireball post -

Here’s my bet: Intel is going to produce PowerPC chips for Apple. But I’m only betting one dollar.

That's basically my idea. Intel has the money and the power to produce these chips... I just don't see Apple switching to x86, whether or not, in the long run, its a good or bad idea.

Have a good night's sleep everyone! Everyone at WWDC, have a great time. Tomorrow's going to be an exciting day.

Calih
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I hope your right, only problem is Intel only makes x86 chips. Do you really think they are going to go out of their way for Apple? What is IBM or Freescale going to say about this? Intel can just rip off there technology? I would have thought there would be some agreement announced as well that would link the 3 companies. All of these sources are pretty much saying x86.

Someone said Apple wants to reduce it's prices. Having Intel design some new chip will not do that...installing Pentium 4, Pentium M and Celeron M's well.

I hope your right, but I would bet that dollar that it will be an x86 solution as crazy as it sounds.
 
the more i think about it the more reasons i come up with for this being a good move.

when i read the NY times article it makes even more sense. if you think about it, this is lose, lose for apple. either they keep IBM and have powerbook G5 never released. or, they go with intel, cop the back lash but keep the lines moving.

IBM and apple promised us a 3GHz G5 a while ago and we still haven't got it either, i think apple are starting to realise that the power PC chip just can't be pushed as far as they thought.

personally i'd rather they switch than have a line of portables that are stuck with G4 chips indefinitely. as long as the os and application performance doesn't suffer, i don't see the problem.
 
So, assuming there is a move to x86, what's going to happen to prices of used machines? I can't justify buying a new machine if it's PPC and the company's moving to x86, but I could buy a used iBook or Powerbook and use it for a couple of years, if it was cheap.
 
LIVE WITH IT ZEALOTS

I can't believe People here spewing all this non sense about it can't be ture...Noooooooooooo. They sound as lame a Darth Vader in EP III: ROTS...lol


I Mean c'mon you have

WSJ
The Inquirer
News.com
BBC
NYT
Wired

all saying tha same thing , I can't remember that last time i saw so many top sources mantion the same thing at the same time about Apple or anyone in the tech industry for that matter. Yet you Monkeys say stupid crap like "oh if ThinkSecret hasn't said something is must be BS"

Apple has that poor college boy by the balls he'd had better keep his mouth shut about this if he intends to Graduate from Harvard. Before Apple takes all his tuition money away in court.

that wired article about Transitive and the Pentium D's DRM makes alot of sense.

http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,67749,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

Face it , it's happening Live with it , and no there won't be an Intel PPC chip..sorry :rolleyes:
 
I really hope this pulld through, if it does however, Apple will have to do some major product line improvments in order to keep it's Mac sales stable...

But think how cool it would be to run OSX on your PC...
 
FAT is in

What Steve could present that might get developers interested is the return of the FAT binary type for a compile target. This way he could say the CPU architecture will be invisible, and oh btw, we could start using Intel chips alongside PPC.... does this sound like reasonable spin?

-Wyrn
 
calyxman said:
A new day is coming, a new beginning will unfold. Those of you who are distraught by the abandonment of PPC and IBM, your emotions will soon come to pass.

This is a refreshing step for Apple, a step in the right direction, and this move will open up new doors for the Cupertino bunch.

All of you insisting that this news is smoke and mirrors shadowing a "quad-powered" Powermac G5 are clinging by your fingernails for any last hope; I say, ditch the optimism and turn to realism. A month or two ago when Apple updated the PM's from 2.5 to 2.7 Ghz, I remember many of you insisted that there wouldn't be another update come WWDC--the time gap was too short between the two events.

Intel is a fine company and has excellent technology under it's belt. Big Blue is a big fat whale ready to swallow a large school of fish known as the gaming industry. Apple is 193rd on the list of Big Blue's priorities, right after vacumming the elevators and cleaning the windows at corporate headquarters.

Intel will do good things for Apple, and Apple will grow strong moving to x86.

Rejoice! :D
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I agree with the conclusion that Apple will thrive but for a different reason: Mac isn't all about the processor.

Mac is about iLife.
Mac is about Dashboard.
Mac is about Final Cut Pro.
Mac is about super thin form factors.
Mac is about brushed aluminum.
Mac is about Safari.
Mac is about Photoshop (the way God intended).

Relax, everyone. They sky is not falling.
 
MaCaDDiCT21 said:
I really hope this pulld through, if it does however, Apple will have to do some major product line improvments in order to keep it's Mac sales stable...

But think how cool it would be to run OSX on your PC...
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I think I would puke over all dells and other crap, and anything thats not apples. Everyone would be missing the whole mac "feel". That would never happen as long as Steve is in charge. No offence or anything i relize i sound like im in a pissy mood but i dont mean to.
 
abc123 said:
when i read the NY times article it makes even more sense. if you think about it, this is lose, lose for apple. either they keep IBM and have powerbook G5 never released. or, they go with intel, cop the back lash but keep the lines moving.
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Which basically means pick your poison, a situation that many of us confront in our own lives.
 
Abercrombieboy said:
I hope your right, only problem is Intel only makes x86 chips.
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Are you kidding?? About half of the chips on any PC's motherboard have the little 'Intel' logo blasted on them!! Intel know how to make chips. They have the technology to use incredible manufacturing technologies and have the factories to do it with. Creating a wafer full of PowerPC chips isn't any harder than creating a wafer of P4 or Banias chips, all that has to be changed is the design of the chips that the wafer will be constructed of.
Think of it as having a tub of Lego bricks. You could either build a cube or a stepped pyramid. Is either one harder than the other one? No! Do they use different bricks? No!

I think the Intel PowerPC route will be the way they'll go. Its a shame that it won't be AMD since they're really shining right now and they're Hypertransport technology is very similar to similar technology living in Macs.
 
Wow ... what an awesome discussion thread ... I wonder what we'll be discussing 24 hours from now!!!

:)
 
I say BRING IT ON, STEVE-O! IBM has been screwing Apple long enough. Time to play with the big boys!
 
Cheap-Chopstix said:
Let me be the first one (or one of the first ones) to say that this is gonna be one big hoax... I don't think apple will throw away millions of dollars they have put into the G series processors and dump them so quickly. the G5 hasn't even matured yet. If it does happen ... "Hell has frozen over!"
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It hasn't matured because IBM doesn't care anymore for its further PC use development. It not Apple is making the PPCs.
 
jiggie2g said:
Apple has that poor college boy by the balls he'd had better keep his mouth shut about this if he intends to Graduate from Harvard. Before Apple takes all his tuition money away in court.
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Cheers jiggie. We might be able to finally hang our armor after fighting all those hardware related arguments.

Here's to IBM, for shafting Apple a la Motorola style...
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