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Hey CNET! Where's that Apple Branded Digital Media Set-top Device ? I've been waiting since 2003! CNET = FUD. Don't believe the hype! :cool:
 
skellener said:
You guys really crack me up! Even the "real rumors" sites aren't buying into it!

MacOSRumors
Amazing what one little CNET rumor can do. :cool:

MacOSRumors have a great record for being wrong.

It's not as though Steve Jobs didn't mention Intel and the x86 processors a few times after he returned to Apple. If it happens, okay, whatever. It's another day in the life of the Macintosh.
 
adam1185 said:
If anything AAPL stock will take a dive this morning because of all of the uncertainty.

Apple's P/E is under 41.88, which is a little weak for tech stocks, and also Apple's past investment base. They took a dive on Friday because of the latest labor statistics. But the market as a whole took a dive. The Nasdaq composite fell by 26.37 to 2071.43. Google is sitting at 110.77, and Apple was at 105 before their split.

I own many shares of Apple (won't say how much). But if investors view this as a good long term growth move, Apple stocks will definetly move. And UP **If only there was some way to view pending orders, I could know now what buyer's want. lol

I will go on record to say Apple stocks will go up during the next month. Target of 46-50.
 
bousozoku said:
MacOSRumors have a great record for being wrong.
Yet CNET doesn't have one fact or confirmation to back up their rumor (and that's all it is - a rumor). Everything is simply speculation until Steve speaks this morning!
:cool:
 
Earlier in this thread I pointed out that the WWDC website no longer had schedule listings and someone was kind enough to point out that Apple does this every year explaining that there were some spots open as "TBA".I'm wondering since they closed off the page to only the ticket holders and used the disclaimer of the NDA even to log in and look at the schedules are the "TBA" portions now filled in?
In otherwords,there could be developers out there that already know Apple is switching and the TBA spots are for Transitive Technologies labs etc..

Make any sense ? :)
 
skellener said:
Yet CNET doesn't have one fact or confirmation to back up their rumor (and that's all it is - a rumor). Everything is simply speculation until Steve speaks this morning!
:cool:
Who cares what C|Net have to say at this point? WSJ, NYT, more have independent verification. Though it's long, you may find it productive to read this and the other intel thread.
 
ArizonaKid said:
Apple's P/E is under 41.88, which is a little weak for tech stocks, and also Apple's past investment base. They took a dive on Friday because of the latest labor statistics. But the market as a whole took a dive. The Nasdaq composite fell by 26.37 to 2071.43. Google is sitting at 110.77, and Apple was at 105 before their split.

I own many shares of Apple (won't say how much). But if investors view this as a good long term growth move, Apple stocks will definetly move. And UP **If only there was some way to view pending orders, I could know now what buyer's want. lol

I will go on record to say Apple stocks will go up during the next month. Target of 46-50.

I'm also thinking they will go up after everyone settles down a bit.
 
To people who believe in Holy Grails:

Holy Grails are not to be found. Whatever that company, Transitive, claims, is 100% weapons-grade balonium. Any virtualization (especially of different hardware architectures!) gives a severe hit on performance.
Apple'd better not do that.
Therefore I say: PowerBookG5 today, Intel PPC inside.
 
There have been a few comments that the timing (5pm on Friday, i.e. last chance to get a story out before Monday morning) of the CNET story is suspicious, and points to a planned leak. Then they conclude that that's deliberate misdirection, and something else entirely will be the big news in Jobs's speech. I'll go along with the planned leak speculation, but I think it's for the opposite reason: the story is true. Why would Apple do this? For the same reason they hate it when exciting announcements are leaked ahead of time: foreknowledge reduces the impact and excitement of the formal announcement. The same is true for a negative or controversial announcement -- the impact is blunted by the reduction of the surprise factor. In this case, after we've all had the weekend to get over the initial shock and surprise, and realize that x86 instead of PPC doesn't really matter once the transition is over, we can take the actual announcement in stride, and perhaps even listen to the explanation of why the switch is being made and what the pluses are. Can you imagine the reaction if there was no clue that this was coming and Jobs said to the completely unsuspecting "... and we're switching to x86 processors"? He'd lose everyone's attention to anything he said after that.

I think it's a shame to lose PPC as a viable alternative to x86, but on the other hand using x86 means never being behind the Windows world in performance, and it's one less thing for people to be stupid about. (E.g. arguing about which is better, and not wanting to buy a Mac because of some perceived superiority of something in the PC architecture.) There's also a significant advantage to be had in having Intel's help in beating up on Microsoft.

There are negatives to switching of course, but it's all about the overall balance of the pros and cons. If the pros outweigh the cons, the right action is to switch and deal with the cons as well as possible.

Lazy
 
Brent Turbo said:
Apple will have to significantly lower prices on systems because they can't hide behind the stigma of the G5 chip. Only the most die-hard Mac fan would pay $2999 for a 3.6GHz Intel-tosh with 512MB of ram and a so-so video card, when they could get a tricked out 3.6GHz PC for about half that. We're gonna be comparing Apples to apples if it's Intel's chips being used, and it's going to be extremely hard to explain to 90% of the users out there why a computer with identical specs costs so frickin' much more.

And this is one of many reasons why the rumor as reported is not true.
 
Peace said:
Earlier in this thread I pointed out that the WWDC website no longer had schedule listings and someone was kind enough to point out that Apple does this every year explaining that there were some spots open as "TBA".I'm wondering since they closed off the page to only the ticket holders and used the disclaimer of the NDA even to log in and look at the schedules are the "TBA" portions now filled in?
In otherwords,there could be developers out there that already know Apple is switching and the TBA spots are for Transitive Technologies labs etc..

Make any sense ? :)

No. The TBAs are filled-in after Steve's keynote or after whatever other session makes the relevant announcement.
 
Lazy said:
There have been a few comments that the timing (5pm on Friday, i.e. last chance to get a story out before Monday morning) of the CNET story is suspicious, and points to a planned leak. Then they conclude that that's deliberate misdirection, and something else entirely will be the big news in Jobs's speech. I'll go along with the planned leak speculation, but I think it's for the opposite reason: the story is true. Why would Apple do this? For the same reason they hate it when exciting announcements are leaked ahead of time: foreknowledge reduces the impact and excitement of the formal announcement. The same is true for a negative or controversial announcement -- the impact is blunted by the reduction of the surprise factor. In this case, after we've all had the weekend to get over the initial shock and surprise, and realize that x86 instead of PPC doesn't really matter once the transition is over, we can take the actual announcement in stride, and perhaps even listen to the explanation of why the switch is being made and what the pluses are. Can you imagine the reaction if there was no clue that this was coming and Jobs said to the completely unsuspecting "... and we're switching to x86 processors"? He'd lose everyone's attention to anything he said after that.

I think it's a shame to lose PPC as a viable alternative to x86, but on the other hand using x86 means never being behind the Windows world in performance, and it's one less thing for people to be stupid about. (E.g. arguing about which is better, and not wanting to buy a Mac because of some perceived superiority of something in the PC architecture.) There's also a significant advantage to be had in having Intel's help in beating up on Microsoft.

There are negatives to switching of course, but it's all about the overall balance of the pros and cons. If the pros outweigh the cons, the right action is to switch and deal with the cons as well as possible.

Lazy

this is very very true.
 
bellis1 said:
At least we wont have to hear about the g5 powerbook anymore.


Actually, Intel thing is a head fake...

Steve will announce 3.6Mhz/2G ram/500 GB hd G5 Powerbook with removable screen/tablet...

No fan needed - machine will use excess heat to brew coffee/tea, make toast and power a small controlled fusion reactor...

Talk about fast "burning" of CD/DVDs

:D :D :D
 
alexeismertin said:
Dual G6 Powerbooks next tuesday


('G' still belongs to Apple irrespective of chip manufacturer)

I was gonna say why isn't this just a G6 with a slightly more complex upgrade cycle...I know thats a gross over simplification but you can think of it like that.

Also im in england so i'll be looking at the IRC channels at 6pm DST (5pm GMT) or is that wrong...not sure what time and what time zone the keynote is in/at. Is it 10am in SF?
 
mac512pbg4 said:
Actually, Intel thing is a head fake...

Steve will announce 3.6Mhz/2G ram/500 GB hd G5 Powerbook with removable screen/tablet...

No fan needed - machine will use excess heat to brew coffee/tea, make toast and power a small controlled fusion reactor...

Talk about fast "burning" of CD/DVDs

:D :D :D

oh, i heard it had a cell processor too
 
mac512pbg4 said:
Actually, Intel thing is a head fake...

Steve will announce 3.6Mhz/2G ram/500 GB hd G5 Powerbook with removable screen/tablet...

No fan needed - machine will use excess heat to brew coffee/tea, make toast and power a small controlled fusion reactor...

Talk about fast "burning" of CD/DVDs

:D :D :D

lmao - u made my day! :D :D :D

*Waiting Impatiently for 10am PST*
 
if this is true, i really hope apple won't put those stupid stickers on their computers...

Intel inside, or designed for Mac OS X
 
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