Intel CEO Bob Swan to Step Down in February

WWPD said:
IBM? IBM has a revenue of 77 billion dollars with more than 350,000 employees serving clients in 170 countries.
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You're right.

IBM have retreated as a perceived 'major player' to many consumers, because their laptops don't seem as ubiquitos.

Meanwhile, their business services have grown significantly.
 
alexjholland said:
You're right.

IBM have retreated as a perceived 'major player' to many consumers, because their laptops don't seem as ubiquitos.

Meanwhile, their business services have grown significantly.
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I don’t think they make laptops anymore? I’ve been buying Lenovo ThinkPads for years at work now...

Unless they have a line of like super specc’d specialized laptops (like the Panasonic ToughBook series)?
 
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I can understand people singing Apple Silicon's praises and discussing why the move from x86 was a good one; but I do feel that the negative/disingenuous comments surrounding Intel are getting quite out of line.

So Apple made a business decision not to be an Intel customer. Great, it's been analysed to death already, but why do some now feel that Intel deserves this level of flack? Did Intel publicly criticise Apple in recent years? Did they force Apple into any contracts? I don't recall bad blood between the two companies. If Apple was disappointed that Intel didn't meet targets, then that's a different matter entirely.

To achieve the roadmap that they set out - regardless how ambitious it is - can't be easy. Just because AMD has gained marketshare and ARM will now be taken seriously in mainstream computing, it doesn't mean that Intel are suddenly a useless entity. They tried and hasn't worked out in recent years - it happens in business.

The same applies to the CEO Bob Swan. He gave it his best shot and wasn't up to the task. It doesn't mean the guy deserves to be harrassed.

It's that tribalistic attitude of winners and losers that just comes off as crass.
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The great thing about companies, is that they don't have to listen to MR posters. Did Apple listen when they were told the Tim Cook was not ceo material and the company only had a few years?

Either Intel will get it's act together or not, but however it turns out it's not going to be because of the comments on this forum.
 
Art Mark said:
Intel’s been F’d since Steve Jobs told them power consumption/performance per watt/heat were the main issues in the future and they ignored him.
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'BuT sTeVe JoBs IsNt A tEcHnIcAl fOuNdEr!'

It's almost as if having the ability to comprehend market forces, consumer behavior, product development, and supply chain management is more useful for running a techology business than the ability to design a chip.
 
sirgib said:
* "Financial guys are usually bad choices for leaders of technical companies."

*cough* Tim Cook *cough*
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Good conversation.

I think Cook's done a lot better than people credit him for.

Sure, he's not presided over as many disruptive product launches (although AirPods and Apple Watch are hardly to be overlooked).

But Apple's growth lies in services and building its digital ecosystem to increase revenue per user - probably not in creating a tonne of new product lines.

And no, I think marketers tend to offer the skills required to lead a company - as a very broad generalisation.
 
sirgib said:
Got a link to further info on this?
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Never happened, @Art Mark is wrong.

Steve Jobs said that about G4 and G5 processors, admitting that Apple failed to deliver a 3ghz processor which was part of the reason for switching to Intel processors. Jobs later went to boast about a chart with Intel's 'performance per watt' slide during a presentation (I think this was back in 2005 or 2006).
 
For now as i see and readed bunch of materials X86 architecture are stuck in this competition Unless some geniuous find's a way how to implement better instruction set management for x86. But for now as we see ARM are getting really strong with their performance per watt are way ahead x86 🤔
 
Apple Knowledge Navigator said:
I can understand people singing Apple Silicon's praises and discussing why the move from x86 was a good one; but I do feel that the negative/disingenuous comments surrounding Intel are getting quite out of line.
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You're backing up Intel way too much to a point it sounds like you're a paid spokesperson to defend them.
Apple Knowledge Navigator said:
So Apple made a business decision not to be an Intel customer. Great, it's been analysed to death already, but why do some now feel that Intel deserves this level of flack?
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Well why do Macrumors forum members feel that Apple continually deserves flack for using words such as "COURAGE" that was said years ago? Furthermore Apple has corrected the issue with the butterfly keyboards with the magic keyboard and has a program out to take care of existing butterfly keyboard customers, yet this forum can't seem to let go of the Apple trashing even though Apple has put the keyboard debacle behind them.

Let's not forget what while Samsung has copied Apple (ONCE AGAIN) by removing the headphone jack from their phones it's only Apple that still gets the trashing about it. We are now 5 generations of iPhone since this happened and Apple gets flack.
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Did Intel publicly criticise Apple in recent years?
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Nope, but has Apple responded to all the trashing they get from Samsung by returning the favor? No. Apple keeps it classy.
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Did they force Apple into any contracts? I don't recall bad blood between the two companies.
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The bad blood is coming from how Apple's customers have been lied to from Intel. Every year Intel comes out with a new processor professing more efficiency, faster and just "better". In real life Mac users are faced with over-heating computers within minutes of use from a cold start as well as fast draining batteries. Apple has been getting all the blame for it from people saying Macs are too thin or have terrible thermals. The M1 proved all this to be wrong, and the fault lies on INTEL. Don't forget man that people are spending thousands on Macs and not getting the experience they expect.
Apple Knowledge Navigator said:
To achieve the roadmap that they set out - regardless how ambitious it is - can't be easy. Just because AMD has gained marketshare and ARM will now be taken seriously in mainstream computing, it doesn't mean that Intel are suddenly a useless entity. They tried and hasn't worked out in recent years - it happens in business.
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I cannot even comment on this. Way too much defending of Intel. 🙄
Apple Knowledge Navigator said:
The same applies to the CEO Bob Swan. He gave it his best shot and wasn't up to the task. It doesn't mean the guy deserves to be harrassed.
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I'm only asking this sincerely based on your words here. Were you paid to come here and post this? You're now defending the Intel CEO? Strange beyond means.
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It's that tribalistic attitude of winners and losers that just comes off as crass.
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Intel is screwing customers and unless AMD can take their business away and create processors as efficient as the M1 then the Windows world is now stuck with Intel. I for one am glad Intel lost Apple's business. I have a 16" MBP which I love but I'm tired of the fans ramping up when I have to do any real work in Final Cut Pro, especially on a modest 70 degree weather day. I will gladly get an Apple Silicon 16" when that day gets here.
 
So, my work computer is a Intel Pentium Dell Optiplex 780. We run a custom LOB app and I don’t see this moving to the cloud anytime soon. Intel might become a minority in the future, but it will be around for a long time.
 
DeepIn2U said:
Blackberry is doing just fine with automation in the car industry.
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Compared to what they were, it's laughable. They largely deserve it though, I've never seen a company rest on it's laurels and watch everyone else blaze past them. I used to live in Waterloo, Ontario too, and I can tell you that the lazy mentality went beyond execs, a lot of my friends worked at Blackberry (known as RIM at the time) and they all denied Apple and Android's superior product and still believed Blackberries were at the top... this was even a few years after the initial release of the iPhone. Everyone I know no longer works at Blackberry.
 
Art Mark said:
Intel’s been F’d since Steve Jobs told them power consumption/performance per watt/heat were the main issues in the future and they ignored him.
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When did Jobs tell Intel this? We know for a fact:

1. The AIM Alliance (Apple, IBM, and Motorola) and especially the I part of that could not develop G5's for a laptop that wouldn't melt the ice caps due to power consumption and heat dissipation.

2. The G4 was just not strong enough anymore, already softly hit the limits of the chip, and then severely hit those limits around the time of the Mactel switch.

3. The reason for the big switch to Mactels was exactly about those items you mentioned above. Apple's mantra since the Intel switch was "faster, lighter, cooler."

4. Intel, and especially its Apple contract, stagnated to such a point that an iPad Pro was legitimately more powerful than an Intel MacBook or MacBook Air. Possibly/Probably even stronger than a 13 inch MacBook Pro. And all while not making enough heat to rival the planet Venus and using lower power consumption.

So when did Jobs specifically tell Intel, "You need to do more with X and YOU WILL SERIOUSLY REGRET IT IF YOU DO NOT DO MORE WITH X." That exact type of quote was said during the great debate over CodeWarrior vs XCode.
 
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