True. But guys at that level are usually 'made' for life already.Well, irony is I’m sure he has a great pension and package. This captain won’t go down with his ship!
Legacy seems to be a bigger motivator for them than immediate financial reward.
True. But guys at that level are usually 'made' for life already.Well, irony is I’m sure he has a great pension and package. This captain won’t go down with his ship!
IBM? IBM has a revenue of 77 billion dollars with more than 350,000 employees serving clients in 170 countries.Intel will join the ranks of IBM, Northern Telecom, Blackberry etc. Inevitable.
Woosh!Which other very big and popular company had a rise, fall and rise?
You're right.IBM? IBM has a revenue of 77 billion dollars with more than 350,000 employees serving clients in 170 countries.
Woosh! Which company would that be? And would that be the same company that was alluded to?Woosh!
How did you manage to forget about the company whom you're a big fan of?
I don’t think they make laptops anymore? I’ve been buying Lenovo ThinkPads for years at work now...You're right.
IBM have retreated as a perceived 'major player' to many consumers, because their laptops don't seem as ubiquitos.
Meanwhile, their business services have grown significantly.
ya you would, getting millions in severance to not workSee ya, wouldn’t wanna be ya
Steve Jobs didn't do too badly I heard.
The great thing about companies, is that they don't have to listen to MR posters. Did Apple listen when they were told the Tim Cook was not ceo material and the company only had a few years?I can understand people singing Apple Silicon's praises and discussing why the move from x86 was a good one; but I do feel that the negative/disingenuous comments surrounding Intel are getting quite out of line.
So Apple made a business decision not to be an Intel customer. Great, it's been analysed to death already, but why do some now feel that Intel deserves this level of flack? Did Intel publicly criticise Apple in recent years? Did they force Apple into any contracts? I don't recall bad blood between the two companies. If Apple was disappointed that Intel didn't meet targets, then that's a different matter entirely.
To achieve the roadmap that they set out - regardless how ambitious it is - can't be easy. Just because AMD has gained marketshare and ARM will now be taken seriously in mainstream computing, it doesn't mean that Intel are suddenly a useless entity. They tried and hasn't worked out in recent years - it happens in business.
The same applies to the CEO Bob Swan. He gave it his best shot and wasn't up to the task. It doesn't mean the guy deserves to be harrassed.
It's that tribalistic attitude of winners and losers that just comes off as crass.
Intel’s been F’d since Steve Jobs told them power consumption/performance per watt/heat were the main issues in the future and they ignored him.
'BuT sTeVe JoBs IsNt A tEcHnIcAl fOuNdEr!'Intel’s been F’d since Steve Jobs told them power consumption/performance per watt/heat were the main issues in the future and they ignored him.
Lou Gerstner comes to mind.Yup. In fact great CEOs often are NOT technical.
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Good conversation.* "Financial guys are usually bad choices for leaders of technical companies."
*cough* Tim Cook *cough*
LOL, omg. You're actually serious too.Woosh! Which company would that be? And would that be the same company that was alluded to?
Never happened, @Art Mark is wrong.Got a link to further info on this?
You're backing up Intel way too much to a point it sounds like you're a paid spokesperson to defend them.I can understand people singing Apple Silicon's praises and discussing why the move from x86 was a good one; but I do feel that the negative/disingenuous comments surrounding Intel are getting quite out of line.
Well why do Macrumors forum members feel that Apple continually deserves flack for using words such as "COURAGE" that was said years ago? Furthermore Apple has corrected the issue with the butterfly keyboards with the magic keyboard and has a program out to take care of existing butterfly keyboard customers, yet this forum can't seem to let go of the Apple trashing even though Apple has put the keyboard debacle behind them.So Apple made a business decision not to be an Intel customer. Great, it's been analysed to death already, but why do some now feel that Intel deserves this level of flack?
Nope, but has Apple responded to all the trashing they get from Samsung by returning the favor? No. Apple keeps it classy.Did Intel publicly criticise Apple in recent years?
The bad blood is coming from how Apple's customers have been lied to from Intel. Every year Intel comes out with a new processor professing more efficiency, faster and just "better". In real life Mac users are faced with over-heating computers within minutes of use from a cold start as well as fast draining batteries. Apple has been getting all the blame for it from people saying Macs are too thin or have terrible thermals. The M1 proved all this to be wrong, and the fault lies on INTEL. Don't forget man that people are spending thousands on Macs and not getting the experience they expect.Did they force Apple into any contracts? I don't recall bad blood between the two companies.
I cannot even comment on this. Way too much defending of Intel. 🙄To achieve the roadmap that they set out - regardless how ambitious it is - can't be easy. Just because AMD has gained marketshare and ARM will now be taken seriously in mainstream computing, it doesn't mean that Intel are suddenly a useless entity. They tried and hasn't worked out in recent years - it happens in business.
I'm only asking this sincerely based on your words here. Were you paid to come here and post this? You're now defending the Intel CEO? Strange beyond means.The same applies to the CEO Bob Swan. He gave it his best shot and wasn't up to the task. It doesn't mean the guy deserves to be harrassed.
Intel is screwing customers and unless AMD can take their business away and create processors as efficient as the M1 then the Windows world is now stuck with Intel. I for one am glad Intel lost Apple's business. I have a 16" MBP which I love but I'm tired of the fans ramping up when I have to do any real work in Final Cut Pro, especially on a modest 70 degree weather day. I will gladly get an Apple Silicon 16" when that day gets here.It's that tribalistic attitude of winners and losers that just comes off as crass.
Blackberry is doing just fine with automation in the car industry.Intel will join the ranks of IBM, Northern Telecom, Blackberry etc. Inevitable.
Compared to what they were, it's laughable. They largely deserve it though, I've never seen a company rest on it's laurels and watch everyone else blaze past them. I used to live in Waterloo, Ontario too, and I can tell you that the lazy mentality went beyond execs, a lot of my friends worked at Blackberry (known as RIM at the time) and they all denied Apple and Android's superior product and still believed Blackberries were at the top... this was even a few years after the initial release of the iPhone. Everyone I know no longer works at Blackberry.Blackberry is doing just fine with automation in the car industry.
Intel’s been F’d since Steve Jobs told them power consumption/performance per watt/heat were the main issues in the future and they ignored him.