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jasonefmonk

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May 5, 2011
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This is an almost incredible problem. 10 years of processors, from the most popular manufacturer. So many products running unsupported software will go without updates. So many more will see a significant performance hit. There’s not a lot of silver lining here.

At least now we know.
 

OldSchoolMacGuy

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Jul 10, 2008
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zahuh

macrumors regular
Oct 22, 2004
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Can someone confirm that my macbook pro speed will be slower as my battery degrades? Then, do we know if Apple is doing the same thing with iPhone's as it is with Macs (making them slower to save battery longevity)? Thank you
 

mistasopz

macrumors 6502
Apr 14, 2006
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If this was a bad air bag, they would have to replace it?!

What a bizarre comparison. An airbag that flies out and saves a driver or passenger during a collision is not the same thing as a design flaw in a computer processor. As the article states, this will have to be patched at the OS level. Intel is no more capable of producing perfect chips than Apple is capable of producing bug-free software.
 

cmaier

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Jul 25, 2007
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What a bizarre comparison. An airbag that flies out and saves a driver or passenger during a collision is not the same thing as a design flaw in a computer processor. As the article states, this will have to be patched at the OS level. Intel is no more capable of producing perfect chips than Apple is capable of producing bug-free software.
But they should be capable of producing CPUs that don’t require the OS to be patched. Firmware patches, microcode patches, etc. are one thing. But requiring the OS to be patched is always a fail.
 

dlemmon

macrumors regular
Jun 14, 2009
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So.... I can put up with a 30% slowdown (which includes an unwanted os upgrade), buy a new computer, or leave the venerability in place? This sucks.
 
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dantroline

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Oct 28, 2016
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What a bizarre comparison. An airbag that flies out and saves a driver or passenger during a collision is not the same thing as a design flaw in a computer processor. As the article states, this will have to be patched at the OS level. Intel is no more capable of producing perfect chips than Apple is capable of producing bug-free software.
An intel computer is used to store sensitive information, say, on police informants, or other vulnerable people. If it can be demonstrated that this flaw resulted in the deaths of those people (its not just a performance problem but a security one), then it's as big as an airbag issue. Just because computers don't have sharp edges or only sit on desks doesn't mean they can't hurt people.
 

mi7chy

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2014
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Good thing for competition. I alternate between AMD and Intel with every system purchase. Fortunately, I'm on AMD and next system may very well be AMD (Threadripper) again.
 
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Dorje Sylas

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Jun 8, 2011
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Just another reason for Apple to finally start building their own desktop processors for the Mac line... :cool:

Until they also get caught goofing something at the lower level architecture. And unlike Microsoft I don't expect Apple to put out updates to vulnerable machines that are actually a decade old and can't run the latest (and also super buggy) macOS.
 
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