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Would love to see how post-Apple era intel chip compete against Apple silicon in terms of raw performance.
We'll have that opportunity soon: Apple's first ARM laptops vs. Intel's Tiger Lake ...
Assuming TSMC's 5 nm is roughly equivalent to Intel's 7 nm, that means TSMC will be a full 2 years ahead of them by 2022, assuming Intel actually hits that claimed target date.
AMD has confirmed that Zen 3 will still be based on TSMC 7nm (which is about on par with Intel's 10nm). Zen 4 on TSMC 5nm will probably not hit before 2022. So for desktop and server CPUs it's probably not that bad for Intel.
 
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We'll have that opportunity soon: Apple's first ARM laptops vs. Intel's Tiger Lake ...
AMD has confirmed that Zen 3 will still be based on TSMC 7nm (which is about on par with Intel's 10nm). Zen 4 on TSMC 5nm will probably not hit before 2022. So for desktop and server CPUs it's probably not that bad for Intel.

The first ARM Macs will be based on the A14 chip which uses TSMC’s 5nm architecture. They will be available later this year. So for desktop it’s that bad for Intel.
 
The first ARM Macs will be based on the A14 chip which uses TSMC’s 5nm architecture. They will be available later this year. So for desktop it’s that bad for Intel.
Maybe. I'm not convinced that we'll see high-powered ARM desktop CPUs very soon. Being able to produce 5nm chips doesn't necessarily mean that they are stable at high frequencies. I think it's more likely that Apple will start at the low end of performance with ARM. Besides, Apple is a very small player on the desktop and not really present in the server market. AMD is Intel's main competitor.
 
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It’s been rumored that the Apple silicon on the first Macs will be 12 core. 8 high performance cores and four energy-efficient cores. So if the single core performance is similar to the A12Z single core of 1115, we are looking at at least 8,900 in multi-core performance. So if the rumors are true, it will blow away anything Intel has to offer in a laptop.
 
i remember the days doing contract work for intel when they were the kings of cpu
also remember defective cpu incased in clear plastic to make employee keycahins from defective chips
used to hear stories from fab workers throwing away loads of defective wafers
looks like they will be making more keychains
sorry to hear intel going down hill
 
How embarrassing for Intel. And they have the nerve to compare themselves to TSMC,

meanwhile TSMC have been manufacturing 7nm Chips since 2018, poor Intel
 
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It’s been rumored that the Apple silicon on the first Macs will be 12 core. 8 high performance cores and four energy-efficient cores. So if the single core performance is similar to the A12Z single core of 1115, we are looking at at least 8,900 in multi-core performance. So if the rumors are true, it will blow away anything Intel has to offer in a laptop.

It’s over 9,000!?!
 
It’s been rumored that the Apple silicon on the first Macs will be 12 core. 8 high performance cores and four energy-efficient cores. So if the single core performance is similar to the A12Z single core of 1115, we are looking at at least 8,900 in multi-core performance. So if the rumors are true, it will blow away anything Intel has to offer in a laptop.
Recent benchmarks indicate that Intel's Tiger Lake may be far superior to AMD's Renoir U in terms of single core performance, and a 4-core Tiger Lake may be almost as fast as an 8-Core Renoir. It will be interesting to see how Apple's ARM CPUs fit into the picture ...

 
Thats quite strange, check is something is wrong with you setup, resolution, background software... this is not related to intel. If the fan are spinning, CPU or GPU is hot, maybe something is taking CPU od do you keep your machine where it can dissipate?

I'm typing this on an 8-core MBP16 with 2 x HD monitors with > 80 browser tabs (Chrome, Safari & Firefox), Spotify playing, Excel, Powerpoint, Mail, Slack, OneNote and the fans don't appear to be running. The computer is mildly warm on the bottom (it's on a stand).

If CPU gets up to 100% during a OneDrive or DropBox sync or file indexing then the fans come on, but not to annoying levels.
 
Scaling a process is not a easy task so if you think that Apple is going to snap their fingers and have a processor that can pass the speed and perform of a i9 or a Xeon has to be kidding themselves. Yes Apple is at the A12 but it is going to take a couple more generations to get their performance levels up of the current Intel processors provide now. Scaling is not easy.
 
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