So you think the new Mac Mini will weigh 30 lbs. then? How do you figure it is Mac Minis and not Cinema Displays? Well hell would have to freeze over for it to be Cinema Displays so you could be right lol.
Why wouldn't the Mac Mini get this new CPU?
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Intel Delays Montevina Platform to July 14th
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So you think the new Mac Mini will weigh 30 lbs. then? How do you figure it is Mac Minis and not Cinema Displays? Well hell would have to freeze over for it to be Cinema Displays so you could be right lol.
Why wouldn't the Mac Mini get this new CPU?
X3100 versus the current GMA950? Twice the graphics performance, and, oh yeah, official support for Hi Def...
And it may not sound like much, but any capacity improvement over the Mini's 80GB HDD is greatly anticipated. Hell, my circa '02 iMac had 60GB...
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What bug free one ?
..last time I looked there is a big problem with audio bleeping /hissing , popping etc etc .....
I'll buy a bug free computer ...where is it ?
Differentiate
And the need to differentiate a laptop from a non-laptop comes from ????
Ever since the transition, it seems Apple has been cleaning up gilt about laptops ... It's okay Apple, We Forgive You (we know it was those IBM chips ...) ... Now, show the desktop machines some care or others will (badly).
I think integrated gpu is quite important for the current mini form factor as it would allow to upgrade cpu & graphics (socketed (sp?) chip), when better chips come from Intel ... (something you cannot do in an iMac)
And the need to differentiate a laptop from a non-laptop comes from ????
Ever since the transition, it seems Apple has been cleaning up gilt about laptops ... It's okay Apple, We Forgive You
(we know it was those IBM chips ...) ... Now, show the desktop machines some care or others will (badly). I think integrated gpu is quite important for the current mini form factor as it would allow to upgrade cpu & graphics (socketed (sp?) chip), when better chips come from Intel ...
(something you cannot do in an iMac)If Apple is waiting for prospective mini users to get a Mac Pro, they may as well sit down ...DI-TTTTTOOOOOOOO!
About the possible mini update. Lets face it, the mini serves its purpose, and apples. If they upgrade it, theyll FOR SURE lose sales on the MacPro.
Hw Updating schlaunfreude (sp?) ... Apple is different
theres nothing to say that apple wouldn't do a dual graphics card approach, similar to that on some sony/asus (I think) laptops.
Looking back, that doesn't seem to be the case. They have released MacBook updates in May of 2006 and 2007, and probably would be out june this year if it wasn't for intel's delay.
https://www.macrumors.com/2007/05/15/apple-releases-new-macbooks/
https://www.macrumors.com/2006/05/16/apple-macbook-intel-ibook-released/
MB pro in June 2007:
https://www.macrumors.com/2007/06/05/apple-releases-new-macbook-pros-with-santa-rosa/
iMacs tend to update in the fall, although the update this past April was an exception.
They definitely use BTS to clear out iPods before introducing new models in the fall...but that's not always the case for computers.
DI-TTTTTOOOOOOOO!
About the possible mini update. Lets face it, the mini serves its purpose, and apples.
So I guess that purpose is...selling as few boxes as possible?
The mini doesn't need to be fast. But the current configuration is a turd compared with boxes on the windows side in that price range. Apple either needs to update it to current components or drop the price. Or since they offer multiple models, do both. The idea that they must keep the mini crappy or lose MacPro sales is a terrible one, the giant hole in the product line just means they are losing some sales completely.
There are some basics that would help the mini immensely but still not get it anywhere close to a MP. 4+ gigs of ram, dual monitor support, cpu and mobo that aren't carved from limestone. But it will never be a great box OR a bargain one unless they redesign it into a real desktop form factor and use desktop parts.
Further clarification and details on the delay: (note Centrino 2 = montevina )
"Two issues are contributing to the delayed rollout of Centrino 2: an issue with the integrated graphics controller on the GM45/GM47 and FCC certification issues with the Shirley Peak 802.11n wireless controllers. Intel spokesman Bill Kircos claims that the graphics anomaly was caught in final testing and a workaround has been identified. The WiFi/FCC mishap was due to "paperwork and certification mistake we made" according to Kircos."
source
The graphics bug was reported back in April. As far a work around is concerned, at the time of the report only the HD decode part of the chip was bugged. Everything else was functional. At the time of discovery in April it was reported that "no non-functional parts will be released. Unofficial word from others at the company say that only a small portion of the chips have problems, and that it only affects a single codec. These will be screened before it reaches customers."
And another report that matches up to my previous post (this will not affect MacBook Pros)
"Intel spokesman Elvin Ong said, "We are taking the extra days to address two issues that require us to re-screen our chipsets with integrated graphics, and attend to some terms and conditions mistakes while filing and testing our wireless antennas. We are not going to ship a sub-par product into the market."
So for all you Apple users that arent really familiar with Intel and x86 world. This isnt a cause for panic. Apple only uses integrated graphics in Macbooks and Mac minis. If the decode problem still exists (which in will undoubtly WONT) companies like Broadcom are ready to step up and provide an HD decode chip in the mean time. Intel has been executing its roadmap flawlessly up until spring where it had a few minor mishaps. Instead of June 14th its now July 22nd. A one month delay isn't the end of the world and this doesn't necessarily mean we won't see an updated line of Macbooks/Pros. I love how people jump to conclusions. "OMG Apple is being dragged down by intel's delays blah blah"
One thing to keep in mind. In the Macbook Pro, Apple doesn't use Intel's wifi chip (scratch one of the problems) nor does it use integrated graphics (scratch problem 2 of 2). One thing is for sure, if we don't get an updated MBP, its NOT because of intel.
Gimme a break. I cannot wait for Centrino 2
"Two issues are contributing to the delayed rollout of Centrino 2: an issue with the integrated graphics controller on the GM45/GM47 and FCC certification issues with the Shirley Peak 802.11n wireless controllers. Intel spokesman Bill Kircos claims that the graphics anomaly was caught in final testing and a workaround has been identified. The WiFi/FCC mishap was due to "paperwork and certification mistake we made" according to Kircos."
source
The graphics bug was reported back in April. As far a work around is concerned, at the time of the report only the HD decode part of the chip was bugged. Everything else was functional. At the time of discovery in April it was reported that "no non-functional parts will be released. Unofficial word from others at the company say that only a small portion of the chips have problems, and that it only affects a single codec. These will be screened before it reaches customers."
And another report that matches up to my previous post (this will not affect MacBook Pros)
"Intel spokesman Elvin Ong said, "We are taking the extra days to address two issues that require us to re-screen our chipsets with integrated graphics, and attend to some terms and conditions mistakes while filing and testing our wireless antennas. We are not going to ship a sub-par product into the market."
So for all you Apple users that arent really familiar with Intel and x86 world. This isnt a cause for panic. Apple only uses integrated graphics in Macbooks and Mac minis. If the decode problem still exists (which in will undoubtly WONT) companies like Broadcom are ready to step up and provide an HD decode chip in the mean time. Intel has been executing its roadmap flawlessly up until spring where it had a few minor mishaps. Instead of June 14th its now July 22nd. A one month delay isn't the end of the world and this doesn't necessarily mean we won't see an updated line of Macbooks/Pros. I love how people jump to conclusions. "OMG Apple is being dragged down by intel's delays blah blah"
One thing to keep in mind. In the Macbook Pro, Apple doesn't use Intel's wifi chip (scratch one of the problems) nor does it use integrated graphics (scratch problem 2 of 2). One thing is for sure, if we don't get an updated MBP, its NOT because of intel.
Gimme a break. I cannot wait for Centrino 2
X3100 does not have hardware VC-1 or AVC acceleration, only MPEG-2 (DVD). It does not matter anyway, since Quicktime does not use GPU acceleration on HD content decoding.
X4500 will be full decode/encoder of HD media with support of all the codecs, and thus Apple line will be HD ready and hopefully we'll see a Quaicktime update with Video Processor support (on the GPU) for HD media. (and then we'll see Blu-ray Drives offered from Apple itself, starting with Mac Pro)
So we actually could get a MBP update in June ? I guess that only God and Steve Jobs know.
still holding on till June though, hope my 867 Powerbook keeps going, I have been waiting a year for a decent update, and montevina and the new case design rumours is what
...may as well just wait for Nehalem in 09
so, I need a MacBook for this summer. should I buy it after seeing if anything will happen at WWDC? or wait until July/Aug/Sept? will the next macbook update be really really important?
You said it yourself. You need a Macbook. If you need it badly, buy one. A computer does not magically slow down after it gets replaced by a newer, faster model. You need one, buy one. You want one, you can either buy one, or wait.
Next MB update will probably be a major one with a new exterior design.
is the quarter 3 update going to be major? posts before me say that the next major one will not be until 2009
Yes of course. Even if somehow the delays effect MBPs, which they SHOULDNT, it's only another month. Why CANT steve jobs anounce new products in June at WWDC and have the rollout a month later? They've done this paperlaunch before with many products. People act as if if its anounced at WWDC it has to be available ASAP or its not coming out!... sheez Remember all those announcements with "shipping in ____" right after it's announced...People have such short term memory.
No way in hell we're not going to see a just a minor speed bump until '09, that's the last thing we got with the penryns. It's only delayed by one month, so that automatically makes it less major and skipped altogether for Nehalem? And if you know anything about mobile nehalem, it's q3 '09 on roadmaps. You think apple is going to wait another 12 months from now to do something to the MBs? You are crazy.
You misunderstood my meaning ...if the guy had been waiting a year already for Montavena then he could wait a bit longer till Nehalem.
I do think some small improvement will happen to either MBP or Macbook or both (doubtful both imo) hopefully the mini will see something too .But the main update really will be Nehalem with all that it offers over what is available now and Montavina.
UHH.. Apple has not done anything spectactular to their macbook/pros in the last three years. Why now? Nahelm gives them an excuse to make something big happen. Read up on these boards a little bit more. There are few rumors to suggest anything big will happen this year.
Thermal properties of Montevina does not require a total redesign as it's very similar to Santa Rosa platform. With the Introduction of Nehalem architecture, Calpella will replace Montevina and possibly a new design will debut in 2009. But Apple could also listen to it's customers and introduce an all new aluminum MB with Montevina, who knows?
Why rush? Nehalem shrinks to 32nm in '10, which will probably give a small speed bump and/or battery life improvement. Then there's a whole new architecture coming in '11. I mean, if this joker's been waiting this long for a "decent update" to his computer equivalent to a Honda CVCC engine, he might as well wait a few more years. Certainly that G4 can hold out until then... my old '82 Accord was pushing 1.2M miles when I finally "upgraded".
Because they either end up sitting on a bunch of old stock they have to blow out at lower prices, or they time it so they sell out of the old stuff before they announce the new and we get 1000 posts of "How can Apple sell out of this product for a month?" like we did with the iPhone in the UK.
Looks like Montevina is slipping a bit longer...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/28/centrino_delay/
I've got my MBP Merom Rev2 and I don't think I'll be buying a new laptop until this time next year - I figure Nehalem should be around by then and pick one up with my ADC discount...
This lappy is great for vista and macos...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/28/centrino_delay/
I've got my MBP Merom Rev2 and I don't think I'll be buying a new laptop until this time next year - I figure Nehalem should be around by then and pick one up with my ADC discount...
This lappy is great for vista and macos...
Oh I am so glad that I got my Penryn MBP when it first came out. My "technology life" is SO much better.
The thought of me still slugging it out on my 2002 Gateway 900MHz Celeron in anticipation of a "new design" of the MBP just makes me go crazy.
The thought of me still slugging it out on my 2002 Gateway 900MHz Celeron in anticipation of a "new design" of the MBP just makes me go crazy.