that's a good point actually. but how much battery life can one expect to gain with this approach?
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Intel Delays Montevina Platform to July 14th
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that's a good point actually. but how much battery life can one expect to gain with this approach?
Thanks for the HUGELY informative post. I've heard bits and pieces of a lot of things in different places, and this tied it all together for me.
Uh, wouldn't the Mac Mini not being a notebook be more than enough to differentiate it from the MacBook?
If you turn the discrete card off, the battery life is no worse than just having the integrated graphics.
I agree that post helped me a little but I'm still confused about one thing, is it time to buy or no? I'm selling my Powerbook G4 on wednesday, I was doing so in the hope of buying a new one after the June show, now I guess I do what? wait till july? september? January? I'm not sure what to do, any suggestions?
lol yes
He gave more background about Intel and what their problems imply to the Mac platform.
I guess some of us aren't smart like you, and we 'properably' need things spelled out clearly. Sorry if that disappointed you.
The truth is that no one can answer that question! This is a rumor site, everyone is talking about rumors.
Personally, unless you are prepared to go without your laptop for a possible long period of time, or if you could live with purchasing the current model MBP, then I would hang on to your PB.
Apple will keep announced products secret until they are officially ready to announce them. Until the WWDC, everyone is just guessing. 50 times out of 100 Apple disappoints the rumor sites by not releasing the anticipated feature rich product. The other 50 times out of 100, Apple completely surprizes the rumor sites with an entirely different product altogether.
Just go for it. Unless you plan on waiting till Nahelm + case redesign (who the hell knows when that will be), I don't see the need to wait another three months for a speed bump, especially since you are going without a computer now. You are going to start kicking yourself in two months when the macbook refresh is STILL a rumor, and you could have had a snazzy notebook the whole time.
So I guess moving its laptops from PPC to x86 with Core Duo in 06 and then another leap to Core 2 duo in 06/07 (well within the last 3 years) is not spectacular at all?...It was actually pretty easy, just ask any of their engineers.../sarcasm
First off I do read these forums, and I'm not trying to toot my own horn here but I know Intel's roadmap pretty darn well, I'd say really well..And with that comes a knowledge of and great insight on apple products (well, because they use Intel parts!) more so then actual apple users themselves. I don't need to read all the rumors on this site to understand what's going on, because what's going on is Intel's roadmap, and I know that. But let me entertain this for you though...
Why now you say? Well Intel is officially relaunching its centrino brand with Centrino 2 this summer/fall (or whenever they decide to) and with that comes a multi-million dollar ad campaign and for tier 1 vendors and OEMs (HP, Dell etc) (apple is special but like a tier 1 oem) multi-million dollars in rebates if you use Centrino (2) parts. Why WOULDN'T apple want to take apart of this? If they skipped out on Centrino 2 and for the macbook pros specifically the BASE of Centrino 2, 2nd gen penryns + Cantiga (actual chipset) they'd be technologically inferior to all its competitors AND they'd be refusing free money (rebates from intel)...
You don't understand, not everything is driven by the technoloy but the politics behind it. Everyone and their brother (meaning companies) are coming out with hot, new fresh Centrino 2 based laptops...Why? Because it offers LOTS OF improvements but most importantly the PR machine that comes a long with it. Apple would downright silly to miss out on all of this. A mobile quad core at 35w thermal envelope is nothing short of amazing, and only Montevina can support that. I can go on for days...sheesh.
P.S. its nEhAlem
Update w/out Montevina
I reckon the question is what the odds are of Apple updating without the new Montevina-chips. If - most likely - they won't update without Montevina, then 1+1=2 and we won't see updates until July 14th when Montevina arrives. Right?
I reckon the question is what the odds are of Apple updating without the new Montevina-chips. If - most likely - they won't update without Montevina, then 1+1=2 and we won't see updates until July 14th when Montevina arrives. Right?
No, either they will announce it and ship when Montevina is ready, or they will announce at ship around July 14th. They won't do two new generations within a month of each other.
hmm... well I start college on like August 14th, and it would have been nice to have the redesign, but as some people have said, idk if I even would like the redesign. So I guess I'll wait till they announce that college program (which last year was June 5th.. first Tuesday of the month), so I'm guessing June 3rd will be the day I'll be buying my first mac ever!
From what I've seen with the sony's anything upto 2 hours extra on a 13" screen.
I'm going to buy my first MBP.
I've decided to buy it since May and as soon as I read about a possible refresh in June I decided waiting just till WWDC.
If in June it won't be this famous refresh I'll buy the actual MBP 15" and stop.
It's stupid imho waiting a lot of time.
When Apple will decide to make a big refresh of the MBP I may sell my MBP and buy a new one.
Simply and no troubles.
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I've decided to buy it since May and as soon as I read about a possible refresh in June I decided waiting just till WWDC.
If in June it won't be this famous refresh I'll buy the actual MBP 15" and stop.
It's stupid imho waiting a lot of time.
When Apple will decide to make a big refresh of the MBP I may sell my MBP and buy a new one.
Simply and no troubles.
)what college program are you talking about?
I'm guessing you don't mean education discount... http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/routingpage.html available all the time?
did I miss something? ^that marked my cart down few hundred bucks after notebook+applecare+some software...
Price increase
I just called the NYU computer store to inquire about the MBP (they sell the 2.4ghz 15" model for $1,700) and the guy there informed me that they got word from Apple that come this Monday their prices were going up at the NYU store. He said they weren't told which models, if it was going to be all or only select models, or by how much only that they should be prepared for it on Monday.
Could mean they are raising them to match the education discount at the normal apple store but they have had the same price points at the NYU store since before the last speed bump in Feb. Thought this was an interesting bit of info given the recent rumors about intel's delays and the upcoming WWDC
Update:
Then again, this could be the reason too....
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...lanning_biggest_back_to_school_promo_yet.html
I just called the NYU computer store to inquire about the MBP (they sell the 2.4ghz 15" model for $1,700) and the guy there informed me that they got word from Apple that come this Monday their prices were going up at the NYU store. He said they weren't told which models, if it was going to be all or only select models, or by how much only that they should be prepared for it on Monday.
Could mean they are raising them to match the education discount at the normal apple store but they have had the same price points at the NYU store since before the last speed bump in Feb. Thought this was an interesting bit of info given the recent rumors about intel's delays and the upcoming WWDC
Update:
Then again, this could be the reason too....
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...lanning_biggest_back_to_school_promo_yet.html
crossfire means... back to school promotion...
meaning u buy a macbook and u get an ipod nano for free kinda like that... i am too lazy atm to explain it.
and last year it was th 5th june when they offered it. if u want further infos dont ask me
ahh... thank you.
you can keep your nano though.
you were motivated enough to reply and roll your eyes... and tell me you're lazy. would a little more explanation have killed you?
yea sorry for not being clear about that! haha But yea its the discount they do every year for the ipod deals (its either $100 or $200 off any ipod.. not just the nano, they just market it as the nano because it becomes free then afterwards). Thanks for clearing it up though!
I'm going to buy my first MBP.
I've decided to buy it since May and as soon as I read about a possible refresh in June I decided waiting just till WWDC.
If in June it won't be this famous refresh I'll buy the actual MBP 15" and stop.
It's stupid imho waiting a lot of time.
When Apple will decide to make a big refresh of the MBP I may sell my MBP and buy a new one.
Simply and no troubles.
Amen, I bought my macbook pro today and I absolutely LOVE it. No regrets over here.
I'm handing over my MacBook to my friend tomorrow and then visiting the Apple Store in Portland (OR) and I have a feeling I'm walking out with a MacBook Pro even though I planned to wait for WWDC. But right now with absolutely no hints about new chassis or anything else, I don't think I want to come home empty-handed.
And if they do release something epic at WWDC, I'll eat the 15% re-stock fee.
And if they do release something epic at WWDC, I'll eat the 15% re-stock fee.
"Montevina Delays are No big deal"
Hate to say it, but I told you so...
"iT IS NOT NEWS that Montevina is late, nor that it is going to have repercussions, but the question is why did this happen. Related to it is what is the fallout.
The mostly official why is that there was a paperwork snafu with the FCC and the wireless portion didn't get certified. What isn't being said is that Montevina uses a PCIe half-card format for its 802.11x cards. Intel can't step back to the older a/b/g card because those are full sized and simply won't fit. Ah, the joys of bleeding-edge packaging.
Intel has never been too good at new wireless standards, and the paperwork snafu does not explain the rumours of a new silicon spin we are hearing about. Other rumours are that the 802.11n portion will be fused off, and initial Montevinas will be a/b/g only. Not a huge loss for any consumer, but a black eye for Intel."
Apple has never used Intel wireless cards..Ive said it before and I will say it again, the Monte delay doesn't effect Apple, in the very least not the MBP..
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Hate to say it, but I told you so...
"iT IS NOT NEWS that Montevina is late, nor that it is going to have repercussions, but the question is why did this happen. Related to it is what is the fallout.
The mostly official why is that there was a paperwork snafu with the FCC and the wireless portion didn't get certified. What isn't being said is that Montevina uses a PCIe half-card format for its 802.11x cards. Intel can't step back to the older a/b/g card because those are full sized and simply won't fit. Ah, the joys of bleeding-edge packaging.
Intel has never been too good at new wireless standards, and the paperwork snafu does not explain the rumours of a new silicon spin we are hearing about. Other rumours are that the 802.11n portion will be fused off, and initial Montevinas will be a/b/g only. Not a huge loss for any consumer, but a black eye for Intel."
Apple has never used Intel wireless cards..Ive said it before and I will say it again, the Monte delay doesn't effect Apple, in the very least not the MBP..
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