Intel Demos 45nm Penryn Processors, Due by end of 2007

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    NY Times reports on an advance from Intel which is said to represent "the most significant change in the materials used to manufacture silicon chips since Intel pioneered the modern integrated-circuit transistor more than four decades ago."

    Intel is moving towards the 45nm manufacturing process and demoed (CNet) 45-nm Penryn chips during a press briefing. The Penryn chips are said to be available "before the end of the year."
    The advances in the manufacturing process include the use of new insulators and new metallic alloy materials in transistor components. Current Intel chips utilize a 65-nm manufacturing process. As always, the move to the smaller processes tends to improve performance and decrease power consumption.

    According to this article, the Penryn family of chips will deliver new laptop dual-core microprocessor, a desktop dual-core and a quad-core, and server dual and quad-core processors.

    Apple will, of course, benefit from these new processors when they are released, and Intel has stated that the current prototypes are already booting Mac OS X -- indicating that Apple is already involved in early testing.

    More technical details: TGDaily and AnandTech
  2. DMann macrumors 601


    Jan 13, 2002
    45 Nanometer Processor

    Now we're talking - power and true power saving!
  3. oceanmonster macrumors regular

    Jan 15, 2007
    I'd bet that Apple will debut these processors in their next generation Laptops and Desktops.
  4. Abstract macrumors Penryn


    Dec 27, 2002
    Location Location Location
    I don't care about the power savings because I don't think it's significant, but faster is better.
  5. breakfastcrew macrumors 6502

    Jul 28, 2006
    12 hr battery life on a macbook would be nice.
  6. Grimace macrumors 68040


    Feb 17, 2003
    with Hamburglar.
    let the "should I wait for Penryn chips?" threads begin!! :rolleyes:
  7. Chundles macrumors G4


    Jul 4, 2005
    Man, this whole "wait till '08" philosophy of mine is really paying off. I'll get a second revision Penryn/Santa Rosa MacBook with all the goodies.

    Gonna destrrooooyyyy my iBook's performance in one fell swoop. Amazing just how good the progress from Intel is - remember the good ol' days of "OMG, 100MHz faster G4s coming soon" rumours.

    Now we know what's coming and roughly when and we know the benefits of the new chips are going to make them worth the upgrade price. Even going from a 1.2GHz G4 to a 1.67GHz G4 isn't all that much but going from a 1.2GHz G4 to a 2+ GHz Penryn-based Core 2 Duo for basically the same price as I paid for this iBook is simply amazing.
  8. tvguru macrumors 6502

    Apr 29, 2005
    Kenora, ON Canada
    Well, should I? :D :p
  9. samh004 macrumors 68020


    Mar 1, 2004
    Why does that mean Apple is already testing, couldn't it just mean that the architecture isn't radically different so it works on existing versions of OS X. It could just be Intel running OS X.

    Yes... that's going to happen :p

    I'm never sure what I should be doing. On the one hand I'd love an intel-mac now, or the next revision, or the revision after that with all those other new rumored goodies; on the other hand my PB is working fine for what I do, it's not stressed and there really isn't a reason to upgrade.

    I've been saying I'm going to upgrade for 2 years. Another year couldn't hurt, right ?
  10. ibook30 macrumors 6502a


    Jun 4, 2005
    2,000 light years from home

    I hope the same!
    It seems a bit heavey handed to herald this as the most significant advancement in four decades, can anyone explain how important 45 nm design will be?

    Edit : Answer :

  11. Chundles macrumors G4


    Jul 4, 2005
    I'm not sure it's the physical 45nm design but the new materials they're using in creating the chips. The way they've manufactured the stuff could mean advances once thought impossible will now come easily.
  12. DTphonehome macrumors 68000

    Apr 4, 2003
    The main reason it's such a big breakthrough is that the materials used as insulators have been basically unchanged in 40 years. That's why there was a theoretical limit to the speed you could squeeze out of a chip by reducing the size of the transistors. With this breakthrough, a totally new type of insulator has been developed which can allow far smaller processes (45nm and beyond), which were unfeasable with the previous type of insulator.
  13. MauiMac macrumors member


    Feb 2, 2006
  14. Chundles macrumors G4


    Jul 4, 2005
    All of them eventually.

    The MacBook/MacBook Pro and most likely the iMac and Mac mini will use the mobile (Penryn) versions of this chip, the Mac Pro will likely use the quad core server versions of the processor.

    Although, with the cooler construction it's possible the iMac may get the desktop dual core version to separate it more from the mini.
  15. mahonmeister macrumors 6502

    Jun 9, 2006
    Redlands, CA
    I hope Apple adopts them as soon as they come out late this year. The delay of the C2D was really ridiculous.

    Desktop processor in an iMac would be sweet. That's one of the reasons I'm not interested in the iMac lineup right now. You could get so much more power at a cheaper price with a desktop processor.
  16. twoodcc macrumors P6


    Feb 3, 2005
    Right side of wrong
    now that's a safe bet ;)
  17. obeygiant macrumors 68040


    Jan 14, 2002
    totally cool
    smaller, faster, smaller, faster. This is great and exciting news, but isn't this trend supposed to be leveling off? I cant wait to see a mac ten years out.
  18. MacNut macrumors Core


    Jan 4, 2002
    It would be nice if they can improve battery life in the laptops with these new chips.
  19. phillipjfry macrumors 6502a


    Dec 12, 2006
    Peace in Plainfield
    My system, if I time my purchases just right :)
  20. whatever macrumors 6502a

    Dec 12, 2001
    South of Boston, MA
    Powerbook G5 Upgrade for $1.99

    So does that mean that Apple will be releasing a G5 Powerbook Upgrade, sporting these new Intel CPUs, next Tuesday and only charge us a $1.99 upgrade fee!

    God I hope they also ship these as a mini-Tower, because you know without a mini-Tower enclosure, Apple as nothing!

  21. jamdr macrumors 6502a


    Jul 20, 2003
    Bay Area
    Does anyone know if there is an updated chip Apple could use in their laptops before the end of the year? Are we going to have to wait a whole year before updated laptops are available?
  22. MacNut macrumors Core


    Jan 4, 2002
    Im sure they will see a speed bump just not the 45nm chips.
  23. Chundles macrumors G4


    Jul 4, 2005
    My money's on an updated MacBook/MacBook Pro/iMac in April with the Santa Rosa platform (no new processors but loads of improved other stuff), the Mac minis will get Napa-based Core 2 Duos around then and Leopard will be released with an all-64bit Mac lineup.

    Then at the end of the year we'll see Penryn-based processors go into the Macs one at a time.
  24. sluthy macrumors regular

    May 13, 2002
    Bundaberg, Qld. Australia
    #24 current MBP, buy current competing ASUS or Dell laptop, wait until LED screens debut (April apparently), or wait until Christmas for Perryn? Or wait until solid state HDDs are feasible? Or wait until next decade for holographic storage? :D
  25. hokullani macrumors member

    Mar 19, 2006
    Are these chips smaller in size than the Core 2 Duo, because if they are then this sounds like a perfect chip for the ultra portable mac, less power consumption and small size would fit perfectly in the ultraportable.

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