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Intel Demos 45nm Penryn Processors, Due by end of 2007

sluthy said:
Hmm...buy current MBP, buy current competing ASUS or Dell laptop, wait until LED screens debut (April apparently), or wait until Christmas for Perryn? Or wait until solid state HDDs are feasible? Or wait until next decade for holographic storage? :D
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Penryn and SSD is still a while away, IMO. If I were buying now, I would wait for LED screens, preloaded Leopard and iLife 07. When they add the LED screens, I'll bet you'll see a RAM bump, HD bump, graphics card bump, screen rez bump (for Leopard), and a SuperDrive bump. IMHO, of course.
 
Chundles said:
My money's on an updated MacBook/MacBook Pro/iMac in April with the Santa Rosa platform (no new processors but loads of improved other stuff), the Mac minis will get Napa-based Core 2 Duos around then and Leopard will be released with an all-64bit Mac lineup.
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Now that might be a worthwhile reason for a delay in Leopard's release. While a slow and difficult development may be the real reason for a few extra months of testing, if Apple can roll out a new fleet of 64-bit, 802.11n packing Macs, and push out their new OS just in time for the massive iPhone marketing push...

Things might be riding pretty high by the time WWDC rolls around.
 
Epicurus said:
Now that might be a worthwhile reason for a delay in Leopard's release. While a slow and difficult development may be the real reason for a few extra months of testing, if Apple can roll out a new fleet of 64-bit, 802.11n packing Macs, and push out their new OS just in time for the massive iPhone marketing push...

Things might be riding pretty high by the time WWDC rolls around.
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Most of the current machines are already 64bit/802.11n in hardware -- they just need the software :)
 
Epicurus said:
Now that might be a worthwhile reason for a delay in Leopard's release. While a slow and difficult development may be the real reason for a few extra months of testing, if Apple can roll out a new fleet of 64-bit, 802.11n packing Macs, and push out their new OS just in time for the massive iPhone marketing push...

Things might be riding pretty high by the time WWDC rolls around.
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What delay in Leopard's release? No shipping date has been announced and Apple have only committed to "Spring (autumn for me) 2007" which goes till June.

Have you heard something?
 
DTphonehome said:
Penryn and SSD is still a while away, IMO. If I were buying now, I would wait for LED screens, preloaded Leopard and iLife 07. When they add the LED screens, I'll bet you'll see a RAM bump, HD bump, graphics card bump, screen rez bump (for Leopard), and a SuperDrive bump. IMHO, of course.
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Sounds a little optimistic to me, LED screens should cost a fair bit more. But I agree, wait till leopard is out to buy. The bumps are rarely worth waiting for, though LED would be a big bump (yay low power) that would make sense- but that also means that you don't know that your wait will be fruitful.
 
dontmatter said:
hafnium? How much of that is there on earth/how easy is it to mine? I hope the mining of it isn't a major environmental nightmare like so many metals. I wonder if this will change the market for hafnium seriously.

other than that, yay 45 nm!
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Well, hafnium is used in nuclear reactor control rods, so I think there will at least be competition for it. As to how much exists in the crust, it's about as common as uranium or tin (about 5 ppm). It's not easy to produce, since it's always bound with zirconium in nature, and requires a cascaded fractional crystallization process to purify.
 
I wouldn't call it waiting for Penryn, but if we could see Apple's lineup featuring these chips by either year end or MWSF 08, instead of buying a 24" iMac when Leopard gets released and keeping that 3 years, I may get a used 20" Core Duo or a refurb and use that for a year or less.
 
Why the fuss

I'm glad to see that the 45nm are coming sooner rather than later, but I'm not sure why it's getting all the press time. Didn't we know at least several months ago that 45 nm processors were coming?
 
Abstract said:
I don't care about the power savings because I don't think it's significant, but faster is better.
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I know there's a population difference, but the US wastes more power through in efficiency than Japan uses to power everything. Maybe more efficient or power saving chips could help stop the world going completely balls up.
 
Ahh... the waiting game never ends...

"i'll wait for ______ then i will get a Mac." then
"actually, i'll wait for ______ then i will get a Mac." and so on...
 
5 stars out of 2

gauchogolfer said:
.....since it's always bound with zirconium in nature, and requires a cascaded fractional crystallization process to purify.
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That was the best thing I've ever read on mac rumors. not only does it "sound" like butter as I'm reading it dripping off a hot bisquit, the guy probably knows what hes talking about....

I hearby present the Egon-Jaw-Dropping-Jargon-Award to: gauchogolfer

d8fdb623-c3ef-41ea-ab42-cb6105a1b0bf
 
jamdr said:
Does anyone know if there is an updated chip Apple could use in their laptops before the end of the year? Are we going to have to wait a whole year before updated laptops are available?
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Seems reasonable but given the Core 2 Duo delays last year for the MacBook Pro I wouldn't bet on seeing these processors in a Mac until just before the holiday season and that's assuming that Intel's launch projections are correct.
 
Mmmm..... Penryn!

This is hot stuff. That TGDaily article cited at the top of the thread painted a pretty exciting picture. I didn't know that current Conroe's were already running at speeds up to 4GHz in Intel's labs (!!!)... and to think that Penryn will only be faster (and more power efficient) than Conroe - combined with fuel cell technology, solid state storage and LED screens, I bet we will see some smokin' portables on the market in the near future.... lighter, faster, with longer battery life and that sexy 'new computer smell' that can only come from Penryn.

I love the smell of hafnium in the morning :D
 
Intel has really been pushing CPU and chipset releases more than ever, I wonder if they are trying to get a jump on AMD :confused:
 
From the Anand article:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2915&p=3

(Photo of chip engineers toasting each other.)

If you're concerned, that's sparkling cider in those glasses and not champagne; alcohol is not allowed on Intel's campus
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Eh? Most places cider is defintely a highly alcoholic drink. I'm from Cornwall in the UK and our cider gets you blind drunk in about 45 seconds. No wonder the intel team look so pleased in the photo - they've definitely pulled a fast one on the management!
 

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hokullani said:
Are these chips smaller in size than the Core 2 Duo, because if they are then this sounds like a perfect chip for the ultra portable mac, less power consumption and small size would fit perfectly in the ultraportable.
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It's not the size of the chip, it's how you use it...
:D
 
breakfastcrew said:
12 hr battery life on a macbook would be nice.
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Not with any real help from the processor.

It is not like the huge LCD display is using less power than the rest of the components in the laptop. That's probably why you see your remaining battery life increase dramatically as you turn your screen brightness down.
 
Chundles said:
My money's on an updated MacBook/MacBook Pro/iMac in April with the Santa Rosa platform (no new processors but loads of improved other stuff), the Mac minis will get Napa-based Core 2 Duos around then and Leopard will be released with an all-64bit Mac lineup.

Then at the end of the year we'll see Penryn-based processors go into the Macs one at a time.
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I'm looking to upgrade - what is the 'improved other stuff' you mentioned likely to be ?
 
Well, I don't Have to have a new 24" Imac right now, I just want one. My old Dell is still Kickin. Was going to wait until Leopard, but I'm not so sure now. With a smaller chip and less heat the Imac just might get a Desktop Processor, and with less heat with the Penryn it might just lose it's chin somewhat. Hopefully by then HD-dvd - Blueray might have a clear winner. It would be nice to have a HD burner in there. My Apple Gift Card for an Imac will just have to stay in the safe for a little bit longer.:)
 
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