The M1 MacBook Air is cheaper than the XPS and nearly as fast as the Pro. All TB4 means is that the Dell can connect to 2 external monitors or an 8K. Not that I trust integrated graphics on an 8K monitor (if you can even find one).
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Intel Downplays Apple's M1 Chip With 'Carefully Crafted' Benchmarks
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I think it’s time Apple pushes for false advertising (like what Dell, HP and the competition complained about when Apple launched the G5 as The worlds most powerful computer - like 6mths after it‘s launch).
I guess, then, you’ve heard it here first: Microsoft is, indeed, working on an M1 competitor.
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Agreed. The target for this campaign isn’t so much Apple (who has no incentive to switch back to Intel or delay its transition) but more PC OEMs and Microsoft. Intel needs to convince them that they have turned the corner and that things will improve once they get to 7nm and beyond.
Tiger Lake does seem like a major improvement. With the 10th Gen customers had to choose between improved GPU and energy performance (Ice Lake) and improved CPU performance (Comet Lake). Tiger Lake offers both.
Apple should just post a reply. "Thank you for pointing out some of these random weaknesses. We will make sure you have no asses left to be whooped in the next release."
Let's remember here that this is specifically about APPLE SILICON; not ARM. ARM is just an ISA and Apple uses a modded version of it with everything else being 100% Apple in house designs. You can't just throw any Cortex based SoC in a laptop and get M1 level performance. Also, remember macOS Big Sur is specifically written to Apple Silicon (well the version on the AS Macs is) so the level of hardware software compatibility is extremely high.
As to Apple when they went to Intel, they caught lightning in a bottle as they did it right when Intel turned the entire industry on its ear with the Core Duo (two Pentium-M cores a.k.a Dothan) and at that time yes Intel was the thoroughbred as the Core Duo and especially the Core2Duo (Conroe) were incredible chips.
The recent Intel "benchmarks" display was puerile and dumb. A much better approach would be to show they can play in the same PPW arena and do it with real world use cases.
As to Apple when they went to Intel, they caught lightning in a bottle as they did it right when Intel turned the entire industry on its ear with the Core Duo (two Pentium-M cores a.k.a Dothan) and at that time yes Intel was the thoroughbred as the Core Duo and especially the Core2Duo (Conroe) were incredible chips.
The recent Intel "benchmarks" display was puerile and dumb. A much better approach would be to show they can play in the same PPW arena and do it with real world use cases.
Yes. The “Wintel” alliance was always uneasy. Microsoft tried to expand when the PowerPC came out. A quarter century later Apple is back at it with their own designs based on ARM. This time seems different.
Ya mean spewing BS with lots of pretty pictures to see how many of the ill-informed will fall for it?
Agreed, but I would argue though that M1s aren’t “true” 8-core machines though, more comparable to 5-cores maybe, when tiger lake 8-cores arrive then it should be compared to the corresponding Mx one.
To me this actually just says they don't have an answer. What's even sadder is the M1 is Apple's entry level chip.
Those other 4 cores are actually pretty fast. Based on the op instruction/retire rate, looks more like they it’s equivalent to 6.5 of the high performance cores.
How good is that, comparing battery from a 720p Netflix stream ~ 800kbps to a potentially 4k Netflix stream anywhere between 6800 - 16,000 kbps
Crafty data at the Intel HQ
Crafty data at the Intel HQ
I agree with your point about target audience with Intel.
Apple has definitely has created a good bit of distance from Intel with the M1. Hopefully, the divide will grow into a vast chasm. If Apple can keep their base models in ranch like the Air, they have a good possibility of picking up more market share. And if Windows gets on board with creating a native OS version, that would be another nail in Intel’s coffin, in my opinion.
This story is really about damage control. That is all. It doesn’t matter if its true or not, so long has there is public perception that it is. Intel is leveraging their long established history will smooth over this PR mess that has been created from them being caught in the proverbial wind.
True. That's a smarter marketing. But imo the ego in tech companies is extremely high that the management are prone to things like this just to prove their ego.
The very first iPad was much snappier than a $600-$700 laptop (at that time). My wife had me sell her laptop the moment she got her ipad.
You all know the minute after Apple had their event for the M1 chip, Intel was on the horn calling for an immediate exec committee meeting. Just like when Apple released the iPhone and all the mobile manufacturers were tearing into their product design teams on how they could be so inept. Intel needs to first start with AMD before they can even compete with Apple moving forward.
This reeks a bit of desperation from Intel, mismatched hardware, no mention if the software is optimized for ARM or Intel. I guess Intel expects Apple to wait for Intel to catch up before releasing even more powerful and optimized CPUs/Silicone. Also no mention of fan noise and how much power these mismatched Intel CPUs are using.
Yeah, I do hope Intel can innovate again and create some compelling products as it improves the entire tech industry, but after a lost decade by Intel, I wouldn't bet on it.
Yeah, I do hope Intel can innovate again and create some compelling products as it improves the entire tech industry, but after a lost decade by Intel, I wouldn't bet on it.
There should be a new benchmark. Let me suggest:
How long it takes to roast your genitals when you’re running Premiere on your lap.
How many sperm did you kill doing those Blender renders on your lap.
I think Intel will win. Your genitals will be grilled to a crisp and your sperm will be baked to death.
How long it takes to roast your genitals when you’re running Premiere on your lap.
How many sperm did you kill doing those Blender renders on your lap.
I think Intel will win. Your genitals will be grilled to a crisp and your sperm will be baked to death.
Even if it was fast M1 can only run a handful of software which Intel makes MacBook’s the best laptop in this planet to run Windows and OSX natively.
M1 can run almost anything Intel laptops can run, so not sure what you are trying to say.
