Legacy said:
Apart from that SD I think and hope you are close to the mark...I can convert so many more people with an entry level machine like that in my arsenal.....
11 and counting.. 12 when my MBP arrives and I seel my PB to a current M$ user.
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Intel iBook Processor Speculation
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Apart from that SD I think and hope you are close to the mark...I can convert so many more people with an entry level machine like that in my arsenal.....
11 and counting.. 12 when my MBP arrives and I seel my PB to a current M$ user.
jacobj said:
No the superdrive I think will defo feature in the top range Express version because you can pick up a PC notebook with DVD-RW for £500 now, but obviously the huge savings on the Celeron and Int Graphics will allow for provisions of the Superdrive...I also think the Express will not feature Airport or Bluetooth which is another cost cutting area, along with 4:3 format screens capped at 1024x768/1280x960 resolution...
Everyone here seems to think that the next product in the pipeline is the ibook replacement. Isn't this wishful thinking? Don't you think that Apple will first come out with a smaller MBP, whether that is 12 or 13 inch? The 12" PB hasn't been updated in a VERY long time. Remember when the 15 and 17" models got the last speed and screen upgrade? Well, the 12" model got nothing.
My university store is now listing the 12" PB as "While supplies last"...
My university store is now listing the 12" PB as "While supplies last"...
- 13.3"
- 1.67 Intel Core Duo
- 512 667 DDR2 RAM (expandable to 1.5GB)
- 40 GB HDD (60 GB, 80GB and 100GB BTO option)
- Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 900 or Intel® Extreme Graphics 2 (64MB or 128 MB)
- Intel® High Definition Audio (maybe optical out)
- Apple Airport Extreme
- Combo Drive (SuperDrive BTO)
- Bluetooth
- Frontrow
- iSight
- And of course Mac OSX and iLife '06
For probably the USD$1000 to USD$1300 mark.
Well that's my $0.02 of what I think we will be seeing for the iBook (or MacBook) in the coming months.
- 1.67 Intel Core Duo
- 512 667 DDR2 RAM (expandable to 1.5GB)
- 40 GB HDD (60 GB, 80GB and 100GB BTO option)
- Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 900 or Intel® Extreme Graphics 2 (64MB or 128 MB)
- Intel® High Definition Audio (maybe optical out)
- Apple Airport Extreme
- Combo Drive (SuperDrive BTO)
- Bluetooth
- Frontrow
- iSight
- And of course Mac OSX and iLife '06
For probably the USD$1000 to USD$1300 mark.
Well that's my $0.02 of what I think we will be seeing for the iBook (or MacBook) in the coming months.
i'd really like to see iBook chips end up being equal to iMac, so MacBook would have to update to a whole new chip. I like they days when iBook was a ''iMac to go'' now its like a Mac Mini with a built in screen
$999 for 64 MB VRAM and Combo Drive, $1299 for 128 MB Intel Extreme Graphics 2 and SuperDrive, I think you've nailed it!ezekielrage_99 said:
jacobj said:
But remember rosetta need somes power until we all get native Intel software.
Duo would kind of make sense since Apple did apperently buy up a whole heap of Intel Duo 1.67GHz and they aren't putting them in the MacBook Pros or iMac so where do you think the logical place would be to put them?
jacobj said:
I thought Apple would increase the price of the iMacs when the Intel iMacs were released however the price stayed the same. I don't think we will see any real big changes with the iBook (MacBook?) when the Intel version is releases however I do agree we will see more BTO options than previous lines of iBooks.
I think from a marketing POV Apple really needs to push the Intel switch as a real positive and they can do it on percieved speed (e.g. putting faster chips inside), so that is using the Core Duo, Xeon and Pentium D whilest staying clear for the time being of Celeron and the other lowbie CPUs.
Percieved advantages in any field is better than actual advantage. BHP Biliton, Silicon Graphics, Sony, discreet and Subway to name just a few do this tactic time and time again to ensure people will buy/invest into the companies ventures.
Klut said:I hope they realese it soon, I could really need one
Me too, I hope they release a new Intel iBook (MacBook) soon because I'm in need of a new Notebook.
Intel Duo Vs G5
I feel that apple is holding back some information on the Intel chips, they were only 2 years ago shouting that the G5 was a 64 bit chip and that this means twice as fast as 32 bit chips at the same clock speed, so now they are not saying if the Intel chips are 32 or 64, most likely they are 32 bit and that means a step back in performance, yes you can have 2 x 32 bit cores on a chip but that does not make it a 64 bit chip, All of Apple's programme developers made there apps 64 bit for no reason by that assumption, amd have a dual core 64 out, why did apple not go with amd? seems apple have backed the wrong chip maker again.
Dont get me wrong i love apple macs, and hate pc's but it would have been better this way.
Powermac to stick with IBM G5 quads and move to the G6 for true 64 bit power.
Mac Book Pro to use the AMD 64 Core Duo chips
Imac to use AMD 64 Core Duo chips
Mac Book to use Intel Core Duo
And for apple to finally release a OSX for a generic PC, stop all this microsoft windows domination.
Just my thoughts.
MacManUK
I feel that apple is holding back some information on the Intel chips, they were only 2 years ago shouting that the G5 was a 64 bit chip and that this means twice as fast as 32 bit chips at the same clock speed, so now they are not saying if the Intel chips are 32 or 64, most likely they are 32 bit and that means a step back in performance, yes you can have 2 x 32 bit cores on a chip but that does not make it a 64 bit chip, All of Apple's programme developers made there apps 64 bit for no reason by that assumption, amd have a dual core 64 out, why did apple not go with amd? seems apple have backed the wrong chip maker again.
Dont get me wrong i love apple macs, and hate pc's but it would have been better this way.
Powermac to stick with IBM G5 quads and move to the G6 for true 64 bit power.
Mac Book Pro to use the AMD 64 Core Duo chips
Imac to use AMD 64 Core Duo chips
Mac Book to use Intel Core Duo
And for apple to finally release a OSX for a generic PC, stop all this microsoft windows domination.
Just my thoughts.
MacManUK
64 bit processing doesn't in any way mean twice as fast performance as 32 bit. For 32, 16 and 8 bit processing, it's equally fast. For 64 bit processing it's at least twice as fast, usually more. For Altivec it doesn't matter. There are very, very few consumer oriented applications that use 64 bit integer processing extensively and at the same time can't use Altivec. Some scientific or cryptographic programs can benefit.
The most noticable effect of 64 bit mode is that an application can adress more than 2GB of memory. This doesn't affect many regular users since few have more than 2GB physical memory, especially in laptops.
In short. 64 bit isn't twice as fast. The MacBooks would hardly benefit at all from having a 64 bit processor.
The most noticable effect of 64 bit mode is that an application can adress more than 2GB of memory. This doesn't affect many regular users since few have more than 2GB physical memory, especially in laptops.
In short. 64 bit isn't twice as fast. The MacBooks would hardly benefit at all from having a 64 bit processor.
~Shard~ said:Personally, I think that is less likely, but I of course wouldn't rule it out. My feeling though is that Apple is going to use the Core Solo for something, and the Mac mini is the most logical choice. We'll find out in a month or 2 regardless....
I tend to agree with you, the Mini looks destined for a solo. I guess I also feel like the iBook may be solo-bound, although maybe the bigger model will have the 1.67 Duo Low.
As Shard says, we'll find out soon enough now
bugfaceuk said:
At least with the slight speed bumps to the MacBook Pros, this would make the use of Core Duos in the iBooks a bit more likely - although I still wouldn't bet money on it playing out that way.
~Shard~ said:
Does feel like a little game of russian roulette... one of the chambers contains a duo, the rest contain solos.... spin the barrell...
I must admit I also very very interested to know what GPU is going to be sitting in there... I guess the guys above are probably right with the Intel Extreeme*/etc but I would like to see something bigger and better in the larger MacBook NonPro.
Of course the "room" could have been being made for the 13.3/12' MBP's rather than the MBNP's.
*ly disappointing performance