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Intel iBook Processor Speculation

I'll join the Core Solo group for the iBook...

...either that, or they'll have to introduce another laptop line for the under 1000 dollar range

...honestly, has anyone seen a laptop with the Duo processor for under 1000 dollars? If Dell's not offering one, there's no way Apple will...
 
They could make one version of the MacBook with 1,66 ghz dual core for 1500$, It would be fair prize to me... And that's what a pc laptop costs in norway..

Apple should try to be the best on the marked, and also not too expensive.
 
AvSRoCkCO1067 said:
I'll join the Core Solo group for the iBook...

...either that, or they'll have to introduce another laptop line for the under 1000 dollar range

...honestly, has anyone seen a laptop with the Duo processor for under 1000 dollars? If Dell's not offering one, there's no way Apple will...
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As I've said before, if Apple can't introduce a Duo for under $1000, it can't introduce a Solo for that price either, since the difference in the cost of the processors is negligible for Apple.
 
I just want to get an iBook with a duo so I can wait until MBPs have Merom, definitely by Q2 2007. An iBook solo would kill my dreams. Please read this, Steve...

EDIT: also waiting for Leopard :)
 
AvSRoCkCO1067 said:
I'll join the Core Solo group for the iBook...

...either that, or they'll have to introduce another laptop line for the under 1000 dollar range

...honestly, has anyone seen a laptop with the Duo processor for under 1000 dollars? If Dell's not offering one, there's no way Apple will...
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Acer has an Intel Duo for the sub USD$1400, it was released a couple of days ago.

http://osnews.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=16310448/

The specs on it aren't too bad either, well for a Windows Notebook;)
 
MacinDoc said:
As I've said before, if Apple can't introduce a Duo for under $1000, it can't introduce a Solo for that price either, since the difference in the cost of the processors is negligible for Apple.
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Fantastic point; your probably right...I wonder, then, which processor they'll use if they cannot use Core Duo or Core Solo.

By the way, maybe the upper level iBook could be Core Solo (in the 1300 dollar range)...
 
ezekielrage_99 said:
Acer has an Intel Duo for the sub USD$1400, it was released a couple of days ago.

http://osnews.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=16310448/

The specs on it aren't too bad either, well for a Windows Notebook;)
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Exactly; Acer is relatively affordable (when compared to Apples, anyway :p) so I'm thinking that there's no way Apple will release a 999 dollar laptop with the Core Duo. And, as an above poster brightly noted, because the Core Solo is only 30 bucks less than the Core Duo, they probably won't be using a Solo either...which leaves us with Dothan processors...

...Oh, and there's no way the Mini will use the Core Solo and remain 500 dollars. No way at all...:(
 
They could proable introduce a duo in an iBook but I dont think they will. They'll prolly stick a solo in. Figure Apple wants to make atleast $300 on an iBook, that leaves them with $700 to build the computer.


Core Duo

T2300 (2M L2 cache 1.66 GHz 667 MHz FSB) w/ Intel 945 PM Chipset and Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG: $306
RAM $20 per 256mb (from iSuppli's intel iMac teardown): $40 for 512mb
ATI X1600 is $30(iSuppli) so an X1300 should run between $15-$20
A 60gb Fujitsu 4200rpm laptop HD is $85, so Apple prolly pays about half: $45
Total:$411 that leaves $289 for screen, optical drive, case, software, accesories, etc.


Core Solo

Intel T1300 (2M L2 cache 1.66 GHz 667 MHz FSB) w/ Intel 945 PM Chipset and Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG: $274
RAM $20 per 256mb (from iSuppli's intel iMac teardown): $40 for 512mb
ATI X1600 is $30(iSuppli) so an X1300 should run between $15-$20
A 60gb Fujitsu 4200rpm laptop HD is $85, so Apple prolly pays about half: $45
Total:$379 that leaves $321 for screen, optical drive, case, software, accesories, etc.


Pentium M

730 (2M L2 cache 1.60B GHz 533 MHz FSB) w/ Intel 915 PM Chipset and Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG: $271
RAM $20 per 256mb (from iSuppli's intel iMac teardown): $40 for 512mb
ATI X1600 is $30(iSuppli) so an X1300 should run between $15-$20
A 60gb Fujitsu 4200rpm laptop HD is $85, so Apple prolly pays about half: $45
Total:$376 that leaves $324 for screen, optical drive, case, software, accesories, etc.



As you can see a Pentium M centrino costs almost the same as a Core Solo centrino, hmm makes sense considering its almost the same thing. I think both the Core Solo and Duo are possible, but I doubt(unless Apple eliminates the Powerbook 12inch) that we'll see a Core Duo iBook. The figures I came up with are mostly from intels website and iSuppli's iBook teardown, with the exception of a few guestimates on the hard drive cost and GPU cost. I hope to see a Solo atleast in the iBook and dedicated graphics, so long as they have those 2 things I will be happy.
 
i have spent months leaning toward some single processor ibook, but really the core duo is not overly expensive and apple could introduce an ibook with the duo in it...but maybe not exactly at $999 dollars to start
 
I think the iBook will be announced with Celeron M and with the new not so sucky Intel integrated graphics. And I think it will be $899 or less.
 
Mitthrawnuruodo said:
Next Tuesday, of course... :rolleyes:
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Dere bergensere :p

**

Anyways, why do you people keep calling it iBook, isn't it going to be called MacBook?
 
Klut said:
Anyways, why do you people keep calling it iBook, isn't it going to be called MacBook?
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Yeah, but we don't know that for sure yet (there's still that 1% uncertainty :p ;)) and plus, there are always the purists out there who will refuse to accept the new name regardless.
 
Aha, I understand.. I still think it will be called a MacBook, but Apple is still pretty good at surprises eh?
 
New Predictions!

Klut said:
Aha, I understand.. I still think it will be called a MacBook, but Apple is still pretty good at surprises eh?
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I've just thought of something quite different to what I posted previously and that is:

1. No more PowerBook 12" MacBook Pro replacement:
2. Based on economics a raise in price, if Duo is to be used, making a bridge for users who would have wanted the Pro, but just cant afford it yet:

Two MacBook's may debut:

MacBook 13.3" $1299/£829

1.67GHz Intel Core Duo Processor
512MB DDR-2 memory (1.5GB Max)
13.3-inch TFT Display
1280x760 resolution
Ati Radeon X1300
64Mb Dedicated video memory
60GB Ultra ATA hard drive
SuperDrive (DVD-RW/CD-RW)
Built-in AirPort Extreme
Built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
Built-in iSight Express
Front Row with Apple Remote
iSight Express Built-in (640x480 resolution)
Scrolling Trackpad
Sudden Motion Sensor

MacBook 15.2" $1499/£1099

1.67GHz Intel Core Duo Processor
512MB DDR-2 memory (1.5GB Max)
15.2-inch TFT Display
1440x900 resolution
Ati Radeon X1300
128Mb Dedicated video memory
80GB Ultra ATA hard drive
SuperDrive (DVD-RW/CD-RW)
Built-in AirPort Extreme
Built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
Built-in iSight Express (640x480 resolution)
Front Row with Apple Remote
iSight Express Built-in
Scrolling Trackpad
Sudden Motion Sensor

This would leave an enourmous gap for cheap consumers who wish to have a portable Mac for lower prices. There are two ways to treat this issue. Either introduce a cheaper model or outcast that consumer audience altogether. Even if Merom debut's later this year, the Yonah will not become as cheap as the G4 for the considerable future. This means we must expect to see an Apple notebook in the future with specs that have:


Intel Celeron M Processor (Yonah variant) 1.46/1.6Ghz
1MB L2 cache
512MB DDR-2 memory
12.1/14" Conventional TFT Displays
1024x768/1280x960 resolution
Intel Integrated Graphics Chipset
Up to 128MB shared video memory
40/60GB Ultra ATA hard drive
Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)/SuperDrive (DVD-RW/CD-RW)
Optional AirPort Extreme
Optional Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
Scrolling Trackpad
Sudden Motion Sensor

$799/£529 and $999/£699
 
AvSRoCkCO1067 said:
Fantastic point; your probably right...I wonder, then, which processor they'll use if they cannot use Core Duo or Core Solo.
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Google for "Intel Price List". Go through their price list and check which processors are significantly cheaper than Core Duo, like under $100.
 
AvSRoCkCO1067 said:
Exactly; Acer is relatively affordable (when compared to Apples, anyway :p) so I'm thinking that there's no way Apple will release a 999 dollar laptop with the Core Duo. And, as an above poster brightly noted, because the Core Solo is only 30 bucks less than the Core Duo, they probably won't be using a Solo either...which leaves us with Dothan processors...

...Oh, and there's no way the Mini will use the Core Solo and remain 500 dollars. No way at all...:(
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That could bring out an Intel Core Duo in the iBooks if Apple bought a whole heap of the Duos at a very cheap rate and it they lower the hardware specs (e.g. Intel Intergrated Extreme Graphics, etc).

It could be very possible they bring out a Duo in the new iBooks.
 
im really looking forward to getting my mac laptop this summer....i hope this new ibook is released by then. And for an affordable price - either the same or cheaper than they are now. I would love for them to sell it for $899....but that's probably not gonna happen...I would like for it to be widescreen and available in silver or black (but white is cool too). As long as it's better than it is now I'll be happy.
 
Mac Mini Perspective

With the launch of the New Mac Mini, which was till now effectively a headless iBook, I think the accurace of our speculation as to the specs of the new MacBook can be strengthened. A few things can be read from the MacMini update:

1. Apple will not be using anything less than Intel Core processors, thats a Solo or Duo. So no Pentium M and no Celeron guys.

2. Apple has for the first time, introducted an integrated graphics solution which has modest performance yet marks a tremendous philosophical move with economic benefits for the company which once frowned upon integrated solutions.

3. The MacMini has received a host of new features including Front Row with Bonjour and other goodies. This marks a more feature based rather than purely geeky spec based approach adopted by Apple for its consumer line.

With these in mind I would now wish to bring this thread to life again and predict the following:

Two MacBook models with a price increase at $1099/1399

13.3" MacBook $1099/£799

Intel Core Solo 1.5Ghz Processor w/ 2MB Cache
512Mb DDR-2 Memory on a 667Mhz Bus (2x 256Mb)
60Gb 5400rpm Hard Drive
Intel Integrated Graphics GMA 950
Airport and Bluetooth 2.0 Standard Features
Audio in/out with 5.1 Surround Sound
MagSafe
Combi Drive (CD-RW/DVD-R)
FrontRow with Apple Remote
iSight built-in

15.2" MacBook $1399/£999

Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz Processor w/ 2MB Cache
512Mb DDR-2 Memory on a 667Mhz Bus (2x256Mb)
80Gb 5400rpm Hard Drive
Intel Integrated Graphics GMA 950
Airport and Bluetooth 2.0 Standard Features
MagSafe
Audio in/out with 5.1 Surround Sound
Superdrive (CD-RW/DVD-R)
FrontRow with Apple Remote
iSight built-in
 
No way there will be a 15-inch consumer MacBook.

There will be 2 13-inch models.

One will have Core Solo, for probably $1099 (Maybe $999).

The second will have Core Duo, for $1299.

JMHO. :)
 
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