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Rather than fixing their own management problem, they double down on that. If Intel dies today, it’s on the CEO and the entire Board’s fault. Reminds me of why Commodore could no longer remain relevant to the market after Commodore 64. Management issue.

I feel sorry for those engineers working for Intel at this point. Wish they have a better post-Intel career.
 
Also how does this look to Apple when they are still using Intel processors (iMac and Mac Pro still use them)? Intel is literally trash talking one of their vendors now. Does not look good.
 
LMAO any other day of the year people say Macs are insignificant because they have such a tiny marketshare that nobody cares about them. Suddenly they were a massive chunk to Intel's business? 😂
Someone else can run the real numbers - probably closer to 10-15% of consumer sales taking the global Mac/PC percentages into account.

Regardless, it's not an insignificant amount.
 
Also how does this look to Apple when they are still using Intel processors (iMac and Mac Pro still use them)? Intel is literally trash talking one of their vendors now. Does not look good.
Well I guess it's no different than Samsung doing it. Apple being a current Samsung customer gets nasty ads by $ammy targeted at them. These companies won't win because what they are doing is giving Apple much more exposure and saying, "Apple's new M1 is so amazing that we have no way to build anything close to it so we will bash them in ads".
 
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The M1 Chip is a strong CPU that will destroy Intel by speed, battery, and intelligence. It has as much cores as Intel too.
Even if you were right about the CPU merits, this would not force the companies to adopt Macs. Many (most?) customers need Windows or Linux. So far it does not look like Apple is going to start celling their CPUs to other computer vendors.
 
Even if you were right about the CPU merits, this would not force the companies to adopt Macs. Many (most?) customers need Windows or Linux. So far it does not look like Apple is going to start celling their CPUs to other computer vendors.
Ah well apparently Intel disagrees with you because they are scared to death that Apple's forthcoming Macs will be the center of the next generation of computing.
 
The M1 is a first effort, and entry-level one at that. But if that’s how desperate Intel wants to come off, we can use this model for all sorts of comparisons...

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Their are getting smoked by PC Gamers whom build their own computers are preferring AMD processors because of the many cores and low power consumption! Now Apple went to their own processors Intel is loosing two core buyer groups! If you own Intel stock, sell it before it goes bust!
While the performance is better, I would still suggest people get Intel processors. AMD is currently suffering with some USB issues. Compatibility and support on AMD is still shaky. If you need to use your system for work or reliably, sometimes AMD has some gotchas.
 
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Intel just makes me laugh with these desperate ads.

However they make me angry with how bad their speed and integrated graphics are. Just sold my old 2014 PC, then after I sell the last Intel Mac, x86 never again. Welcome, M1.
 


As part of its barrage of attacks against M1 Macs, Intel this week launched a "PC vs. Mac" website that's biased heavily in favor of PC machines that are equipped with Intel chips and that makes questionable claims about Apple's M1 Mac lineup.

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Intel's website says that Apple's M1 Mac benchmarks don't "translate to real-world usage" and that when compared to PCs with 11th-Generation Intel chips, M1 MacBook features "just don't stack up."

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Intel positions PCs as more "personalized" to fit a user's "specific hardware and software needs," while the M1 Macs offer "limited" device support, games, and creation applications. "The bottom line is a PC offers users a choice, something that users don't get with a Mac," reads the website.

PCs offer a "complete touch screen" instead of the "constrained Mac Touch Bar," along with "2 for 1 Form Factor options" while Apple makes customers pay for "multiple devices and gear." The website highlights specific software like AI-based content creation tools from Topaz Labs that are allegedly faster on 11th-generation Intel Core chips, and faster Chrome performance.Intel this week launched a major anti-Apple silicon ad campaign targeting the M1 Macs. A series of ads released on YouTube star former "I'm a Mac" actor Justin Long extolling the benefits of Intel-based PC machines.

Article Link: Intel Launches Heavily Biased 'PC vs. Mac' Comparison Website
It's ironic that they are not even focusing on one of the major advantages of x86, which is that so much professional, commercial, scientific, educational, and industrial applications will only run on x86 platforms. I know that the M1 will have x86 virtual machines available, but emulating an x86 through code translation is going to be clunky and slow.

But it is also true that Apple has neglected the Mac hardware other than the processor. Where are Apple Pencil capable 2 in 1 Macbooks (answer: Apple is fearful that such a machine would hurt iPad sales)? Where are the card readers and HDMI ports (supposedly they are coming soon). At least with an x86 Mac you can dual-boot and run Windows natively.
 
The funny part is, all of the things they advertised are features of the hardware OEMs themselves or Windows, not intel. Literally all that intel claimed can be done on an AMD Windows laptop. That's funny. So what's the point of intel? :D AMD should copy the same ad and simply said go AMD!
 
you still can't play elite games, run AutoCAD/ArcGIS/GPU-heavy applications worth a crap or create databases on an M1-insert-letter-here Mac
AutoCAD supports Mac: https://knowledge.autodesk.com/supp...oCAD-2021-including-Specialized-Toolsets.html

ArcGIS seems? to be able to support Mac (although I cannot get ANY of their pages to load to verify so GOOD software company there!)

GPU heavy applications is not specific.

Sometimes Dell workstations made for work cannot play elite games either. NVIDIA quadro is less performing that an RTX 3090 would be. And this has nothing to do with Intel. Try playing elite games on an Intel integrated graphics.
 
Ah well apparently Intel disagrees with you because they are scared to death that Apple's forthcoming Macs will be the center of the next generation of computing.
Did you read about this in some Intel documents or you are just spitballing?
I think @Maconplasma may be referring to Gelsinger's statement before he started at Intel: “We have to deliver better products to the PC ecosystem than any possible thing that a lifestyle company in Cupertino” makes, Gelsinger reportedly told Intel employees. Source: The Verge. This was just after the M1 release.
 
Also how does this look to Apple when they are still using Intel processors (iMac and Mac Pro still use them)? Intel is literally trash talking one of their vendors now. Does not look good.
Hopefully it will push the transition faster, and Apple encouraging developers to go Apple Silicon native more aggressively.
 
I think @Maconplasma may be referring to Gelsinger's statement before he started at Intel: “We have to deliver better products to the PC ecosystem than any possible thing that a lifestyle company in Cupertino” makes, Gelsinger reportedly told Intel employees. Source: The Verge. This was just after the M1 release.
We just didn't realize that their definition of "better products" is more ads. :D

I wish intel would spend the money on subsidizing the OEMs instead, giving a nice heavy discounts on intel laptops. In the end, people love good deals.

But no, let's just do ads.
 
I still love it how Windows is so messy. It can be running for months without issues, start it up one day and get NOTHING but problems, then it is completely fine for months later. Huh?! Nothing changed, so why was it acting up so horribly?

I never had this experience with macs. And I actually have had issues on Windows (even on Windows 10) where it just deleted its boot configuration randomly. I have had to use bootrec /FixMbr bootrec /FixBoot bootrec /ScanOs bootrec /RebuildBcd many times.
 
When it comes to ports, honestly, I just want to dump ALL non-USB-C ports and be done with it. Everything USB-C would be an ideal world, making life much easier overall. It is a great interface, Apple sees it as the future. They have been through this before. They had USB long before PCs did and people whined then. Give it a few years and let the USB-C revolution happen. It will, then we can ignore the rest of these old USB (and other) port.
Yeah I agree. Is there any reason why we need to keep DisplayPort and HDMI too? It can all just be USB-C connectors - even to our TVs.
 
On the behalf of the PC community, Intel doesn’t represent us. Use whatever computer gives you what you’re looking for. What a trash company
Yep completely agree. I have a custom built Windows PC (using Intel) as a gaming PC and working in Visual Studio. I have my Mac for everything else from graphics and video production. I have some Linux systems for a NAS box.
 
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