Intel Launches Heavily Biased 'PC vs. Mac' Comparison Website

[Unregistered 4U]

I’m out of the loop on a lot of this, but shouldn’t Intel be more worried about AMD than Apple?

Soo, I think I figured it out. Apple sells roughly 20 million Macs a year. Does AMD sell more than 20 million of their chips a year? Then, Intel is going after Apple because Apple’s going to jump to number 2 in a year and Intel wants to curtail that as much as possible. It’s a fairly lost cause because anyone using macOS and up for a new laptop (to do more facebooking and emailing on) will more than likely be getting another macOS system. So this MUST be about trying their darndest to stem the flow of folks that don’t currently own Macs.

It makes more sense than anything else… they’re not going after AMD because even if AMD has a banner year, AMD is still going to just be a shadow of Intel. Oh, and there’s probably a little of “If any of you guys are thinking about shipping non-Intel systems, we WILL run ads agains you!”

 

[Serban55]

REally..now Intel step down and be as childish as Samsung is ?!
I really thought at Intel everyone was mature and grown up..

 

[deevey]

Does Intel actually make a lot of $ from the small market share that Apple has vs all their other sales?

Around 10%-15% of their total consumer chip sales. And bear in mind Apple only ordered their higher priced Core and Xeons not cheap Celeron / Atom junk.

 

[Maximara]

Desperate move.

Especially as some of the claims are untrue.

Singular External Display Only: M1 Macs Able to Run Up to Six External Displays Using DisplayLink (November 24, 2020). This does work with the Air and Pro but there are limited to five external displays. And here I thought it was only Intel's early Pentium chip that couldn't count.

Limited Creation Applications: Xcode, Godot, Unity, gcc are limited?! Intel what are you smoking and it is legal?!

 

[Maximara]

Yikes. I don‘t know who is giving Intel such bad advice with these silly ads, but my guess it’s from the likes of professional Windows panderers like Paul Thurrot who has been in TWIT various times encouraging Intel to go after Apple with this shtick.
Dumb move regardless of where this desperation is coming from. Especially as Windows and Intel completely dominate the market and will likely continue to do for the foreseeable future as Windows and their chips run the corporate world and industry around the world.
Or perhaps they feel they are on the edge of a precipice and this is a cry for help.

To someone familiar with British English slang that is a riot. For those unfamiliar Twit means 'someone silly or stupid'. See Monty Python's 1970 Upper Class Twit of the Year.

Reminds me of a urban legend joke about the US auto makers. Chevrolet was puzzled why its Nova car wasn't saying well in Latin American countries - until somebody pointed out that "No va" means "No go" in Spanish.

 

[Maximara]

Try running Revit, 3DSMax, twin motion, Enscape, Lumion, Rhino, full Adobe Suite on the M1 [admittedly some here don’t work on macOS full stop].

Do they run on Windows for ARM?

 

[George Dawes]

You only attack what you fear

 

[Serban55]

Especially as some of the claims are untrue.

Singular External Display Only: M1 Macs Able to Run Up to Six External Displays Using DisplayLink (November 24, 2020). This does work with the Air and Pro but there are limited to five external displays. And here I thought it was only Intel's early Pentium chip that couldn't count.

Limited Creation Applications: Xcode, Godot, Unity, gcc are limited?! Intel what are you smoking and it is legal?!

remember "touch bar only". i thought Macbook air has no touchbar....Jesus Christ...i expected these lies from children these days in desperate move to make a point but this !??!
Thank God Apple remove this childish company named Intel

 

[08380728]

I wonder what is really behind these ads.

Don't know, but obviously none of the points Intel raised are going to change Apple's mind and go back to using Intel

Maybe Intel want to see some more Apple Silicon for them to copy.

Other possibilities on the the points Intel raised:
May give Apple the incentive to speed up the transition so as to cut Intel out of sales ASAP.
May give Apple incentive to add more ports and other functionality as per user expectations.
May give Apple incentive to target gaming markets in the future and other things that lead to Apple taking future sales from WinTel.

On thing is for sure, Apple are no longer dependent on Intel for anything that I can think of.
Apple bought Intels' Mobile Modem IP so they can fabricate their own modems in house without needing to rely on 3rd party suppliers, where as, of now only temporary.

Running Intel for the period was very beneficial to Apple in terms of many software apps that were previously WinTel only. Some of those developers bought their apps to macOS because then it was easier to port/develop on Intel than for PPC. Apple/macOS have more apps than the PPC era, they are locked in and will translate to ARM.

Keep it up Intel, I see everything you point out as only being beneficial to Apple in the long run.
It's like a monkey handing out free bananas ;-)

 

[Serban55]

I honestly am embarrassed for Intel with this awful marketing campaign. Marketing 101 is to never disparage your competitors and play off of your strengths. Intel taking this route is not only woefully misguided, it also makes them seem like a desperate little child begging for attention. They are a chip maker for God sakes, not a PC maker. Its one of the most comically bad marketing gaffes that has ever occurred.

 

[Honumaui]

Who cares

when you have to try to bash the competitor its because your product is not better you have to make theirs seem worse so yours seems better ?

If your product can not just stand on its own this is what you have to do

it is funny cause its like school kids bashing someone they are jealous of

also funny cause it shows they are freaking out and scared and are behind both apple and AMD they had their moment on top and its over

 

[08380728]

Also, the ”show desktop” button is the lower right corner of Windows 10 is something I sometimes miss on MacOS. One can always cmd/option-click the Finder in the dock, but it's a bit more fiddly...

Show the 'Desktop', whatever for?
No matter, that's a fairly backwards and limited way of using the filesystem!!!
Access the Desktop in the File Manager just like any other folder, because the only thing that comes to mind, (which is pointless anyway) in displaying the desktop, is to look at the picture.

I know Windows users often use the Desktop as a dumping ground, so displaying and managing files inside the desktop folder is best done in file manager even if it is that limited Windows POS Explorer that can't calculate folder sizes or let the user display the contents of more than one folder in the same window...lol super ancient OS in every way...nothing more than Windows 95 with faulty blow-J0b proof lipstick, after several deep throats, the clown face appears eh eh eh

 

[cult hero]

This is so lame. It’s just lame.

The PC is being supplanted by everything from mobile devices to game consoles to Macs. Wintel had a relative monopoly for longer than they deserved.

Limited? Guys, your flagship OS doesn’t even ship with zsh. Don’t tell me about limits when you ain’t UNIX.

 

[Maximara]

Comments like this are funny. I don't recall anyone saying this ever since Steve Jobs ran to Intel for better CPUs... what changed?

That was because intel was on the ball back then and it was Motorola who was messing up. Intel now is like Apple in the early 1990s - messing up all over the place. Few remember the Star Trek Project (1992-1993) which was an effort to run System 7 on an Intel PC.

 

[Reason077]

Shame on that turncoat Mac guy. I used to think he was cool, but now he sold out his beliefs for a pay check. Really disappointing and a poor role model.

Now, has anyone heard from PC guy lately?

 

[Maximara]

Because AMD chips are functionally the same as Intel’s and they have nothing that matters that outdoes AMD. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is just Intel executives desperately trying to show shareholders that they’re at least better at some minor things than a competitor.

If that is Intel's plan they must be thinking their shareholders are drooling clueless idiots. Any Intel shareholder that has been paying attention knows AMD is the real threat in the x86 space and be annoyed Intel is effectively wasting money that would go into R&D to deal with a company that at best has perhaps 10% of the computer marketshare.

 

[Reason077]

Few remember the Star Trek Project (1992-1993) which was an effort to run System 7 on an Intel PC.

It won’t be so long now before few remember Apple’s 14-year effort (2006-2020) to run macOS on Intel CPUs.

 

[Maximara]

it still runs windows though…

Windows for ARM runs on an Intel chip? Since when?

 

[Maximara]

Is it really pretty weak when these are bare bones entry level computers from Apple? Seriously I had a Mac Book Air and never used another monitor. What % of people buying M1s NEEDED 2 monitors? Those people that do continue to use Intel Macs and some may be waiting for more powerful M series chip in upcoming Macs.

These ads cater to 'I want expandability' crowd even if the majority people will never use that expandability.

 

[Darth Tulhu]

I think most, if not all, the PC assessments are fair.

But we truly use the Mac for what they don't address.

 

[Maximara]

It won’t be so long now before few remember Apple’s 14-year effort (2006-2020) to run macOS on Intel CPUs.

People seem to already be forgetting from most of Apple’s 14-year effort (2006-2020) to run macOS on Intel CPUs started going south when Intel produced chips (Skylink) that effectively blew goats.

 

[08380728]

While the performance is better, I would still suggest people get Intel processors. AMD is currently suffering with some USB issues. Compatibility and support on AMD is still shaky. If you need to use your system for work or reliably, sometimes AMD has some gotchas.

Been identified by AMD and they've issued new Firmware to resolve, few days ago.

 

[08380728]

I still love it how Windows is so messy. It can be running for months without issues, start it up one day and get NOTHING but problems, then it is completely fine for months later. Huh?! Nothing changed, so why was it acting up so horribly?

I never had this experience with macs. And I actually have had issues on Windows (even on Windows 10) where it just deleted its boot configuration randomly. I have had to use bootrec /FixMbr bootrec /FixBoot bootrec /ScanOs bootrec /RebuildBcd many times.

er backslashes on that backwards stupid OS remember

C:\fixboot\we\copy\everyoneElse'sIdeas\thenDo\opposite\for\no\logical\reason\other\than\to\disguise\copycatting

 

[mrWONERFUL]

Yikes. I don‘t know who is giving Intel such bad advice with these silly ads, but my guess it’s from the likes of professional Windows panderers like Paul Thurrot who has been in TWIT various times encouraging Intel to go after Apple with this shtick.
Dumb move regardless of where this desperation is coming from. Especially as Windows and Intel completely dominate the market and will likely continue to do for the foreseeable future as Windows and their chips run the corporate world and industry around the world.
Or perhaps they feel they are on the edge of a precipice and this is a cry for help.

What this guy said! ^^^^^^

 

[ian87w]

Soo, I think I figured it out. Apple sells roughly 20 million Macs a year. Does AMD sell more than 20 million of their chips a year? Then, Intel is going after Apple because Apple’s going to jump to number 2 in a year and Intel wants to curtail that as much as possible. It’s a fairly lost cause because anyone using macOS and up for a new laptop (to do more facebooking and emailing on) will more than likely be getting another macOS system. So this MUST be about trying their darndest to stem the flow of folks that don’t currently own Macs.

It makes more sense than anything else… they’re not going after AMD because even if AMD has a banner year, AMD is still going to just be a shadow of Intel. Oh, and there’s probably a little of “If any of you guys are thinking about shipping non-Intel systems, we WILL run ads agains you!”

This is unfortunately true. AMD, as good as they are right now, don't have the volume. They remain to be the DIY PC enthusiast segment. In enterprise and laptops, OEMs are still sticking with intel for the majority of their lineup.