how much you wanna bet that despite the new capabilities baked directly into the chip that the apple versions are crippled?
Not much difference between Haswell and new Broadwell. These still require active fan cooling.
So what? The fans in the modern MacBooks are basically inaudible. I don't understand why everyone is so obsessed with going fanless, like it's solving some great problem that currently plagues the MacBooks.
Broadwell offers plenty of improvements in GPU performance and power consumption - read up on it.
People who believe that Skylake is soon to follow must be daydreaming.
Broadwell, as any new architecture, is an investition and Intel will definately wait to make some money. I bet that mid 2016 is the earliest possible moment we can expect 6th gen.
If Skylake comes out in 2015 I'm shaving my head bald.
The excuse was that the quad core chips had a different "footprint" than the duals, and the richest company in the world, with the supply chain master, could not manage to handle two different motherboards in the mini.
My question is - are the quads a different "footprint" again with broadwell? If they are, then I can see the minis getting updated yearly now - since the air is the new standard for the mini, not the MBPs.
So what? The fans in the modern MacBooks are basically inaudible. I don't understand why everyone is so obsessed with going fanless, like it's solving some great problem that currently plagues the MacBooks.
Broadwell offers plenty of improvements in GPU performance and power consumption - read up on it.
Hardly follow intel's roadmap now.... whats the innovation???
It does matter if Apple uses it in a tablet since it's cooler in hand and passive cooling means more reliable since it'll never get clogged up with dust impacting cooling.
Last I checked Apple wasn't a charity and is in the business of making money. I can pretty much guarantee you the quad core was dropped because sales weren't high enough to justify the cost of a new motherboard design (AKA they would have lost money on it).
So what? The fans in the modern MacBooks are basically inaudible. I don't understand why everyone is so obsessed with going fanless, like it's solving some great problem that currently plagues the MacBooks.
Broadwell offers plenty of improvements in GPU performance and power consumption - read up on it.
Silent only under low cpu usage. My 2011 MBP runs really hot (90c) when under full load and it's quite loud.
Looks great on paper, but in actual use on real everyday software, it's barely an improvement over their last model or two.
Magsafe isn't going anywhere. Seriously, are you going to carry a Thunderbolt Display with you, to charge your MacBook while traveling?
Last I checked Apple wasn't a charity and is in the business of making money. I can pretty much guarantee you the quad core was dropped because sales weren't high enough to justify the cost of a new motherboard design (AKA they would have lost money on it).
Will we get a completely new Mac mini design with these new CPUs or will Apple wait for Skylake? Since they just "updated" the Mac mini (debatable) will they wait another two or three years and then stop making it because they didn't sell enough units?
It's like they're trying to kill it on purpose.![]()
Yeah you do that. There is always something slightly better "right around the corner". And while you're waiting - I will be enjoying my 12" retina Broadwell MacBookAir.
They aren't going to "drop" every single variant of Skylake CPUs when they first ship. Just like with any other generation - Intel will do incremental releases, starting with ULL chips (not suitable for any MacBooks), followed by mobile/U chips and then desktops. Skylake-U series is unlikely to ship before Q1 2016, but even if it ships in 2015 - that doesn't mean Apple will offer immediate Mac refreshes.
Bottom line - in all likelihood - you won't seeing any Skylake MacBooks in 2015.
The MacBook Pro product line has strictly kept to a 8-10 month release cycle since the first ones in 2006. This pegs an update from March (at the soonest) to May (at the latest). Interestingly enough, regardless of when, in this range, the update occurs, the 13" Pro will have Broadwell chips and the 15" Pro will not. Given this, it seems like one of three things will happen:
1. The 13" Pro is updated with Broadwell and the 15" Pro is not (which would be unlike Apple).
2. Neither are updated with Broadwell until the refresh after this next refresh (this, sadly would be like Apple)
3. Neither are updated with Broadwell until the refresh after this next refresh. But when that refresh occurs, the 13" gets quad-core CPUs (by virtue of this being a die-shrink revision and not an architectural change). (Mind you, I say this knowing very little of whether or not the Broadwell quad-cores will work in the 13" laptop's chassis without heating issues. I figure that will happen inevitably, but am not sure if this is necessarily that time.)
They could shock us. Considering Apple is gutless in this regard we probably won't see an update until the 15" MBP has suitable chips.Finally, Intel. Now let's see if Apple has the guts to update the 13" MBP before the 15". A Q2 release of the 13" would be sweet.
I assume Skylake will have a similar release pattern as Broadwell, i.e. low wattage chips first and 15/28W and up later. We will not see Skylake chips suitable for MBA/MBP before 2016.
Have you no imagination?
If a thunderbolt-cable/port could carry/accept 100 watts, a MBA could have two ports: During charging, you have a TB-cable and a power-brick that you attach your cable to. When charging, the other TB-port could be used for peripherals. When not charging, YAY - Dual ports for peripherals...
This would also mean you could have TB-peripherals and/or charging on both sides of the MBA.
I would love to see a projected side-by-side comparisson to evaluate how much snappier the Broadwell and Skylake chips are in comparrison to the lastest and greatest MPB on shelf now. Anyone? Anyone?
Finally, Intel. Now let's see if Apple has the guts to update the 13" MBP before the 15". A Q2 release of the 13" would be sweet.
I assume Skylake will have a similar release pattern as Broadwell, i.e. low wattage chips first and 15/28W and up later. We will not see Skylake chips suitable for MBA/MBP before 2016.