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Intel Launches Penryn Mobile Processors

dabirdwell said:
Doesn't the iMac use blowers? Or was that only in the G5 design?
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Yes, the current and past models use(d) fans:

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MovieCutter said:
Wow, you think FCS 2 will use all 8 cores? Or that the new processors will be 6Ghz? You'll get a 10% boost MAYBE. From your current setup, you'll get ABOUT the same performance with the current Mac Pro and the next Mac Pro. You can buy the graphics card separately.
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Compared to the current base model, the new Mac Pro will be tremendously faster if it becomes all 8-core models.
 
I bought a new iMac in August when they came out and had been waiting for quite a long time. I am very happy with it, except for intermittent freezing which I will be taking it in for once my backup drive arrives this week.

I had been counting on the fact that the new iMac revisions would not include Penryn till Spring. I would be surprised if they updated it at MWSF.

However, I still don't expect that there is much of a performance boost from my 2.8 Extreme to the new Penryn 2.8 Extreme.
 
Nice to see Intel updating their processors. I was hoping for quad core MBPs but from my research I can't see this launching for another 12 months.

Maybe Macworld 2009 will have 3.0Ghz Quad Core MBPs with 8-16gb of ram and 500-750gb hard drives - that is when I look at it and think...maybe its time to start saving for a new one.

Still, I think we will all be interested to see if such processors and incorporated into the infamous "macbook nano / macbook mini" sub-notebook.
 
roland.g said:
I bought a new iMac in August when they came out and had been waiting for quite a long time. I am very happy with it, except for intermittent freezing which I will be taking it in for once my backup drive arrives this week.

I had been counting on the fact that the new iMac revisions would not include Penryn till Spring. I would be surprised if they updated it at MWSF.

However, I still don't expect that there is much of a performance boost from my 2.8 Extreme to the new Penryn 2.8 Extreme.
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It's been 153 days since the last update! C'mon man, I need this! Don't be thinking like that...

https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//#iMac
 
eddx said:
Maybe Macworld 2009 will have 3.0Ghz Quad Core MBPs with 8-16gb of ram and 500-750gb hard drives - that is when I look at it and think...maybe its time to start saving for a new one.
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i can almost guarantee we won't see 8-16GB of Ram in 2009 (400-800% increase in a year)

750GB... I doubt we'll see that also... (300% increase in a year)
 
OllyW said:
The only Mac which doesn't use mobile processors is the Mac Pro.
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Brianstorm91 said:
Nope, mobile: keeps costs down.
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shawnce said:
iMac (and Mac Mini) use a mobile chipset and mobile processors.
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OK, OK, I'm out-voted 999999 to 1. Wishful thinking on my part, I guess: I was kind of hoping for a quad core iMac at MW.

(My wife and I are going to get a new Mac soon. The iMac is most appropriate for us for a number of reasons, except that my wife swears she will be editing video on it. I know she intends to do this, but realistically, she doesn't have the time so a MP would be so impractical. A quad-core iMac, though, kind of splits the difference--form-factor and price close to current iMacs, but reasonable video-editing muscle. With MPs presumably going all 8-core, there's room in the lineup... *Sigh*... Wishful thinking...)
 
Pressure said:
Why mention chips that were announced two months ago?
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I haven't the foggiest idea why they did that.

eddx said:
Nice to see Intel updating their processors. I was hoping for quad core MBPs but from my research I can't see this launching for another 12 months.

Maybe Macworld 2009 will have 3.0Ghz Quad Core MBPs with 8-16gb of ram and 500-750gb hard drives - that is when I look at it and think...maybe its time to start saving for a new one.

Still, I think we will all be interested to see if such processors and incorporated into the infamous "macbook nano / macbook mini" sub-notebook.
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Actually the Quad core mobile Penryns are expected sometimes from June-December of this year. Whether Apple uses them that soon is anyones guess. Thermals from my understanding were hitting 45W TDP which is higher than the 35W TDP Apple currently employs in all consumer Macs (and MBP) but the iMac 2.8 Extreme (it too has 45W TDP).
 
Bring a full Mac OS X 10.5.1 handheld (pocket-size) computer. Full-quality video out, both wired and wireless. The ultimate Keynote and PowerPoint presentation remote.

Bring also a mid-range mini-tower, new mini or whatever that is SILENT (if possible, no fans). Bring quad-core mobile to it. Bring FireWire 800 (at least two ports) to it. Bring FireWire S3200 (FireWire 3200 or FireWire d) to it when available.
 
roland.g said:
Apple has been stretching the updates somewhat I think 180-210 days is going to be more come for iMac updates. That's 6-7 months.

1st. Mac Pro
2nd. MacBook Pro
3rd. iMac
4th. MacBook
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Agreed, but with the problems the iMac screens are having, I think they're gonna make some changes to it, and when there's Penryn updates available as well… then why not? (Yea, I'm waiting to buy a new iMac! :p)
 
Feverish Flux said:
Yes, the current and past models use(d) fans:

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The fans are usually running slow and more quiet than the hard drive so you don't hear them. Do a hardware Test (On the OSX disc) to hear the fans go 100%. When I did that on my Core Duo iMac, it sounded like two hair driers and it scared the hell out of me because it was so loud and I though it was going to lift off like a helicopter.
 
It's there least selling machine. Always has been. I'd say it has less priority, especially over laptops.
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Their least selling, maybe. Historically, it makes more profit for Apple than other Macs. It's sales lagged awhile back because Adobe was slow to make CS3 UB. Mac Pro sales have skyrocketed, and Adobe may be part of that reason.

Less priority, no. It's been a *long* time since it's been updated. If there's a new MP at MW, it will sell well. And it would be nice if Apple had a couple of *capable* video cards available. Where/what is the priority for "new" laptops? A little speed bump, *maybe* a "better" graphics card, an option for a bigger HD?

We may see more LED screens, the rumored sub-notebook... But where is the market *need* (or desire, even) for a slightly improved 'Book?

Personally, I'd *like* to see a 12" sub-notebook, in an aluminum skin. MB class most likely, not MBP. But I'd probably settle for a mini-MB if it's 12" or less. I don't carry a 'Book enough to want a 13.3" "sub" notebook.

I'd also like to see a smaller tower. Even something the size of my MDD would be an improvement over the Monolith. I've wanted a Cube II, but would settle for a smaller Mac Pro. The current one is just a little large for a music server and email station. Something just big enough for a real, upgradeable video card, two HDs, and one optical drive. I'd prefer a slot drive, myself. A fan is acceptable.

And yes, minis and iMacs have fans. The G5 didn't have a blower. It had noisy fans that didn't seem to move much air but manage to annoy. I still have mine. At least I will until MWSF. I don't expect it to be upgraded, but it would be foolish not to wait.

An iPhone on steroids would be nice. Actually, I'd like something similar but with the option of no phone, just Edge/3G, with a Data Only plan. That would be great. One for the shirt pocket, one for the jacket pocket.

Oh, and a beefed up ATV would be nice.

Anyway, I can't wait until Tuesday after next!
 
Good read....

Read "The Future of Linux with Intel Core 2 “Penryn” and SSE4" section at ...
http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.php?story=07/11/15/2015212

It gives some insight into what sse4 really offers. Developers aren't too excited about it since it can only be used in some occasions and even then you could have used 2 SSE3 instructions.

Apple uses GCC and they interview some GCC developers, so you guys might be interested.
 
LED screens might be enough of a reason for an upgrade of the whole laptop line. There was quite a bit of noise around it when it came out for the Macbook Pro, and Apple could then tout the fact that all of their laptops are now friendly to the environment.

This is a bit of wishful thinking on my part since I have been saving up for a Macbook (not a pro) and I am just waiting to see what comes out next week. And there were some news a few months ago about 13" LED backlit screens being ordered by Apple if I remember correctly. If on top of that they get new processors then all the better! I'm just thinking there are enough reasons to actualize the whole range. Now, how about a real graphics card on the Macbooks :)
 
MovieCutter said:
Assuming you and the apps you use can actually USE all 8 cores.
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I remember friends asking me why I was "wasting my money" on a 2400 baud modem when everyone else was only running 300, or 1200 at the most.

I also remember a store clerk maintaining that I was "wasting my money" on adding 32MB of RAM. He claimed it was overkill.

I have no doubt that we will find ways to use all 8 cores. Dish 'em up, Apple!:D
 
SirOmega said:
Things are also looking very good for an all-quad Mac Pro lineup.
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Intel has announced twelve Xeon 5400 series processors and all of them are quad core. I wouldn't expect Apple to use the 5200 series since there wouldn't be much jump over their existing 5300 series. I also wouldn't expect Apple to use the 3000 series either, since those are single socket and would be a step back.

I would be very surprised to see Apple announce anything but an all dual socket/quad core (eight cores total) Mac Pro lineup. I think Apple didn't announce new Mac Pros earlier because neither the 8800GT nor the Radeon HD 3870 were available in quantity until right before Christmas.
 
Mac Book Pro 17" with Dual 2.8GHz Processors, new GFX card, dual HDDs, SSD options, built-in Sprint Mobile Broadband, and no corny MacBook keyboard here I come :)


okay... maybe I am dreaming a bit.
 
RAMd®d said:
Their least selling, maybe. Historically, it makes more profit for Apple than other Macs. It's sales lagged awhile back because Adobe was slow to make CS3 UB. Mac Pro sales have skyrocketed, and Adobe may be part of that reason.

Less priority, no. It's been a *long* time since it's been updated. If there's a new MP at MW, it will sell well. And it would be nice if Apple had a couple of *capable* video cards available. Where/what is the priority for "new" laptops? A little speed bump, *maybe* a "better" graphics card, an option for a bigger HD?

We may see more LED screens, the rumored sub-notebook... But where is the market *need* (or desire, even) for a slightly improved 'Book?

Personally, I'd *like* to see a 12" sub-notebook, in an aluminum skin. MB class most likely, not MBP. But I'd probably settle for a mini-MB if it's 12" or less. I don't carry a 'Book enough to want a 13.3" "sub" notebook.

I'd also like to see a smaller tower. Even something the size of my MDD would be an improvement over the Monolith. I've wanted a Cube II, but would settle for a smaller Mac Pro. The current one is just a little large for a music server and email station. Something just big enough for a real, upgradeable video card, two HDs, and one optical drive. I'd prefer a slot drive, myself. A fan is acceptable.

And yes, minis and iMacs have fans. The G5 didn't have a blower. It had noisy fans that didn't seem to move much air but manage to annoy. I still have mine. At least I will until MWSF. I don't expect it to be upgraded, but it would be foolish not to wait.

An iPhone on steroids would be nice. Actually, I'd like something similar but with the option of no phone, just Edge/3G, with a Data Only plan. That would be great. One for the shirt pocket, one for the jacket pocket.

Oh, and a beefed up ATV would be nice.

Anyway, I can't wait until Tuesday after next!
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Everything you just said is exactly what I want... except give me the beefed up iPhone and make it run on the Sprint network instead of AT&T.
 
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