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Intel Mac Firmware Update Brings BIOS Support

Richard Bleiche said:
With Boot Camp: 2 issues.

(1) Why on earth will on-the-fence, or even mainstream mac vendors spend the enormous time and effort to create two separate programs? Just make it for Windows and you can run it now on a mac. This may unwittingly signal the end of OS X software. To create programs in each code is a tremendous cost and undertaking.

(2) Here comes the Windows virus for mac: You infect Windows with a virus, that targets the OS X partition on your hard drive.

NOT good news in my opinion.
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that is a good point. Just don't use the internet when on windows:cool:
 
yac_moda said:
Apparently APPLE GAINS A BIG ADVANTAGE NOW IN THIS GAME BECAUSE MACS ARE NOW VIRTUALLY GUARANTEED TO COMPATIBLE WITH VISTA WHERE AS AN INTEL MACHINE BOUGHT TODAY COULD END UP LACKING :eek:
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What's with all that caps? Shoddily manufacturer Chinese Apple "Pro" keyboard letting you up?

I still fail to see why Macs are more compatible for vista as compared to PCs, your point is moot.
 
so what's the point of having tiger and vista? It's like having Windows XP home edition and professional on the same computer.
 
Can it be the other way?

Now that Mac computers are compatible enough to run windows, there is always a chance that PC's get into the act too - Yes, making them compatible to run OS X. That will be a bigger boost to OS switchers (From Windows to Mac). Ofcourse there is a chance that Apple loses its market share in computer Hardware, but they have the power to still outbeat the PC's (Design + looks etc).

Its a cheaper option to buy an OS X CD and load into the PC to try it out.
(Considering a larger %age of computer users already have a PC).
Is it still possible or there are serious technical hurdles in that?

I think DELL was lobbying hard for this.
How does Apple prevent this? I mean what are the restrictions?
 
yac_moda said:
NO, NO, NO, :mad: its like a husband allowing his wife TO SLEEP WITH HIS X BEST FRIEND :D
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Not at all!! It's like having your wife invite her beautiful girlfriend to sleep with you!!
 
Un B flippin Leivable........ I never thought so soon... What a clever move by Apple. If you cant beat em use em to sell more hardware til you can. Way cooler than just another ipod.
 
Ok guys, this is apple's plan:

Just like they did it with the Ipods. First, mac only, then, anybody can buy the hardware to use with windows. Finally, world domination with itunes.

Now transpose that to laptops and desktops. First, mac only. Now you can buy any mac hardware and use windows. Finally, complete destruction of Dell, Toshiba, Lenovo, Asus, Fujitsu, etc...
 
chuchin said:
Ok guys, this is apple's plan:

Just like they did it with the Ipods. First, mac only, then, anybody can buy the hardware to use with windows. Finally, world domination with itunes.

Now transpose that to laptops and desktops. First, mac only. Now you can buy any mac hardware and use windows. Finally, complete destruction of Dell, Toshiba, Lenovo, Asus, Fujitsu, etc...
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I agree..
 
Better Idea

To eliminate the known problems and frustrations with current dual-boot options, Apple should integrate switching to a different OS into Fast User Switching. Now THAT would be hot.
 
Yipee!

We all knew this coming..
But so early?!
My dad just bought one and it arrived yesterday
The next day and all of sudden hes at costco buying windows...
I pretty much hate windows (cept for gamin) but he has like a piece of shitt toshiba that he is in love w/
 
ddcrandall said:
To eliminate the known problems and frustrations with current dual-boot options, Apple should integrate switching to a different OS into Fast User Switching. Now THAT would be hot.
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That would be convenient, but that would probably require emulation or virtualization to work... unless it could be done within the firmware???

I wonder when FPGA's are ever going to catch on. Several years ago some company (Star-something Systems) had a desktop computer that used FPGAs that supposedly did 4-bit operations faster than Big Blue. Apparently, the FPGA could dynamically switch instruction sets so quickly that one theoretically could run any OS and any program on the computer simultaneously... or so I vaguely remember. If this is ever possible to do in the hardware, it would provide a much better solution than dual-booting or emulation.
 
iDrinkKoolAid said:
But now, there is official support from Apple!
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Not quite official... still beta, and they won't help you with the Windows part of it. They're helping Microsoft enough already.

EFI and BIOS said:
Macs use an ultra-modern industry standard technology called EFI to handle booting. Sadly, Windows XP, and even the upcoming Vista, are stuck in the 1980s with old-fashioned BIOS. But with Boot Camp, the Mac can operate smoothly in both centuries.
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From the sidebar and thought it was funny. :)
 
If Apple can double up on its market share (which they now should) they can force a side by side comparison for windows switchers. Of course most will buy to run windows but hell... osx is included & why not screw around with it?
Its like giving a full demo version free with your high end wintel mac.
But why cant they just get a decent emulation to run windows programs on osx?
 
chuchin said:
Ok guys, this is apple's plan:

Just like they did it with the Ipods. First, mac only, then, anybody can buy the hardware to use with windows. Finally, world domination with itunes.

Now transpose that to laptops and desktops. First, mac only. Now you can buy any mac hardware and use windows. Finally, complete destruction of Dell, Toshiba, Lenovo, Asus, Fujitsu, etc...
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Don't think so... Apple hardware is way too expensive.
 
I'm having the same problem a few other users reported. When I start to partition my HD, it says the start up disk needs to be repaired and to put in the OS X disk. There's only one problem, I'm currently at college and I stupidly left my disk at home. Is there any way I can repair the start up disk without the OS X disk? I tried using the disk utility on my computer but it won't let me repair the disk, only the permissions. Any ideas? Thanks.
 
shamino said:
What's your problem? Don't understand English?

You yourself wrote:
Only in your imagination does "bundled with a commercial product" mean the same thing as "free".

If you have to buy a copy of Norton Utilities (or anything else) to get it, then it isn't free. This isn't rocket science. This is simple logic.
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NO ITS simple LOGIC, SOMETIMES and even in YOUR imagination does "bundled with a commercial product" mean the same thing as "free".

YOU TELL ME WHEN THIS HAPPENs -- Rocket Scientist :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
chuchin said:
Not at all!! It's like having your wife invite her beautiful girlfriend to sleep with you!!
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NO, NO, its like this -- Its JUST LIKE Bill Gates comes to YOUR house and DOES :eek: ...



... YOUR HOLE FAMILY :eek: :( :eek:
 
will this firmware update erase any data? or will all files/apps remain intact?
is this so, even if something goes wrong during update and you have to revert back to previous version of firmware?

first thing i'll do when i get my new imac (hopefully today or tomorrow) is to update all software to current (tiger etc.) and install the new firmware

thanks
 
generik said:
What's with all that caps? Shoddily manufacturer Chinese Apple "Pro" keyboard letting you up?

I still fail to see why Macs are more compatible for vista as compared to PCs, your point is moot.
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Send ME $200 in the mail and I WILL explain it to YOU :eek:
 
dalvin200 said:
will this firmware update erase any data? or will all files/apps remain intact?
is this so, even if something goes wrong during update and you have to revert back to previous version of firmware?

first thing i'll do when i get my new imac (hopefully today or tomorrow) is to update all software to current (tiger etc.) and install the new firmware

thanks
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Think of it as updating your iPod's firmware. Actually, it behaves very similarly. Once you apply the firmware, there are special instructions for turning your computer off and on again. Then, you see the Apple start up logo, and a progress bar below it.

It works easy. No worries, just do it.
 
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