Intel Macs Won't Get Updates After macOS Tahoe

[redheeler]

Well,

They released their last PowerPC mac in 2005, last major ppc os release in 2007, last minor update in 2009

They supported 32 bit Intel cpu's less than that, I'd say if they can release 2+ years of security updates after 2026 (which they do anyway,) then they handled the transition perfectly, gave devs more then 5 years to convert their apps. Gave people more than 5 years to upgrade and etc. Intel mac pro will probably be 9-10 years old when they release the last security patch for Tahoe

This isn't telling developers that Rosetta 2 will be dropped next year so they must be Apple Silicon native by then (which would make a lot of sense at a developer event). What this is referring to is Intel Mac support, which doesn't really serve much purpose even at a developer event, other than to drop a hint that you don't need to support them for much longer.

Most developers certainly wouldn't still be developing exclusively for Intel Macs at this point to care about such an announcement outside of "well then I don't need to develop for Intels anymore". And that could've been made clear next year instead...

 

[Alwis]

Also, the macs supported this year are really fortunate because they are getting a big redesign, a nice update with nice features, and three years (26, and two more) of remaining security updates.

Yes, we knew that was comming. But they sold the last 2020 27“ iMac in 2022, so that ist only 4 1/2 years with a current OS. And this from a company that claims how environmental friendly it is.

At least the should commit to the 2 years of security updates

 

[adamw]

The end of the line for Intel CPU Macs... Expect Intel Mac resale prices to drop like a rock.

 

[0423MAC]

That’s fine. Stick with Tahoe until security updates stop. Then after that Linux and Windows 11 will continue to work and by that time you’ll likely want to upgrade anyway.

 

[Monotremata]

If Tahoe leaves Intel machines in a good spot like Leopard for PowerPC, I’m ok with it.

What were the good spots?? Cause Leopard flat out sucked on my dual G4, and was pretty crappy and sluggish on my 1Ghz Ti PowerBook. It wasn't until I got my 'band-aid' dual core G5 that the OS finally ran like everything before it did on my previous Mac's..

 

[Dangermen]

Apple should have to be a LOT more transparent about what security updates mean/look like. There should be standardized software/hardware EOL disclosure.

Example of what would be great:

 

[SomeSoftwareGuy]

I'm interested to see if this means OpenGL support will finally get dropped as well. I didn't
watch the platform state of the union so I can't tell if it was mentioned, but I keep waiting for it to get the axe.

 

[Squozen]

Frankly, I expected Apple to drop all intel support with Sequoia, but I do have to say it’s nice they didn’t. Might squeeze an extra year out of my 16” 2019. Still a great machine.

If you think that is a great machine you are going to be knocked out by the ARM Macs. I couldn’t get rid of my 2019 i9 fast enough - ridiculously hot and loud.

 

[ItsASpider]

Yes, we knew that was comming. But they sold the last 2020 27“ iMac in 2022, so that ist only 4 1/2 years with a current OS. And this from a company that claims how environmental friendly it is.

At least the should commit to the 2 years of security updates

The Mac Pro, a device that at minimum set you back $5.999 (up to multiple tens of thousands of dollars), was sold until almost on the week 2 years ago. That's only 3 years of being on the most recent OS, and only 5 years of any support at all.

That's worse support than the cheapest iPad gets, and frankly nothing short from disgusting for those prices.

 

[sigmasirrus]

This… this was expectable, honestly. The day we all knew was coming, since the days the first Apple Silicon Mac’s were rumored, back in… well, they’ve been rumored since ancient times, but especially since 2018 and 2019… So, nothing new here.

Also, the macs supported this year are really fortunate because they are getting a big redesign, a nice update with nice features, and three years (26, and two more) of remaining security updates.

Idk, the redesign might be a liability if it doesn’t go well. I feel like Apple had a serviceable mature design before. Now there’s a lot of readability issues. They might iterate on it and fix it like they did with iOS7. But Intel Macs won’t get those iterations then…

 

[seek3r]

When will Rosetta2 be removed I wonder.

Itll be a long, long time.

 

[sigmasirrus]

The Mac Pro, a device that at minimum set you back $5.999 (up to multiple tens of thousands of dollars), was sold until almost on the week 2 years ago. That's only 3 years of being on the most recent OS, and only 5 years of any support at all.

That's worse support than the cheapest iPad gets, and frankly nothing short from disgusting for those prices.

Yeah across the board Apple needs to provide roadmaps like Microsoft does for their OS releases.

 

[KPOM]

Hopefully by 2027

My guess is longer than that. Some apps are still released as x64 only (e.g. TurboTax), plus if they are still supporting game porting, that requires Rosetta 2 to work.

 

[KENESS]

The economy is so great that the average person can afford to upgrade a perfectly functioning 5 year old laptop because a company arbitrarily decided it's outdated.

Who says you have to get a new computer just because no more major OS updates? Nobody thinks that way! Except melodramatic types with an axe to grind here. Most people could not possibly care less about the operating system.

 

[chelsel]

New work laptop is a new 2019 Intel MacBook Pro. It's enough to make me quit this new job honestly. So that means they will likely get another 2 years out of this piece of garbage.

 

[DrWojtek]

Oef, that's a big f--ing yikes, especially for those who bought a Mac Pro 2019. That was still the most recent model less then 2 years ago.

If you bought a Mac Pro in 2019 you had performance needs, and if you had performance needs you sold that in 2021 and went either PC or Apple Silicon.

 

[phuklok1]

i don't know why people think apple will now focus so much better on mac os without the intel stuff. you do realize that supporting intel machines involves just changing a compiler option for the source code, right? LOL. It's not different code. also, we're not talking about making all platform specific AI features available - they're not currently doing that anyway even with supported older devices. We're just talking about the basic OS functions. I mean you can port UNIX to basically any platform, and guess what mac os is under the GUI interface? it takes almost no developer time to continue supporting the platform. it's just forcing people to replace hardware that is functional for the bottom line.

 

[SkippyThorson]

What were the good spots?? Cause Leopard flat out sucked on my dual G4, and was pretty crappy and sluggish on my 1Ghz Ti PowerBook. It wasn't until I got my 'band-aid' dual core G5 that the OS finally ran like everything before it did on my previous Mac's..

I didn’t have a problem with Leopard on the iBook G4 or two iMac G4’s.

The fact they gave us a taste of macOS for years to come was enough to hold out with - it felt modern.

It gave us BootCamp, Time Machine, and a taste of MobileMe… Ok ignore that last one. 🤣 I didn’t have an issue with the OS or the hardware it ran on. I remember it fondly. (BootCamp was on the Intel Mac; my bad!)

I also never had a G5, so that helps too.

 

[GMShadow]

The end of the line for Intel CPU Macs... Expect Intel Mac resale prices to drop like a rock.

They already did a few years ago.

If you think that is a great machine you are going to be knocked out by the ARM Macs. I couldn’t get rid of my 2019 i9 fast enough - ridiculously hot and loud.

The i7 versions are a lot quieter. Battery life isn't great compared to AS, no, but the heat issues on the i9s aren't nearly as bad on the i7.

 

[csnwbd2251]

MacOS 27 = MacOS "Death Valley" for Intel Macs...

 

[MTWomg]

I didn’t have a problem with Leopard on the iBook G4 or two iMac G4’s.

The fact they gave us a taste of macOS for years to come was enough to hold out with - it felt modern.

It gave us BootCamp, Time Machine, and a taste of MobileMe… Ok ignore that last one. 🤣 I didn’t have an issue with the OS or the hardware it ran on. I remember it fondly.

I also never had a G5, so that helps too.

Uh, you did not have Boot Camp on your PPC Mac...

 

[redheeler]

I didn’t have a problem with Leopard on the iBook G4 or two iMac G4’s.

The fact they gave us a taste of macOS for years to come was enough to hold out with - it felt modern.

It gave us BootCamp, Time Machine, and a taste of MobileMe… Ok ignore that last one. 🤣 I didn’t have an issue with the OS or the hardware it ran on. I remember it fondly.

I also never had a G5, so that helps too.

Boot Camp was never available on PowerPC.

 

[reyesmac]

I strongly believe most of the things that stop Intel Macs GUI from being as fast as Apple Silicon can be is all down to limitations imposed by Apple artificially. Nothing about those chips would prevent windows from loading any faster than they do now. But Apple has worked on replacing intel for so long that they just kept it that slow on purpose to have a clear reason to upgrade it in the off chance they couldn't make the chips drastically faster.

 

[johannnn]

They will still give security updates for several more years. So people just gotta chill.

I'm running macOS 13 Ventura on my 2017 iMac and I still get security updates

 

[nickf]

Itll be a long, long time.

Yeah I don't see it going away for a while yet.