Intel Officially Launches First Quad-Core Ivy Bridge Processors

[drorpheus]

"Again"? When was the last time that Apple called a product "revolutionary" based on the processor?

Somewhere between spring and summer of 2003.

 

[Ryth]

the graphics of the 4000 have improved 40% over the 3000.

what I found most interesting is the claim made by Anandtech that haswell graphics will be really big improvement over the 4000 graphics.

It seems to me that if you have a 2011 mac with sandy bridge you need to wait until haswell. If you have an older mac go out and buy the 2012 with ivy bridge.

Sadly, we have a stronger faith that the software side won’t be cleaned up. Look for Haswell GT3 to be the fastest integrated GPU hardware ever, just don’t look for it to work well.

Also....

http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/23/nvidia-kepler-for-ivy-bridge-ultrabooks/

...if you have the dedicated NVidia chip...

 

[Mike Valmike]

A SSD as a boot drive is perfect

That's what you do. For example if you were ordering the current 2011 iMac, you would use a 256GB SSD as your OS drive and working drive, and add in a 2TB HDD for all your media. (Internal. The 27" iMacs can fit both.) The new iMac config-to-order options we can only speculate about right now, but it stands to reason that you'd use a smaller SSD as the boot drive same as before and add, what? 2TB, 3TB, 4TB? as a secondary HDD for media.

And not to worry: Lion is a lot smaller than Windows 7 as far as footprint.

 

[basesloaded190]

The average person does not know that Samsung makes the retina display or that Microsoft powers iCloud. Surely you're not going to argue that nonsense too.

What does that have anything to do with Apple and their advertising of processor specs?

 

[pacalis]

What does that have anything to do with Apple and their advertising of processor specs?

Everything. Apple hides the guts, or its "magic," as you called it. The average person on the street is provided with the brand but is not actually provided with the processor model. Given there is huge variation within brands like i3 or i5, the average guy on the street does not know what is in his mac.

 

[omgitswes]

That's what you do. For example if you were ordering the current 2011 iMac, you would use a 256GB SSD as your OS drive and working drive, and add in a 2TB HDD for all your media. (Internal. The 27" iMacs can fit both.) The new iMac config-to-order options we can only speculate about right now, but it stands to reason that you'd use a smaller SSD as the boot drive same as before and add, what? 2TB, 3TB, 4TB? as a secondary HDD for media.

And not to worry: Lion is a lot smaller than Windows 7 as far as footprint.

Yeah, that's how my gaming rig is set up now. I was talking about laptops though.
What I planned on doing was just removing the ODD and installing a SSD for a boot drive and keeping the HDD. I hear Apple is trying to remove ODDs all together though, so that will suck.

Unless these new MBPs are a huge upgrade, I'm thinking about just getting a current gen one and sticking with my original plan

 

[basesloaded190]

Everything. Apple hides the guts, or its "magic," as you called it. The average person on the street is provided with the brand but is not actually provided with the processor model. Given there is huge variation within brands like i3 or i5, the average guy on the street does not know what is in his mac.

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/

Yup they sure seem to like to hide everything

 

[yeah]

Now I'm waiting on those refreshed iMacs and Macbook Pros (Mac Minis and Macbook Airs in the summer). Don't forget the Mac Pros. I want to see what kind of chips those "bad-boys" are using

 

[GSPice]

I want to see how close this next crop of MBPs can benchmark against the current (and yes, overdue for a refresh, yes, yes I freakin KNOW) Mac Pros.

Oh and I want an external GPU option.

 

[314631]

Wow the new MacBook Pros will be the fastest and most powerful EVER! My credit card is ready and waiting...

 

[dokujaryu]

Really hoping for new iMacs. I'm also really hoping the new iMacs are easier to stick an SSD into yourself...

 

[twoodcc]

could we see mac updates tomorrow?

 

[milo]

could we see mac updates tomorrow?

Considering their earnings announcement is tomorrow, I doubt it.

 

[tido2012]

I just hope that they come out with a 13" laptop with discrete graphics card capabilities since these things are getting less and less upgradeable.

 

[Confuzzzed]

i7-3820QM in a Mac Mini with a discrete GPU would be ace. Shame I don’t see it happening until Q4.

Exactly my wish too. But predict mid-July in line with mountain Lion as release date

 

[phonitron]

could we see mac updates tomorrow?

I would have thought that unlikely. The online store should be down in the UK by now but isn't.

 

[Frankied22]

I would have thought that unlikely. The online store should be down in the UK by now but isn't.

What?

The store usually goes down really late/early morning pacific time for Mac refreshes. If it happens tomorrow, expect the store to be down around 1 am pacific time.

I think it's going to happen tomorrow or Thursday.

 

[7even]

In the past Apple would release updated Macbook Pros around 1.5-2 months after Intel's initial announcement. Sandy Bridge chips were 'available' early Jan 2011 and new MBPs were announced late Feb.

I do hope they show up sooner rather than later though

 

[yeah]

In the past Apple would release updated Macbook Pros around 1.5-2 months after Intel's initial announcement. Sandy Bridge chips were 'available' early Jan 2011 and new MBPs were announced late Feb.

I do hope they show up sooner rather than later though

Could be as early as tomorrow or in a couple of weeks. Everyone is so excited.

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From Ivy Bridge vs Sandy Bridge @ 4.8GHz Quad-Core CPU Showdown:


That's good.


Enjoy your new HotBooks™



Corrected.

Intel's Ivy Bridge runs COOLER than Sandy Bridge. This is going to be a interesting year my friend.

 

[shaunymac]

thank god I checked-in here...I was about to buy a mac to refresh my aging mbp. I think I can wait it out a few more months!

I really wish they would just get on with the mac pro already! I mean update it or call it dead, something. I can't decided wether or not to get a mac pro or just get one of these new i7's and deal with external drives.??? Clarity on apple's end would be nice.

 

[jnpy!$4g3cwk]

I guess Apple could be a jackass, pull FW and say "Buy one of our $69 adaptors if you want FW!" Looks like Sonnet might have an adaptor:

http://www.thunderbolt-peripherals.com/thunderbolt-adapter

Adding a second Thunderbolt port might be a viable alternative to keeping FW800. With a single dual-channel dual-use port, it isn't.

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A huge increase in speed for apps that can take advantage of it like the Creative Suite.
Anywhere from 8x -27x faster.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/adobe-cs6.html?cid=cs6

Adobe seems to be getting with the program:

http://www.itwriting.com/blog/5717-...cury-graphics-engine-in-creative-suite-6.html

https://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/faq.html

"New support for the OpenCL-based AMD Radeon HD 6750M and 6770M cards available with certain Apple MacBook Pro computers running OS X Lion (v10.7x), with a minimum of 1GB VRAM, brings GPU-accelerated mobile workflows to Mac users."

 

[phonitron]

What?

The store usually goes down really late/early morning pacific time for Mac refreshes. If it happens tomorrow, expect the store to be down around 1 am pacific time.

I think it's going to happen tomorrow or Thursday.

I always thought it would have worked out that the likes of New Zealand would get the tell tale signs of the store going down first. The other week when the store went down to reveal the replacement for the yellow sticky note, the UK store was down at midnight GMT.

 

[pacalis]

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/

Yup they sure seem to like to hide everything

So as a first example, i3 doesn't mean much - its a brand. There are potentially nineteen models of i3 that could be in your Macbook or Air.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/All-Core-i3-Models/951/3
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/All-Core-i3-Models/951/5

There are nearly as many i5s and i7s. Some i3s perform better than i5s. For example an i3-2350M is 20% faster than an i5-520M.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/

My point always was that Apple does not tell you fully what's in the machines. If you're buying a dell or an acer or a sumsung etc... they will always give you the processor model (i.e. i3-2350M) on the specs of your machine so the consumer makes a choice on the processor.

Apple just doesn't. Follow your own link to see that.

And back to what consumers know, they don't. When the i3-380M came out it was out-performing most i5s for several months. And similarly there are some really ****** i7 models out there, like the i7-620M which were being sold for more than much faster i5s. So it does matter.

 

[VPrime]

There are potentially nineteen models of i3 that could be in your Macbook or Air. Apple does not list these.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/All-Core-i3-Models/951/3
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/All-Core-i3-Models/951/5

There are nearly as many i5s and i7s. Some i3s perform better than i5s. For example an i3-2350M is 20% faster than an i5-520M.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/

If you're buying a dell or an acer or a sumsung etc... they will always give you the chip model (i.e. i3-2350M) on the specs of your machine.

Apple doesn't.

Instead Apple gives you techie sounding brands. And then you give me links to those brands to argue that the consumer is well informed by Apple.

They give you enough info for you to figure it out if it matters. They tell you i7, i5 etc.. How many cores and the speed.
The actual model number is irrelevant to most consumers.

The extra details only matter if you are building a system from scratch. Where socket type, and unlocked multipliers matter..

 

[pacalis]

They give you enough info for you to figure it out if it matters. They tell you i7, i5 etc.. How many cores and the speed.
The actual model number is irrelevant to most consumers.

The extra details only matter if you are building a system from scratch. Where socket type, and unlocked multipliers matter..

We agree - an informed consumer can figure this stuff out all over the place. I simply got here because I wanted to support an earlier poster cause I thought basesloaded was being a bit of a d&*k. But it didn't help much.

The original comment was that many people purchasing Macs attribute the quality improvement to Apple rather than their suppliers. I think there is a lot of truth to this.

Bases disagrees, but I'm trying to make the argument that apple simply does not provide sufficient info to consumers to justify his arguments that the average consumer is well informed. While bases says the consumer isn't that dumb, apple does literally pitch "magic" to the masses.

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Of course making a claim that most mac people don't know much about processors on an mac enthusiast forum, on a thread about new processors, probably wasn't the best play.