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Intel Officially Launches First Quad-Core Ivy Bridge Processors

Torrijos said:
The main question is going to be what discreet GPU is Apple going to use (if any) in its MBPro line or a revised mini.

Still I was hoping for the new line to have a lower Max TDP, allowing the use of faster discreet GPUs, but they have the same thermal characteristics...
Doesn't bode well for the MBPro to Air form factor transformation :(
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Personally I will get much more interested in those new MBPs if NVIDIA's chips will made in them. Why? I am doing some CUDA programming from time time.
 
Kilamite said:
15" Ivy Bridge MacBook Pro, retina display, USB 3.0.

We can't be that far off a release date, within the next 3 weeks?
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Remember whether a display is defined as a "Retina Display" is determined by the dpi and the view distance. You forgot better battery life.

jnpy!$4g3cwk said:
Based on the tests people with sample chips have posted elsewhere, it doesn't look like that big an advantage over Sandy Bridge, except for the integrated GPU products. The HD 4000 looks fast enough for non-graphics/gaming/etc systems that it surely will take some market from AMD and Nvidia for the low-end chips.
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It depends on which chips Apple actually uses. Also, USB 3 is useful.

thegreypatch said:
Doubt the new macbook pro's will be released tomorrow, isnt even a leak of a possible look alike or prototype design or anything apart from hyped up rumours! Total crap!
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Unless there is no redesign and it's just updated internals.
 
Bring it on. Though processing power is important, i'm looking forward to the power consumption improvements. I wouldn't mind if that extra power was used to drive a retina display.
 
Bear said:
Remember whether a display is defined as a "Retina Display" is determined by the dpi and the view distance. You forgot better battery life.

It depends on which chips Apple actually uses. Also, USB 3 is useful.

Unless there is no redesign and it's just updated internals.
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Imagine no redesign how many people would cry and spit dummy! Haha
 
Bear said:
Remember whether a display is defined as a "Retina Display" is determined by the dpi and the view distance. You forgot better battery life.
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Battery life will be compensated by a bigger battery in a redesign (i.e. no optical drive). Ivy Bridge is also more energy efficient.

Intel says Ivy Bridge is meant for retina displays, so we'll definitely see them in the near future, and I'm sure Apple wants to be the first in the industry to use such a high DPI display in their laptops.
 
Ivy vs. Sandy

They said these chips would be for all mac's except the Mac Pros. Wouldn't we want Ivy Bridge in the Mac Pros? Wasn't Ivy Bridge supposed to pack way more processing power than Sandy Bridge?
 
russomon said:
They said these chips would be for all mac's except the Mac Pros. Wouldn't we want Ivy Bridge in the Mac Pros? Wasn't Ivy Bridge supposed to pack way more processing power than Sandy Bridge?
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I believe that is because we will not be seeing any 6-core or 8-core variants with these Ivy Bridge chips, until the server-grade Ivy Bridge chips are announced. The Sandy Bridge E5 chips have 6 and 8-core variants -- the Ivy Bridge ones now max out at Quad-core.
 
russomon said:
They said these chips would be for all mac's except the Mac Pros. Wouldn't we want Ivy Bridge in the Mac Pros? Wasn't Ivy Bridge supposed to pack way more processing power than Sandy Bridge?
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later in 2013 is when Intel will produce those. Then Apple has to continue the MP's to make use of them at that time. That's still in doubt.
 
usptact said:
A nice strawman fallacy attempt by the way. I didn't say that Apple called revolutionary based on the processor.
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Here's what you said: "Apple will put em' into their machines and call it a REVOLUTION once again."

So when was the last time that Apple put (new) processors into a machine and called it a revolution? Come on, surely you don't post something, start arguing about it, and then have nothing to back it up?


russomon said:
They said these chips would be for all mac's except the Mac Pros. Wouldn't we want Ivy Bridge in the Mac Pros? Wasn't Ivy Bridge supposed to pack way more processing power than Sandy Bridge?
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For comparable chips, Ivy Bridge is better than Sandy Bridge, no doubt. But Intel hasn't released Ivy Bridge chips yet that are comparable to those in the Mac Pros. They stop at quad core, and probably single chip systems. You can buy Mac Pros with 12 cores right now.
 
usptact said:
Completely agree but an user X perceives it as a success of Apple.
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That's because Apple turns all those parts into a special, cohesive whole, the way others are unable to.

Consumers have a general idea that Apple has suppliers. But the real kicker is that Apple makes it *appear* (without necessarily intending to) as if it's all their own doing.

There's nothing wrong with this, and is really a testament to the strength of Apple's products, and the incredible amount of positive mindshare they've earned over the years.
 
Moonjumper said:
They didn't wait for Lion before updates.
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True for the Pro. We'll probably see Mountain Lion shipped with the new Airs. Wish we have ETA on ML. July? They just said "Summer". As for the 13" MBP, the Dual Cores will be available June 3. Here's hoping we'll see the 15" soon though. Credit Card's impatiently waiting.
 
arctic said:
As for the 13" MBP, the Dual Cores will be available June 3. Here's hoping we'll see the 15" soon though. Credit Card's impatiently waiting.
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There is i7-3612QM too which is a 2.1GHz 35W quad core. Technically Apple could make MBP quad core only.
 
usptact said:
Personally I will get much more interested in those new MBPs if NVIDIA's chips will made in them. Why? I am doing some CUDA programming from time time.
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What does CUDA give you that OpenCL does not?


Bear said:
It depends on which chips Apple actually uses. Also, USB 3 is useful.
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Good point. USB 3.0 got off to a bad start with early chips+drivers, but, this should be a mature 3.0 implementation. Presumably what Apple has been waiting for. If they do go 3.0, I hope they don't drop FW immediately-- for those of us with FW devices, it would be annoying if there is no transition.




In regards to a couple of comments about the Mac Pro -- the E5 Xeons (Sandy Bridge) just came out and are very competitive--performance-wise. Most are also very pricey. Ivy Bridge Xeons are a long way off. On the other hand, if Apple did want to come out with a mid-priced single-CPU mini-tower, Ivy Bridge would be just the thing.
 
Bear said:
Remember whether a display is defined as a "Retina Display" is determined by the dpi and the view distance. You forgot better battery life.
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Look at the new iPad. Battery used to be like 25 watt hours and now it is ~43 in the new iPad. Battery still fits in the same space, just more condensed and packed in. Still gets the same battery life. Totally doable.

thegreypatch said:
Imagine no redesign how many people would cry and spit dummy! Haha
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Honestly I would kind of like to keep the same design. Mainly because then I could put in my own SSD and have the hard drive in the optical bay.

Kilamite said:
Battery life will be compensated by a bigger battery in a redesign (i.e. no optical drive). Ivy Bridge is also more energy efficient.

Intel says Ivy Bridge is meant for retina displays, so we'll definitely see them in the near future, and I'm sure Apple wants to be the first in the industry to use such a high DPI display in their laptops.
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Not just bigger battery in a new design, but also a more condensed battery.

And I definitely think apple will be the first to bring high resolution screens to laptops. Everybody else is too afraid to do that because no PC manufacturer wants to innovate or bring something new. Especially when it could potentially bring their prices up, and we all know that the low price is the only thing PCs have going for them. I think Apple will be the first to do it without making the price go up one penny.

jnpy!$4g3cwk said:
What does CUDA give you that OpenCL does not?
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Just out of curiosity, can you name some applications that take advantage of OpenCL and don't take advantage of CUDA? Because I can name a few that only take advantage of CUDA without even thinking, and the ones I am thinking of are very widely known and used. Can't say the same for OpenCL.
 
We have speed and hopefully this 22 nanometer change will bring in longer battery times and increased video performance (possible coattail of increased overall performance) in integrated graphics. Only time will tell but this is a highly anticipated release.

There will come a time when a processor will burn so cold, so to speak, that battery times will not even be an issue nor will it be used as a bullet point in advertising. Dedicated graphics on laptops will cease to be necessity. I don't expect these issues to disappear quite yet but when we hit 16 nanometers, processors will become incredibly powerful in every aspect and not drain the battery on a daily basis.
 
Nice, now I just need HDD prices to drop so I can start my HTPC build.

Hopefully the notebook versions comes out soon too. I really need a laptop
 
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