Intel Provides early 'Montevina'-Like Technology to iMac

[k2spitfire88]

It's my contribution to the environment, silly. 🙂

my way is more GREEN!!!!

And you spend more green😀! Economic stimulus package😉. Seriously though, I am happy they dropped their ridiculous ram prices all around, good for you taking advantage of it. If you have no desire to put it in yourself, then let them install it at a reasonable price, and the reason it is a little more expensive is they have to pay people to put the RAM in there. Probably not as much as they charge, but you know apple overcharges for everything.

 

[offwidafairies]

On the other hand he did whatever he wanted with his money and shared the experience with us and YOU are being judgemental about it.

Keep in mind by Apple lowering the margins on memory VERY SUBSTANTIALLY, many more folks like him are simply buying RAM from Apple at the time of the purchase. It lowers the lag time to RAM upgrade from your proposed actions, saves all the transportation, buy and sell activity and associated shipping activity you propose, and most importantly of all, is less stressful of an experience on a variety of levels. It is LESS WORK.

Let him enjoy his $100 extra expense in exchange for LESS WORK. Do not make it your personal mission to "wreck his tude". Live and let live.

Be in harmony with the world around. Oops, now I am starting to sound like Steve Jobs! 🙂

Rocketman

Well said. Shipping fuel is a huge pollutant. And think of the trees cut down for the packaging. And just the sheer waste. Money cannot be eaten etc etc

 

[offwidafairies]

The original article cited Mac Mall rebates as some reason to buy from them. Don't count on getting them, though.

I bought my first MacBook last summer from them and there were four rebates in force for the things that I bought. *They* emailed me the coupons while I was on the phone with them placing the order. I followed their instructions *to the letter* and furnished copies of everything that was request. TWO of the rebates were answered with a letter from them stating that they did not recognize the rebate program. After that, I surfed the web to find that MacMall is about 50% on actually honoring rebates.

Buy your Mac on technical justification wherever you buy it from. Buy it from MacMall if it's a good deal on its own. But *don't* count on actually getting a rebate from *them.* Me, I'm never buying squat from them again. Once bitten, twice shy..

I have not recieved my MacMall rebates from my last purchase. And they were supposed to send me a cheque for something else. They told me they posted it. When I rang a month later, they discovered they had not posted it... I don't trust those rebates at all. In fact, I look at the prices without the rebates these days.

 

[137489]

And you spend more green😀! Economic stimulus package😉. Seriously though, I am happy they dropped their ridiculous ram prices all around, good for you taking advantage of it. If you have no desire to put it in yourself, then let them install it at a reasonable price, and the reason it is a little more expensive is they have to pay people to put the RAM in there. Probably not as much as they charge, but you know apple overcharges for everything.

Since you all keep going back and forth on this ram price thing? Did they drop the price on the Macbook Ram? I have 2gb now and ordered it that way, but it would be sweet to upgrade it to 4gb (I think that is the max for my machine), or do you all think that would be overkill. I only noticed the beachball once, but I had alot (5 mac windows [almost hate saying those two words together] and 3 MS apps running. Very seldom do I usually tax out a personally machine that way. A work machine, well that would be common place..... the macbook was only a day old, and I was loading all my software along with downloading youtube Videos, oh, and also running the time machine backup for the first time (I think even spotlight was still indexing for the first time) - when it beachballed for only about 1 minute. the beachball occured when I started up Premier Elements on Parallels, but that usually hogged my dell anyway - even when it was the only app running. I have not beachballed since, so it may be only a one time occurance with all I was doing, especially working the hard drive with all the loading and downloading.😕

 

[Anaxarxes]

Since you all keep going back and forth on this ram price thing? Did they drop the price on the Macbook Ram? I have 2gb now and ordered it that way, but it would be sweet to upgrade it to 4gb (I think that is the max for my machine), or do you all think that would be overkill. I only noticed the beachball once, but I had alot (5 mac windows [almost hate saying those two words together] and 3 MS apps running. Very seldom do I usually tax out a personally machine that way. A work machine, well that would be common place..... the macbook was only a day old, and I was loading all my software along with downloading youtube apps, oh, and also running the time machine backup for the first time - when it beachballed for only about 1 minute. the beachball occured when I started up Premier Elements on Parallels, but that usually hogged my dell anyway - even when it was the only app running. I have not beachballed since, so it may be only a one time occurance with all I was doing, especially working the hard drive with all the loading and downloading.😕

The thing is that more ram is always good. If you can afford it, I'd say go buy it.

And yes, Apple did lower the upgrade fee on Macbooks for 4GB RAM ( the same as iMac, $200 )

 

[ricosuave]

Does anyone know what drives are included with the 1TB upgrade?

 

[137489]

The thing is that more ram is always good. If you can afford it, I'd say go buy it.

And yes, Apple did lower the upgrade fee on Macbooks for 4GB RAM ( the same as iMac, $200 )

Thanks. the next time I am at my local Apple Store, I may see what it will cost to max it out. I am going to be working with a lot of videos for my church, so I am wanting to experiment with Final Cut Express and see how much better it is over Premier Elements. I pretty much can run circles around Elements, but I need more in the way of special effects.

One thing I noticed though is the screen configuration. the 13 inch macbook is not even one inch larger than the 12 inch dell XPS M1210 I have (I sat the dell on top of the macbook), but the screen seems so so much bigger to work with. Nice when dealing with photos and videos.

Unfortuately though, I still need premier elements as Final Cut only exports in Quicktime (.mov) from what I can see, and the videos need to be imported into a church application that does not use .MOV, rather .WMV (if you want to keep the file sizes small and have it run quicker). So I am going to have to export in Final Cut, import into Premier Elements and render in .WMV

Now, if someone could come up with an app that does Final Cut, Premier Elements, and even the special effects of Muvee, that would be killer....

Sorry, I do not have the money for a mac pro or macbook pro, so I cannot run the full version of Final Cut Studio.

 

[Hooka]

Well said. Shipping fuel is a huge pollutant. And think of the trees cut down for the packaging. And just the sheer waste. Money cannot be eaten etc etc

That's what I was trying to say. The energy that goes into making just 1 dim of ram is huge as well. Save the energy and everything else that goes into manufacturing and bring to market.

$100 net difference in the end to me seems like a fair payoff, I get my ram and it's shipped once. And the 2x1gb sticks that I would have to sell can go into another computer from Apple. You might not think something as simple as letting Apple installing ram and paying a little over for the service is doing the environment a huge favor, but it is. But thanks for your concern for my money, lol.

 

[milo]

This could be pretty hot and noisy for a system that's right in front of you....

Or it could be no worse than the previous models.

Instead of jumping to conclusions, why not just ask one of the people who bought one?

So for those who bought one, particularly the two top speeds, how is the noise and the heat?

 

[ukmacmonster]

FWIW I ordered mine with 4GB RAM directly from Apple. Yeah I could get it cheaper elsewhere. But can you actually get the latest 800 MHz RAM modules right now? Who cares, that's something I don't need to research.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

If you have no desire to put it in yourself, then let them install it at a reasonable price, and the reason it is a little more expensive is they have to pay people to put the RAM in there.

If for no other reason than not having to deal with that PITA single screw! I'd rather replace the RAM in a white iMac anytime.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

$100 net difference in the end to me seems like a fair payoff, I get my ram and it's shipped once. And the 2x1gb sticks that I would have to sell can go into another computer from Apple. You might not think something as simple as letting Apple installing ram and paying a little over for the service is doing the environment a huge favor, but it is.

Also, you won't have to worry about jeopardizing AppleCare (as you place Apple primarily in the driver seat if they ever blame your aftermarket RAM and you can't get anywhere further than that). You avoid the hassle of removing the aftermarket RAM and add back the original sticks if you ever need to take it in. I'd do the same thing for only $100 difference.

 

[milo]

Also, you won't have to worry about jeopardizing AppleCare (as you place Apple primarily in the driver seat if they ever blame your aftermarket RAM and you can't get anywhere further than that). You avoid the hassle of removing the aftermarket RAM and add back the original sticks if you ever need to take it in. I'd do the same thing for only $100 difference.

Has anyone here ever had apple blame third party ram for problems? And is it really that hard to swap back to the original ram?

The FUD about third party parts "jeopardizing AppleCare" always comes up. I call BS.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

Has anyone here ever had apple blame third party ram for problems? And is it really that hard to swap back to the original ram?

The FUD about third party parts "jeopardizing AppleCare" always comes up. I call BS.

Yes, I've heard of it happening, and I've heard of Apple taking out the aftermarket sticks and putting them in a plastic bag when they ship it back to you. No, it's not that difficult to swap back to the original RAM, just that some people would be willing to pay $100 to avoid the hassle of doing so.

 

[old-wiz]

I have not recieved my MacMall rebates from my last purchase. And they were supposed to send me a cheque for something else. They told me they posted it. When I rang a month later, they discovered they had not posted it... I don't trust those rebates at all. In fact, I look at the prices without the rebates these days.

Mail in rebates are very very rare to actually reach you from ANY vendor. Think of the rebate as a possible bonus, but don't expect them. Usually the rebates require an inordinate amount of effort, and if you forget to dot an i then they disallow it. For example, if you have to send in an original receipt or bar code or whatever and they "lose it" you are out of luck.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

For example, if you have to send in an original receipt or bar code or whatever and they "lose it" you are out of luck.

I've actually had them "lose" the original bar code (might have fallen out of the envelope during mail processing at their center or the mail opener neglected to retrieve it from the envelope). Fortunately, I had made photocopies of all materials submitted in the original letter and sent a photocopy of the original sticker panel wtih the barcodes after I got the letter of rejection. They accepted the photocopy and honored the mail-in rebate.

 

[skellener]

Ram cost anywhere form $124-$227 US plus shipping. Driving or looking is not worth my time. Installing ram is easy, yes but once again not my idea of a fun half of hour. Plus what do I do with the old dims? Sell them? No time for that. Now Think of the raw energy used to make 2x 1gb of ram? Now think... if I just let instal my ram, and save the other 2 x1gb sticks, save me time,gas, effort, all that stuff. Is it really that silly? I don't think so. The world is a wonderful place, let instal your ram, lol.

I agree. Right now at least, the 200 bones for 4GB is an easy choice. It's set from the get go.

 

[imac123]

RAM updates

So just to be clear - If I get an iMac w/ the standard 2 GB of RAM today, and in 2 yrs I want to upgrade to 4 GB... will the apple store ppl install any RAM I choose to buy for it??

If so, how much does that cost?

 

[Grokgod]

Well, the 20" did and still does have the TN film panel. The 24" uses H-IPS, same as before.

What exactly does that mean?

I remember that there were some issues with the 24" iMac Lcd's in that they weren't as good as the 20's or was it the other way around?

I have to decided tween the two. 🙂

Of course there is also the overclocked CPU's and heat issues, the posts seem to be going back and forth, on it.

 

[Anaxarxes]

What exactly does that mean?

I remember that there were some issues with the 24" iMac Lcd's in that they weren't as good as the 20's or was it the other way around?

I have to decided tween the two. 🙂

Of course there is also the overclocked CPU's and heat issues, the posts seem to be going back and forth, on it.

Please read the thread. For the last time I would like to stress that neither the CPU, nor the memory is overclocked. FSB is downclocked and multiplier has been raised. The only thing that operates on higher frequency is the NB.

For the screen issue, yes 20" panel is inferior with it's 6-bit TN panel. The viewing angle is narrow, the brightness is low, color production is not millions of colors as Apple states and the response time is high.

 

[nfn]

I picked up a 2.8Ghz 24" last night, and it seems sweet. I haven't had a chance to do much yet, but it doesn't seem to be noisy or hot.

What distance are you from your 24"?
I'm between 20" and 24" and I would like to know if i need a certain distance to work with this LCD.

 

[minik]

Interestingly, this is my first time buying RAM from Apple. I always install 3rd party RAMs myself. I guess I just want to open the box and use it.

I think I can stand the noise from a 3.06Ghz iMac (if any) as I used to have a 'wind-tunnel' G4 and G5 sitting on my desk.

 

[ricosuave]

If this new iMac has the features of Montevina, why are we not calling it Montevina? Because it is not scheduled for a release yet?

 

[Grokgod]

Please read the thread. For the last time I would like to stress that neither the CPU, nor the memory is overclocked. FSB is downclocked and multiplier has been raised. The only thing that operates on higher frequency is the NB.

For the screen issue, yes 20" panel is inferior with it's 6-bit TN panel. The viewing angle is narrow, the brightness is low, color production is not millions of colors as Apple states and the response time is high.

Uhh Whatever....

 

[Anaxarxes]

If this new iMac has the features of Montevina, why are we not calling it Montevina? Because it is not scheduled for a release yet?

No, because it does not have the Cantiga chipset which is the key for Montevinea platform, the PM45. It's still based on PM965.