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So Apple will get them a year late.

They just updated their entry level 13" MBP and the Air a week or two ago. Undoubtedly they knew intel's roadmap and decided to wait it out until next year. Sad.
Apple never seems to update processor until 6-9 months after release. Would be good if Intel had issues but probably likely cost savings buying towards end of generation cycle.
 
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No. LOUD FAN good.

If you were wearing your Apple uniform, the ear pod thingys would prevent you from hearing the fan!

(Hmmm.... they could easily develop fan noise canceling technology. Makes more sense than larger heat sink w/ more and slower air flow...)
 
So Apple will get them a year late.

They just updated their entry level 13" MBP and the Air a week or two ago. Undoubtedly they knew intel's roadmap and decided to wait it out until next year. Sad.

Who knows... next year may bring ARM-based Macs! So it would be worth the wait!
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700MHz base clock. What decade century is it again?

Raw clock speed is largely irrelevant in the age of parallel processing.

700MHz x 4 cores = 2.8Mhz effective processing, with LESS HEAT and BETTER BATTERY life.

I'm not an expert, but this is the general idea.
 
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I love how the all-core turbo is 2–3x faster than the base clock.

Mac users would dream to sustain anything remotely near the advertised turbo frequency.
 
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700MHz base clock. What decade century is it again?
Given the 3.2Ghz max all core boost (and if OEMs include adequate cooling) this could actually be pretty great for a lot of people. Super long battery life when doing light tasks, and the on demand power for occasional heavy lifting—heavy for the average user.
 
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Who knows... next year may bring ARM-based Macs! So it would be worth the wait!
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Raw clock speed is largely irrelevant in the age of parallel processing.

700MHz x 4 cores = 2.8Mhz effective processing, with LESS HEAT and BETTER BATTERY life.

I'm not an expert, but this is the general idea.

I am by no means an expert either but this sounds so wrong.
You can't add Frequency/(M)Hz....
 
700MHz base clock. What decade century is it again?

True... that number looks low. But don't forget the metric "Instructions Per Clock"

My understanding of the theory is... even though it's only going at 700MHz... it's actually doing more work per cycle than an older processor that is clocked higher. In other words... you shouldn't just look at the MHz number.

Apparently Intel finally has some decent IPC gains in this generation.

And remember... that's just the base clock. It boosts to 3.5GHz single-core and 3.2GHz all-core.

Though we should probably wait for benchmarks and real-world tests before we freak out about it... :p
 
Maybe I'm missing something. Isn't the 28W Intel Core i7-1068G7 suitable for the top end 13" MacBook Pro as well? It sounds like a nice upgrade, with WiFi 6, up to 32GB of faster LPDDR4, and faster graphics.

The problem is that Intel did not announce a Core i5 model alongside the Core i7 and Apple doesn't randomly upgrade some configurations and not others the way Acer, Dell, HP and Lenovo do.

Not to mention, Apple is going to want to make sure there is a steady supply of 10th Gen CPUs before updating as they don't offer multiple models in the same daily with 8th, 9th and 10th Gen CPUs.

I would not want to be in the first wave of these anyways after the enormous issues Intel has had over the past 3+ years getting 10nm yields high enough to actually release into the marketplace. As a consumer, I wouldn't go anywhere near a 10th Gen until well into 2020 or Intel announces a stepping revision. Apple is very conservative in this arena as well, so I do not think that we will see Ice Lake updates this year.
 
Can't come soon enough the day that Apple can engineer some A-series chip and release upgrades when the Mac, not Intel, are ready. I could see the MacBook line getting resuscitated as a canary for this
I thought their processors were desktop class generations ago? Tim said they were IIRC.
 
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I hope Dell releases laptops with these chips to keep the pressure on Apple....

Maybe tomorrow?

Apple doesn't compete with Dell...there is no pressure, because that is not how Apple works. Apple will release updated computers when and if they are assured sufficient volume from Intel and they have tested and validated to their satisfaction.

Acer, Dell, HP, Lenovo et al. are stockpiling CPUs to begin building PCs (laptops) for sale in the Holiday 2019 Calendar Quarter (Q4). You won't likely see these advertised until September or October after Back To School has wound down. Introducing them now and not being able to deliver for 2-3 months would kill BTS sales.
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But my reference is a fanless and not an louder Laptop. Like my 2015 MacBook.

The Y-Series in your 2015 MacBook has a 5w TDP, the new 10th Gen Y-Series equivalent has a 9w TDP. This is likely why the MacBook disappeared three weeks ago and won't be coming back for quite a while, if ever, with an Intel CPU.
 
It's a shame that Apple killed the 12" MacBook.

This CPU line-up is probably as good a clue as any as to why the 12-inch MacBook was killed (for now). The 2015 MacBook launched with a 4.5W Y-series CPU. Last year's Y-series CPUs then went to 5-7W. Now we're at 9W. Apple designed a laptop based on the assumption — presumably promised as such by Intel — that Intel would keep iterating on a roughly 4.5W TDP CPU, and they failed to do so, even after this process shrink.

700MHz base clock. What decade century is it again?

This is good, actually. Low clock rates means Intel has some breathing room for future generations at the same process size to offer more performance simply by cranking up the clock rate.

Which TDPs are MacBook pro compatible? All of them?

9W: probably the MacBook Air (which is currently at 7W, but presumably Apple has learnt the lesson not to trust Intel on that).

15W: low-end 13-inch MacBook Pro.

28W: possibly the higher-end 13-inch MacBook Pro, but Apple probably wants more options for that. Also, this CPU model won't ship for a while.

Critically, none of these are even remotely an option for the 15-inch (16-inch?) MacBook Pro, which likely won't see another CPU upgrade until Comet Lake-H in Q2 2020. It'll offer up to ten cores, but it will still be at 14nm and still use a revised Skylake architecture. Still no LPDDR4, even.
 
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