More transistors doesn't necessarily mean better. Also those Xeon parts are like 150W compared to 10W for Apple's.
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Intel Says 10nm Chip Development is On Track
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This is part of the reason I switched back to a Windows based PC almost 2 years ago and after 12+ years with Apple. Since the switch back to Windows, during that almost 2 year period, there has been nothing desktop related from Apple that I'm interesting in or even makes me want to switch back. I'm not an iMac all-in-one fan. Apple's whole desktop line is a complete mess IMO. Sure would like to see some impressive Mac desktop stuff from Apple this month.
Nope they could not.
There is no provision in the A12 for multi socket cache coherency or shared LPDDR4.
AMD's current CPUs are a mix of 12nm and 14nm and expected to be on 7nm in 2019.
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I welcome ARM. Intel chips are designed with poorly architected software in mind. Compilers and operating systems have advanced to the point where you can do as much or more with less. Intel has been consumed with trying to cram everything and the kitchen sink on their chips which is causing more delays and problems that it solves.
Also just because a process not is smaller does not mean better performance or lower power.
Smallers wires means less current capacity. Leakage power is a serious issue as you shrink.
Really? How so?
AMD almost went broke trying to keep up with Intel and owning FABs.
They sold off their FAB tech and facilities year ago.
Intel doesn't seem to be suffering in performance, since the i9 9900K runs at a speed boosted 5GHz.
Name me some other chips that can run at 5GHz?
Don't confuse performance with process node. While the two may have some correlation, they do not need to.
Apple and others need to be at the bleeding edge node for TSMC to get price/performance. They are also at the mercy of TSMC for yields and capacity. TSMC needs to make money so it charges Apple and everyone else a price that gives them the margin they want.
Intel controls the price via ROI on the FAB and wafer cost.
Comparing Intel to TSMC doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Do you understand modern processor design?
Yeah this was the most bogus thing. Apple has consistently been at least one generation behind even when the intel chips are widely available...
Because we all know Apple has a huge presence in corporate IT, and Apple lives and dies on market share.
You really think Windows users will accept that? And I doubt anyone would believe Apple would support x86 that long. I think you made my point.
No, but I think Mac users will accept that. And the point is not whether *you* believe they would support it, it is whether Apple will indeed support it; I believe they will support it for however long they say they will.
So your comment is disbelief of a speculative response to a speculation of Apple moving to ARM...when the topic here is whether Intel can indeed build 10nm chips.
you do realise that those numbers are pretty much just names, right? intel's 10nm (if it works) is better than TSMC's 7nm. so TSMC 5nm is probably on par with intel's 10.
It’s not the delays. It’s the near zero performance improvements. Why dedicate engineers and resources to updating t Intel’s latest steaming pile of crap when it gives no performance improvement and when mst purchasers no longer purchase based on tiny variations in cpu performance?
That's because The Macintosh and computers are no longer a real focus at Apple anymore.
They are iPhone, Inc. now and soon iCar, Inc.
Sorta.
Intel’s 10nm process is targeting 54nm gate pitch and 36nm interconnect pitch.
Tsmc’s 7nm has around 40nm interconnect pitch and 54nm gate pitch.
So TSMC’s 7nm is comparable to Intel’s 10nm.
I don’t think splitting off the x86 platform is a great move. If they can make it compatible with older intel based software then fine, but I don’t think anyone other than the cult will like the sound of this. It’d make a lot more sense to just use AMD’s CPU’s and continue to make the argument for multi-core and multi-thread.
The problem for Intel is that 5G (greater capacity, speed, and very low latency) is on the horizon, which will make thin clients king within 10 years. Intel definitely does not want to be just a cloud server company and cede IoT and computers (phones, tablets, and laptops) to ARM, but at this time, it seems Amazon, Apple, Google, and Microsoft are heading in that direction.
The vast majority of people don’t know intel from Adam. So when you say “the cult” I assume you mean the small minority of individuals who can name three differences between the ARM and x86-64 instruction set.
Because most people won’t care as long as the software they use works.
Sure looks that way. Have you checked out Google Project Stream for AAA game streaming? Looks like they're going to one up Steam by removing the requirement for an expensive PC investment to play AAA games judging by the new $35 Google Chromecast with bluetooth for possible controller connection.
https://projectstream.google.com
https://chromeunboxed.com/bluetooth-chromecast-gaming-project-yeti/
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But will the software that people NEED to use (not Twitter or fart apps) actually work on ARM? Windows on ARM doesn't seem to be succeeding in that regard.
Thanks for the heads up. Looks great. I'll try and see if I can get into the beta later.
Lol people are scoring almost 10k single core and over 50k multi core on 14nm i9 9900k
Intel is still 5 years ahead of anyone and will be on another level when they get 10nm done. You people know that apples 7nm is not even close to being a true 7nm process.
Here for you people that are obsessed with geekbench scores.
Please somebody please name one freaking CPU that can beat an Intel 14nm CPU that is going on 3 years now.
Here for you people that are obsessed with geekbench scores.
Please somebody please name one freaking CPU that can beat an Intel 14nm CPU that is going on 3 years now.