Much of those 96% is such of low margin that it is increasingly uninteresting for Intel. And, it is increasingly ceded to ARM.
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Intel Teams Up With AMD for New 8th-Generation Processors With AMD GPUs
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ARM in the mobile space absolutely. Where I work I need the grunt for Vienna MIR and Vienna Symphonic Library for orchestral music. Intel still rules the world in professional music, video etc. running powerful PCs and (mostly) the metal case Mac Pros. Not seen a trashcan in a pro studio yet. VSL for example is optimised for Windows.
On another note I'm not an AMD fan. One of my laptops the ATI Raid chipset just died randomly, another AMD graphics card gave up the ghost.
Never had such problems with nVidia personally. Although a few years back their foray into nVidia RAID was a total embarassment
Sure, but that's a different market segment — it has very little to do with the chart you showed. The CPUs announced here will cost hundreds of dollars and end up in machines in the $800-$3000 price range. I assure you Windows XP won't run on 6% of them…
Coffee Lake-H hopefully isn’t too far behind these newly announced chips. MBP refresh in late-2018 would be more likely than June maybe?
Not sure of the graphics performance here but based on size and overall power budget I assume it would be downclocked AMD silicon that would be much better than Intel’s iGPU, but less than a conventional discrete GPU.
So would you expect to see a 660 paired with a Coffee Lake-H 6C/12T at the MBP highest end?
So, here's a possibility: in spring '18, they replace the remaining 2015 rMBP model with a new one based on these CPUs. Its GPU won't be as beefy, justifying it being cheaper.
Then in late '18, they refresh the rest (or all, if an appropriate part is offered on Intel's end) of the 15-inch models with six-core Coffee Lake.
I don't much care, honestly. This late 2013 rMBP with an iGPU would be sufficient on the GPU end were it not for high-dpi virtualized Windows — the GPU really starts to struggle there (at least in VMware). So even such an embedded Radeon would be plenty for me.
I much more care about a 32 GB RAM option, and from my understanding, Coffee Lake-H still won't offer that.
It is not an Intel APU whose iGPU is AMD.
It is an Intel CPU, AMD GPU and HBM packaged together.
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So how does that not fit the bill of "an Intel APU whose iGPU is AMD"? The HBM is only for the GPU.
It's literally a graphics chip embedded in a CPU package. It doesn't get more integrated than that.
It is the same kind of chip as in a graphics card, not graphics logic embedded in a chipset or CPU die.
Laptops have discrete graphics chips soldered to the motherboard and you don't call that integrated.
Depending on the CPU specs I could see these new 4-core parts replacing any of the current 15” models, offering mid-level graphics. The 6-core parts could be offered both with the Iris iGPU (lower graphics performance than the 4-core) and with a traditional discrete GPU like Radeon 660 for highest graphics performance, at the cost of battery life.
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Not until Ice Lake in 2019 will Intel support LPDDR4, so there’s quite a wait for that unfortunately.
But the Intel portion may well include an on-die iGPU. That would allow the dGPU to be powered down when not required, iGPU being sufficient most of the time for a lot of users’ graphics demands.
I’m really wondering how Apple’s 15” lineup looks by the end of next year. There are a lot of options, aren’t there?
- current Kaby Lake with HD 630 iGPU only (replacing the 2015 Crystalwell iGPU-only MBP)
- these new Kaby Lake with on-package AMD GPU
- current 2017 MBP, Kaby Lake with dGPU
- new coffee lake 6-core with iGPU only
- new coffee lake 6-core with separate, discrete GPU
#3 would have to stay in the lineup, since otherwise quad core graphics performance would take a step back—unless the #2 parts can offer 555/560-level GPU performance. Can they?
#4 would be nice to have, since not everyone who could use 6 cores needs the highest performing GPU option. It would have better battery life than #5, and could be priced quite a bit lower. But graphics performance would be worse than the #2 and #3 quad cores... decisions, decisions.
If I want to get excited about Intel news, I just look at the press releases from two years ago so I can be pumped for a still "coming soon" release.
Windows is only as good as the 3rd party drivers that are provided for it, and Apple makes sure to cripple performance of Windows every chance they get through Bootcamp specialized drivers.
Also I don't get why people would buy a MacBook to run Windows these days. I mean back in the day MacBook's were nice quality and well designed compared to the clunky black plasticy PC laptops, but today arguably there are nicer and better designed Windows laptops that offer usually better performance than a MacBook running Windows. Claiming that a MacBook is "better" hardware today is epically naive.
Buy macBooks to run macOS, but buy a PC laptop to run Windows, just common sense.
Could this be an answer to Apple maybe switching to its Axx CPU's on their low-end Macs?
I can see an A11 powered Mini and MacBook Air's...
I can see an A11 powered Mini and MacBook Air's...
How many laptops does Apple sell versus the Windows based laptop universe?
Don't be silly, Intel is doing this primarily for their Windows market.
Sure Apple could also be a customer too.
You forgot to make it the "starter" or "basic" version of Windows. Wallpaper cannot be changed without hax.
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It's funny. I work in a shared office space filled mostly with software engineers, and I would have never thought that without looking at the stats. I haven't seen anyone using anything but a Mac. Pretty much the same where I live too.
Why is the Mac marketshare indicating v10.12 only? Did they drop the statistics for earlier macOS versions? For example, I'm staying on 10.9.5 because the fonts on ulterior versions are extremely hard to read on non-retina monitors.
Wut?
Intel needs any help they can get, cause x86 is gonna be an extinct concept in due time. Particularly in the mobile space,
Intel needs any help they can get, cause x86 is gonna be an extinct concept in due time. Particularly in the mobile space,
I know, but that’s irrelevant. The rumors where that AMD was working on the graphics for an Intel processor. Naturally the assumption in the media is that it’s the iGPU, but really something like this makes a lot more sense and wasn’t completely unexpected.