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Bragging rights, my ass. For the apps I use, having four cores instead of two makes a huge difference.
 
Yeah they may - but as the article says it's "bragging rights, not major performance booster".

No point in putting in an expensive, power-hungry processor that makes no real difference to performance as a gimmick to entice people. When the tech is good and ready, Apple will implement it.

In that case....

WHERE THE F**K IS BLU-RAY?!?!

1. BluRay drives are uber expensive, especially the thin slot loading variety

2. Apple wants you to download your High Def Movies from the iTunes Store

3. Not even the 17" Macbook Pro has enough pixels for 1080p and "normal" people feel uncomfortable watching a movie sitting right in front of the computer. And at TV-viewing distance (3+ meters), you wouldn't notice the difference between high def and nicely encoded DVD size except that your Mac would drop a frame here and there on High Def stuff.

4. Mac Pro. This machine is made for making movies. It's totally overkill for watching one. It's also a noisy computer. People that need to watch a BluRay Movie for work usually have equipment better suited for the task (think BL player and huge screens). It's like people burning a CD from downloaded stuff so they can listen to it on the HIFI-Stereo in the living room. The computer plays MP3s just fine but people generally keep their high end audio gear in a different room.

5. BluRay discs are expensive. 10 of those can buy you a Mac Mini and people complain the Mac Mini is expensive...

etc.

Personally, I'd love and external BluRay drive with a H2.64 encoding chips so I could get DVDs and BluRays into iPod/iPhone/AppleTV/Quicktime format quickly wouthout requiring an attached computer. Basically a dedicated Disc ripper/re-encoder. Then again, that's not gonna happen.
 
Many people love their iMacs because they're virtually silent. I'd love my Macbook even more if it didn't have that high pitched idling noise that disappears when I run photobooth.

My Mac Mini is also nicely quiet except when doing GPU intensive stuff because of the way the thing is cooled. I also love the low power usage (I get an average of 12 Watt using it as web- and file server). The connected display is about 180 Watt to put thngs in relationship here :)

They can make a machine that uses desktop chips and is still virtually silent. And I'm not saying they should dump the iMac or even the mini, just that by doing only consumer machines that are in a flashy form factor, they are making some sacrifices in terms of price/performance.
 
Oh, I don't know... I think for the extra $1000 I'm paying, I'd expect my professional notebook to have a bit of a speed advantage over a consumer desktop.


I agree entirely.. MBPs have always been some of the fastest laptops available. I would expect to see a Quad Core MBP for a 2500$ price tag in the near future, although it might not be a bad idea to wait for the "Centrino" platform to be released which would enhance power saving capabilities and possibly help with heat.

I'm assuming these new quad cores will be using the Nehalem architecture?
 
Bragging rights, my ass. For the apps I use, having four cores instead of two makes a huge difference.

What the hell apps do you use? Are you running them simultaneously? There are few pro apps that require more than two cores...:confused:
 
I'm betting on Quad-Core and BluRay as well as a redesigned case in the upcoming revision. At least, I would hope BluRay is at least offered as an optional upgrade. I think the new Quad will only clock in at 44 to 65 watts, right?
 
1. BluRay drives are uber expensive, especially the thin slot loading variety

$125 for a standard SATA drive - standard form factors aren't that expensive.


2. Apple wants you to download your High Def Movies from the iTunes Store

Then they should increase the bitrate on the so-called "HD Movies" from the store - high definition is more than just the pixel count.


3. Not even the 17" Macbook Pro has enough pixels for 1080p...

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html

Optional 17-inch (diagonal) antiglare TFT widescreen LED backlit display with support for millions of colors; optional glossy widescreen display

Supported resolutions: 1920 by 1200 (native)


The computer plays MP3s just fine but people generally keep their high end audio gear in a different room.

LOL - using "MP3" and "high end audio" in the same sentence.


5. BluRay discs are expensive. 10 of those can buy you a Mac Mini and people complain the Mac Mini is expensive...

Where can you find a MiniMac for $200 to $250?

BD movie prices are dropping.... http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=amb_lin...pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_p=331162601&pf_rd_i=blu-ray


Personally, I'd love and external BluRay drive with a H2.64 encoding chips so I could get DVDs and BluRays into iPod/iPhone/AppleTV/Quicktime format quickly wouthout requiring an attached computer.

Many BD movies now have a "digital copy" included, no need to re-rip....

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/digital-copy-dvd-drm-blu-ray-1603.shtml
 
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1. BluRay drives are uber expensive, especially the thin slot loading variety

Yet another reason why it's stupid for apple to be using slot loading drives in desktop machines.

3. Not even the 17" Macbook Pro has enough pixels for 1080p and "normal" people feel uncomfortable watching a movie sitting right in front of the computer.

The bigger iMacs do. And all macs can drive external monitors, including laptops. Also, people want the ability to watch disks they have bought for their living room on their computer as well, even if that secondary use isn't optimal.

4. Mac Pro. This machine is made for making movies. It's totally overkill for watching one.

For starters, you can create movies, but you can't BURN bluray disks either - it would be a great machine for authoring bluray if the machine actually supported the format.

5. BluRay discs are expensive. 10 of those can buy you a Mac Mini and people complain the Mac Mini is expensive...

So?

It's a new and growing format. Apple should support it even if it's only a BTO extra initially. Regardless of any number of reasons you can give for not wanting it, there are people who want and need it and Apple should make it an option. Right now, you can't even add an external drive and play movies, which is pretty awful.
 
Don't know about Milo, but I use Zbrush 3, Maya, XSI, etc. All of which make excellent use of additional cores. More = definately better.
What would take 16 hours to render on a dual core machine could easily go down to 10 hours on a quad core or 6-7 hours on an octa-core.
Bring on the quad MBP's with 8+GB of Ram I say! :D

What the hell apps do you use? Are you running them simultaneously? There are few pro apps that require more than two cores...:confused:
 
What the hell apps do you use? Are you running them simultaneously? There are few pro apps that require more than two cores...:confused:

Logic. That's the hell app that I use. And it definitely benefits from more cores, even including the eight core machines.

Why the hostility? Since you say there are "few" apps then obviously you must be aware that there are some.
 
Yeah they may - but as the article says it's "bragging rights, not major performance booster".

No point in putting in an expensive, power-hungry processor that makes no real difference to performance as a gimmick to entice people. When the tech is good and ready, Apple will implement it.

In that case....

WHERE THE F**K IS BLU-RAY?!?!

Ack. Not another screaming blu-ray argument. :eek:

Blu-ray is right here:

http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsdt_one?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

The one I tried at Staples, when trying to launch Adobe Premier, said:

"A Program Error Has Occured, Windows Vista is Shutting Down..." :eek:

Enjoy your Blu-ray.... :p
 
Blu-ray is right here:

http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsdt_one?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

The one I tried at Staples, when trying to launch Adobe Premier, said:

"A Program Error Has Occured, Windows Vista is Shutting Down..." :eek:

Enjoy your Blu-ray.... :p

Of course: it's Windows :p I'd rather sacrifice the chance to get blu-ray on my computer and use OS X than have a PC. Besides, I have my PS3. ;)

Don't get me wrong. It would be nice to see blu-ray in Macs. But only when they're actually convienent and not power killers.
 
Holy frenchy, this is bomb, C4D baby
No, that would be a C2Q. The Core 3 architecture is likely to be the Nehalem chips slated for 2009 (and possibly late 2008). So the Core 4 architecture, given that the Core 2 was introduced in (I believe) 2006, will not be here until at least 2011. And by then, it will probably be a C4O...

EDIT: Darn, AidenShaw beat me to it...
 
I am so ready to replace my iMac, it's starting to really get up there in age, but there is so much good stuff on the horizon.

Snow Leopard and the new Intel chips sound like they are going vastly improve overall processing speed. I'll set a new goal of Nov '09 and buy the next update after that.

At this point, I'm ready to move up to a Power Mac but those are long overdue for a complete overhaul themselves.

Patience is a virtue, they say.
 
I bought the 24" 2.8GHz C2E iMac when the aluminium models were introduced. Since then, the 3.0GHz C2E with an infinitely better GPU has been introduced. And now this talk about a C2Q mobile CPU. Darn, I should give up reading rumour sites. Reading things like this surely doesn't do any good to my content about my purchase last year.

Alas, such is paradox of choice...
 
Being a rumour site im after a time scale of possible iMac integration... im all set to buy a 3.06 iMac but am now thinking of holding off.

Would the next major Mac event (August/September/October im not sure)??

I don't think we'll necessarily have to wait for one of the annual events.
If it's mainly the processor that's being updated, it's just a press release--could happen any Tuesday. If there are major updates and new products being announced then Apple could schedule a special event rather than wait for one of the annual events.

I, for one, am interested to see if this gets in to the iMac soon.
 
Actually it does but you need a codec to play movies back in WMP11.

See, it's all so confusing. Too much stuff to do before you can get going.

If (when?)Apple were to introduce blu-ray in their machines, it would just work. ;)
 
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