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Dead in the water. The whole point was for it to replace EVERY connector. That and screw having to pay $40 for a dongle that splits the hybrid port so I can have an individual miniDP/Thunderbolt connection.
Devices that are Thunderpants compatible are supposed to have a Thunderpants port of their own. (For daisy chaining aka Firewire style).

Maybe I'm misunderstanding.

fully agree though with the total cave-in to the USB folks.
 
I wonder who holds the patent for the name thunderbolt.. I just saw a commercial for a htc thunderbolt phone.... Wont this become a huge issue... We cant have two products named the thunderbolt




http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/02/23/htc-thunderbolt-details-review-hands-on-video-roundup/

1) you can't patent a name
2) two products can have the same trademark so long as they are either not in the same general product category or, if the trademark is not registered with the USPTO, if the products are sold in different geographic regions
 
As for why Thunderbolt (formerly Light Peak) uses the DisplayPort connector rather than the USB one, The Wall Street Journal Digits blog speculates that USB Implementers Forums wasn't happy about Intel coopting their plug:Meanwhile, Apple designed the mini DisplayPort connector and opened it for free licensing, which may offer some explanation as to its choice.

I say this is a plus. The standard USB connector is one of the most stupid designs — designed to look like it can go in two ways, but in reality can only be plugged in one way. Why anyone would want to stay with this plug design is beyond me!
 
100% straight apple.com refresh...unless everyone is fooled and this 3/2 event is MBP.

The latter would be my preference, really. I like it when Steve come up and introduces Apple products. To all those who think Steve is in serious medical danger, he's not!! He met with the president last week and I expect him to be on the stage March 2nd. And to be honest, I'm on the edge of my seat.

Let me recap my favorite, seeming LEGITIMATE rumors:

  • A Photobooth Application Appearing on the iPad's homescreen in iOS 4.3 software files
  • Front and Rear Facing Cameras... the latter being a maybe...
  • A Better speaker... not the stupid mockup versions
  • Thunderbolt (Light Peak) Implimentation as Implied by a "Mystery Port" on the top of an iPad 2nd Genaration Case
  • Thinner... seems to me it's thin enough but I trust Apple to keep a High Quality Product
  • Lighter... this is a must for me, even if it's only slight
  • A better battery... although I don't see a real need
  • And finally, A higher resolution display... this one can't be classified as legitimate, but it doesn't hurt to wish

But the best of all is a better processor with more memory. This would be my first reason to get an iPad 2nd genaration. It would make the iPad more capable of simple video editing like the iPhone 4 and iPod Touch 4 genaration, and quite easily eat the current iPhone with it's rumored duo core processor. In my opinion, we have much to look forward to.
 
Thunderbolt breakout boxes/adapters should be pretty cheap, if I understand correctly. There's no actual "adapting" that needs to be done - Thunderbolt is already compatible with USB 3/2/1, FireWire, DisplayPort, Ethernet, eSata, and several other signals. All an adapter would be is a sort of splitter, which everyone will be making since they're so simple. Wouldn't be surprised to see several variations of Monoprice [Thunderbolt ---> multiple various ports] dongles as well as Macbook docks for quite cheap.
 
As for why Thunderbolt (formerly Light Peak) uses the DisplayPort connector rather than the USB one, The Wall Street Journal Digits blog speculates that USB Implementers Forums wasn't happy about Intel coopting their plug:Meanwhile, Apple designed the mini DisplayPort connector and opened it for free licensing, which may offer some explanation as to its choice. We're certain to hear more details Thursday.

...But USB was designed by Intel? I guess they don't have enough clout in the USB Forum to get them on board. Honestly I don't see why they won't combine USB and Thunderbolt since a cable of Thunderbolt could theoretically carry two USB 3.0 devices on one cable. Just sell an adapter that splits your Thunderbolt port into a couple of USB 3.0 ports, and you'd be USB 3.0-ready. And an idea of Thunderbolt was to have one cable that hooks up to your monitor and peripherals to your computer (kind of like how the Cinema Display has a Magsafe, USB, and DisplayPort cable come out of it. Maybe DisplayPort is already Thunderbolt in disguise?).

I'm sure things will be cleared up tomorrow. The ridiculous lighting bolt mark is still discerning for me.
 
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Nobody even talked to me about this whole new Intel trademark deal!
 
As for the mini display port: I never figured out what the benefits should be. Every meeting room I went so far, has a projector with a VGA input. As a user, I have to always carry an (overpriced) adapter. What for?

Benefits are a more compact connector, a digital signal, and support for higher resolutions. Apple's not the only company using mDP; Dell, HP, and Toshiba have all started using it as well (although, in their cases, they offer it in addition to HDMI).
 
I just bought a Toslink Audio Optical cable for $6.

Toslink is orders of magnitude slower than what Lightpeak is going for. The max bandwidth is 125Mbps, or nearly 100 times slower than 10G Light Peak. Toslink uses LED sources and fat plastic fiber, LED sources max out at around 600Mbps; they simply can't be modulated faster. The next step is to use lasers, which is what 10G Ethernet uses. But fast lasers can't put out much power, so you need to couple them into good fiber (50um or 62.5um multimode glass fiber, usually, but high quality graded index plastic fiber is being explored). Then you need optics to focus the beam and line everything up, not to mention more expensive higher speed electronics on both ends- both analog and digital. Before you know it, you have something outside the consumer price range.
 
Thunderbolt breakout boxes/adapters should be pretty cheap, if I understand correctly. There's no actual "adapting" that needs to be done - Thunderbolt is already compatible with USB 3/2/1, FireWire, DisplayPort, Ethernet, eSata, and several other signals. All an adapter would be is a sort of splitter, which everyone will be making since they're so simple. Wouldn't be surprised to see several variations of Monoprice [Thunderbolt ---> multiple various ports] dongles as well as Macbook docks for quite cheap.

based on this diagram, I don't believe thunderbolt will magically make a format not supported by the host computer work (ie USB 3)
http://www.9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/light_peak_slide.jpg

The router is what breaks up the signals on chip and sends them to the right controller/sata port/gpu/whatever
 
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