No way that I will be paying near £2000 for dual core machine
Quad or naut!
What do you specifically require quad core processing for?
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Intel to Ship Dual-Core Sandy Bridge CPUs on February 20th
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What do you specifically require quad core processing for?
You and the so called "professional customers" are only a tiny niche.
General public demands > professional customers demand because of the scale.
Revenue from addressing general public demands far exceeds the demand by you and the so called "professional customers".
Apple's goal for revision is to please as many customers as possible, not just you. From product management standpoint, Apple is playing their cards right.
So new chipsets with the fix available mid-Feb, with the CPUs available on the 20th Feb... otherwise known as mid-Feb.
So basically, Apple will be getting the new dual-core SB CPUs, along with the fixed Cougar Point chipsets. Easy as that, and as a high-profile, high-volume OEM customer of Intel they will get priority.
Essentially the whole problem with Cougar Point won't be an issue for Apple.
So basically, Apple will be getting the new dual-core SB CPUs, along with the fixed Cougar Point chipsets. Easy as that, and as a high-profile, high-volume OEM customer of Intel they will get priority.
Essentially the whole problem with Cougar Point won't be an issue for Apple.
I don't understand how anything you just said translates to not having the option of equipping your BTO MBP with a quad core. Thereby meeting the demands of the general public AND professional customers.
Indeed, you know Dual core is plenty good enough for Apple users who don't understand these things.
Leave the quad and more cores to those sad PC nerds.
For quad-core you'll have to wait for Ivy Bridge. Either way, don't expect it to arrive until late 2011 at the earliest, but Q1 of 2012 in all probability is more likely.
For Virtue specifically, if you don't need a new system now, then just hold out for IB, else get something now to hold you over until IB, as there is no sense in waiting 8-12 months just to use OSX Lion in a reasonable way.
That's solid advice.
Also, whatever MBP's Apple has on deck by the end of October is their product lineup for the rest of the holiday shopping season, so don't expect any upgrades just before X-Mas if they happen to introduce the Ivy Bridge processors for the first time by the end of autumn.
Not happening because the chips get too hot and Apple targets 35w for their MBP's to help optimize battery life. We'll see quad's in Ivy Bridge, as they'll fit within the 35w spec.
LOL!
That does seem to be the case here, which if proves to be true then it's great for those chomping on the bit over this next refresh.
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Hmm.. I don't quite get this.
Why are there new Dual-Cores for the MBP's ?
There are allready models with dual-cores, even with quad cores.
I thought the new MBP's would all feature Quad-Cores or so...
The new dual-core CPU's are more powerful & efficient than the first generation i3/i5/i7 chips.
In fact, some new SB dual-core CPU's have better benchmarking scores than the first gen quads.
To be honest, I wish people would look at the broader picture. SB chips should give us more grunt whilst consuming less power. That's a win, surely?
Those moaning that quad-core isn't the standard need to get a reality check.
Why don't people stop speculating and wait until the announcement anyway? There's nothing to really talk about until we have hard facts from an announcement. Then people can bitch and moan.
My new PC is held up until the motherboards recieve the updated chipset from Intel. At the heart of my new PC will be a i5 2500K quad-core beast
I have a need for the power though as I'll have multiple VM's running and all sorts of stuff...
They have done in the past (see i5/i7). Apple held on to C2D because of the nVIDIA issue, but with Sandy Bridge Intel have actually made a reasonable integrated GPU for once. Apple can therefore dump C2D and switch to i3/i5/i7 across the board, using Intel GPUs for the baseline and a discrete solution for higher end.
That's fine and dandy if you want to compare new chips to older technology, sure it looks great, but what about comparing it with what could be possible with current technology that's available? Doesn't look as impressive then. Like I said in my previous post, having the "option" would be nice. Surly, that would be a much bigger "win" by anyone's standards I would think.
I do agree though that we need to wait for something official before jumping to conclusions. Though if we did that, this site wouldn't really live up to it's name now would it?
ok lets say apple will get the new SB chips in mid-feb , but they will need sometime to test it and integrate it to the MBP , so im not guessing on a March release nor April
That's fine and dandy if you want to compare new chips to older technology, sure it looks great, but what about comparing it with what could be possible with current technology that's available? Doesn't look as impressive then. Like I said in my previous post, having the "option" would be nice. Surly, that would be a much bigger "win" by anyone's standards I would think.
I do agree though that we need to wait for something official before jumping to conclusions. Though if we did that, this site wouldn't really live up to it's name now would it?
I think people need to stop obsessing over the latest and greatest. I'm certain quad-core chips will be an option on the MBP's, but the drawback to a performance gain is heat & battery life. Dual-core chips seem to tick the boxes for the vast majority of users needs, you get performance, less heat & you will last longer when running on battery.
There's nothing my 2010 MBA hasn't been able to accomplish so far and it uses a 3 year old C2D for goodness sake.
Same here!! Bring on that Mini with Sandy CPUs, dual or quad and I'll jump on it straight away...
And what do you need dual-core for?
I mean what kind of question is that...
Answer: for WORK!
They will have had test units for a long time now, it's not like the official release is when they first get their hands on them, it's just when they can order for production.
And what do you need dual-core for?
I mean what kind of question is that...
Answer: for WORK!
It was a simple question, what do you do that requires quad-core processing and makes the purchase of a £2000 dual-core machine a no-go?
You stated this, I am just curious as to why this is.
That's the date when they can release products with those CPUs. Production of MBPs has most likely started already. If Apple started producing MBPs on Feb 20th, we would be waiting at least another few weeks for the update so Apple could meet the demand.
Aww man, this is really confusing and a little bit frustrating for someone who doesn't have the knowledge about hardware etc.
I really need a new mac/macbook, my old one said "goodbye" couple months ago and my backup PC just can't handle all my photoshop/illustrator madness ^^
So far my plan was to buy one of the upcoming MBP's but now I'm uncertain again. So many different opinions on whether it should be a Dual or Quad Core... sigh.
Why did you copy/paste what I said? Bizarre.
Well yes, of course we won't see refreshed notebooks on the 20th Feb. Apple will have engineering samples though, so the testing time won't be as long as you think, it's more about ramping up production to build up stock. I can see a launch in March being feasible.
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I need extra CPU for my HTPC and Elgato eyeTV HD setup, so iX is what I'm after.
Extra RAM would be nice, min 4GB.
SSD would be cool too; all my iTunes library/iPhoto Library is on FW external, so large storage is not a must. Give me 64GB for cheaper $$!
I agree. A faster CPU would be great. I'd seriously consider getting my third Mini if it's a decent upgrade though I may wait a while longer.
That would be nice, but with the 2010 mini you can easily upgrade the RAM yourself. I expect this will be the same on the 2011 mini. So if I intend to upgrade the RAM myself, in some ways I'd prefer them to keep the RAM at 2GB and add value in other areas of the hardware.
Frankly I think you are just bored...
Someone who is buying PRO machine (like MBP for example) for near £2000 isn't buying it to browse the net or to do text editing!
I am video, audio and graphic professional who requires as much 'horse power' as possible in a portable computer and for near £2000 I would expect quad core CPU and very close to the top of the range mobile GPU. This, of course, could be BTO option - I am fine with that
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By the way, we are just about to witness dual-core CPUs of up to 2.0Ghz on each being implemented into mobile phones! http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/07/ti-looks-to-transform-mobile-devices-with-multi-core-omap-5/
That is not exactly too far from my current 2007 MBP - hence my previous statement 'quad core or naut!'
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