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Asus is well know for having better hardware quality than Apple
1280x800 vs the ipads 1024x768
I can plug in my cameras memory card if I want to show friends pictures on a larger screen.

Seems like more bias Apple fanboy comments.

Looks like you are "well know" for arguing about iPads in a forum about a Mac Book Air wanna-be. Mac book airs have SD card slots.
 
Here we go again. The industry trying to follow the MBA.

Hey Intel . . . even if it's .00004564666 mm thinner than the thinnest MBA, it still aint running OS X.

Nope, it will be running Windows 7, like 400,000,000 other computers. It should be easy for even the most jaded to see that it will be running a quality operating system, just like the MBA, only more common. What's your point?
 
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..... Asus (through their subsidiary Pegatron) builds hardware for Apple. Therefore, the hardware quality of an Apple product is a reflection of Asus' build quality.

Asus is listed as having the most reliable computer hardware in the world, Apple comes in at Number 4.
 
Asus is listed as having the most reliable computer hardware in the world, Apple comes in at Number 4.

False.

That was one study, tracking only returns from a third-party warranty repair scheme. And the differences were statistically insignificant.
 
>Those requirements have, however, pushed up the cost of those components beyond that of the modular ones typically used in PCs, resulting in Ultrabook pricing coming in at the same levels as Apple's MacBook Air. >

Hahaha... but, but, I thought Apple hardware was more expensive "just cuz"?
 
..... Asus (through their subsidiary Pegatron) builds hardware for Apple. Therefore, the hardware quality of an Apple product is a reflection of Asus' build quality.

Whatever Pegatron builds, it is to Apple's specifications, not Asus'.

I wish that Apple had kept the entry-level white MacBook, too. It was the best value proposition Apple had, particularly for college students and others who may want both an Apple product at a lower price and the flexibility of having a CD drive and other connections. The 11" MBA just can't fill that hole in the lineup.
Apple has form here. The iPod Mini was far and away Apple's best selling iPod and was unceremoniously dropped for the iPod Nano aka Scratchgate. Apple is a business first and foremost. It really doesn't care what its customers think as long as its customers spend.
 
Jeez... how did Asus come into the conversation? Has anyone used some of their laptops? I don't doubt Asus' quality. What I do doubt is their design.

Some of their laptops have horrible design choices. Just horrible. I know most PC manufacturers have "bargain-basement" products, but anything over a grand needs to feel like it's top-quality.
 
Asus is listed as having the most reliable computer hardware in the world, Apple comes in at Number 4.

1) I never said that Apple's reliability being a reflection of Asus' was reflected in any metrics.

2) You're discussing one study from a single very specific source. This study is as effective as Consumer Reports' reliability surveys.

3) Not only is the surveyed pool too specific to be extrapolated onto a larger scale, the margin of difference between Apple's and Asus' is too insignificant to actually matter.

4) Furthermore, what were the criteria in the study? If malfunctions related to accidental damage were also part of the study, then it completely invalidates the premise of the study.

Now, I don't mean to doubt Asus' quality or anything. I rather like Asus. But that study is just stupid.
 
Jeez... how did Asus come into the conversation? Has anyone used some of their laptops? I don't doubt Asus' quality. What I do doubt is their design.

Some of their laptops have horrible design choices. Just horrible. I know most PC manufacturers have "bargain-basement" products, but anything over a grand needs to feel like it's top-quality.

I agree with this. A laptop in the $1200 -1500 range especially should feel like a top quality product. The hardware should be smooth and refined, not clunky. The display should be of good quality, ditto for keyboard and trackpad. IMHO, I feel that the trackpad and display is where every non Apple notebook is lacking. Asus in particular has the cursor jump if you hit the space bar wrong or too hard. I don't have this problem on a Mac. And Apple has the best touchpad in the business. I think some of the other companies make some laptops with great potential, such as the Samsung 900 series and the Sony Vaio Z. It would only take a bit of tweaking to make them top notch all around.
 
I really felt the last updated MBA was aggressively priced for what it is. Now this just proves it. Let's hear that Macs are overpriced now?! :rolleyes:

It is really interesting what Apple has learned about starting new markets these days.

They did it with the iPad and now with the Macbook Air.

They aggressively price their devices, but still make large margins because of the purchasing deals they make and the fact that they produce the hardware and software.

It seems to be working well for them. It is weird as we are all used to the Apple premium for products, but the new dynamic seems to be Apple is able to produce quality products for so much less that they can provide high quality equipment and sell it for less than anyone else can for a comparable device.
 
Hardly surprising. Apple's MacBook Air pricing has been very aggressive since the Rev D. For the price, you get a very light notebook and for people looking at size and weight as specs, there's hardly anything out there to compete with it.

The iMac and Mac Pros are super overpriced though.
 
It is really interesting what Apple has learned about starting new markets these days.

They did it with the iPad and now with the Macbook Air.

They aggressively price their devices, but still make large margins because of the purchasing deals they make and the fact that they produce the hardware and software.

It seems to be working well for them. It is weird as we are all used to the Apple premium for products, but the new dynamic seems to be Apple is able to produce quality products for so much less that they can provide high quality equipment and sell it for less than anyone else can for a comparable device.

And you hit the nail on the head, it's the purchasing deals that they made. The MBA doesn't cost them much more to make than one of the plastic notebooks sold buy others, but they make a couple of hundred dollars more profit on the item. They might be spending $100 more wholesale and getting $300 back retail. Apple sells a notebook for $100, it cost them less than $500 to produce. The other companies are spending that much to build a computer to sell for $700.
 
Also after looking it up, it cost Apple $718 to make a Core2Duo 11in Air. and the $999 price on that is considered a "hefty margin". Percentage wise its one of the biggest margins Apple has on a notebook.

There is really no reason that a competitor can't market theirs at $899 or $949. It all depends on how much/fast they want to make up on R&D.

The competitors can't make a similar device for $718. That is the problem. It costs them $1050 to make the same device.
 
Add to this that Apple has had the first mover advantage for a couple years now. Hard for others to excel unless they can undercut Apple or outperform them.

Very true.

Stil, that ASUS looks very nice.. time to start investigating...
 
(got to be careful with the term "PC" as Macs using the Intel chip are "PC"'s too).

I always thought that PC stood for 'Personal Computer' not Windows or Intel. A Power Mac was a PC as are Linux computers on any processor.

Since it is easier to say PC than Windows or WinTel, a lot of people have, incorrectly, equated PC with Windows or Intel.
 
Some of their laptops have horrible design choices. Just horrible.

Care to back that up at all? Or is it just another random pie-in-the-sky statement. Let's see your facts. "Horrible" is about as helpful as "magical".. .though considering where I am, its use makes sense.

And you hit the nail on the head, it's the purchasing deals that they made.

Yep. I really think we're seeing the end of the "Apple is too expensive" days.
Which is just excellent really, because this is REAL competition. I'm a Windows man, but I really want to see Apple do well, because Microsoft hasn't really had decent compeition in the OS market for years.

Of course, I still will never buy an Apple product ;)
 
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