I am so ready for the switch to Apple designed ARM chips
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Intel Unveils 10th-Gen Processors Suitable for Next 16-Inch MacBook Pro With Wi-Fi 6 and Turbo Boost Speeds Above 5GHz
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Agreed. I do wonder what they will do for GPUs on these ARM things, though.
For sure - Ice Lake, 28W, G7 Graphics - it might run a bit better if they increase the chassis size a-la 15>16-inch and improve cooling. It will most likely not make a huge difference, at least not this 2020 generation.
Except that their A-series only supports one and only one I/O port. Not even thunderbolt. No discrete GPU connection possible. If want to build a one port Macbook follow on ( iBook or iPadOSBook ) they have got something.
But if look at Intel PCH chip Apple really doesn't have much of anything comparable. Well they just buy an PCH like chip from ASMedia like AMD does. They could but .... no connection for that either on the A-series. Can they add all that stuff ? Yes . Do they have copious spare time and resources? .... hmm A12x -> A12Z and a warmed over iPad Pro early 2020. Maybe not.
The A14 is going to be extremely good at being primarily an iPhone SoC. The A14X will likewise going to be extremely good at being primary an iPad Pro SoC. Most of Apple's ARM powered offerings though are done with "hand me down" variants. A subset of Macs could work with "hand me down" variants too but would highly likely not be sufficient to actually cover the functionality of most of the Mac line up.
Yep, if you want A-series chips just buy an iPad, that is where Apple is going. If Apple does make an A-series Mac then it won't be much different than an iPad with a small screen, keyboard, and mouse.
We have no idea what the new A-series chip will support. We do know that they have revved the model number by 100 for the first time, so it will likely be a big change over prior chips.
Oh how I wish there were a way to wager on this...
I think you are going to be dead. flat. wrong.
I am not expecting Apple do to this, but it is hard to ignore seeing 14-inch notebooks that are thin, have 6/8-core CPUs, and have NVIDIA Max-Q GPUs. Now they likely have awful battery life, who knows, but if the 14-inch MBP is just a "large" MacBook Air that runs at a higher clock, it will be kind of disappointing, even if it can run at turbo for longer sustained time.
If a Rocket Lake-U with Xe iGPU ever becomes a reality, you might just get your wish...
I don't expect the 14" MBP to be anything more than what you described but with the added bonus of having support for 32GB RAM.
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Macs wouldn’t use A-series, and the T2 is effectively a PCH. They will have been working on what they need for several years.
If limiting the 10980HK at the same lowered threshold as the 9980HK what different results are going to occur?
Maybe 1-5 seconds of Thermal Velocity boost before it shuts down on some single threaded drag racing benchmark?
If throw multiple core workload at the same limiter not likely to see any significant difference.
It would be naive to think it’s for lack of trying. They are hitting the limits of what they can do.
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Say that to Intel’s R & D department. 😆
My best guess is overly complex chip design that's helped give them an edge up until now, but is really not playing nice with shrinking down further, while simpler chips haven't hit the same wall yet. If that is the case, they're going to struggle to carry a lot of beneficial proprietary design bric a brac forward any further. Otherwise I can't see why they alone have hit an apparently near insurmountable roadblock while others are carrying on - and at this point most certainly further down the line, whether the nodes, density etc are directly comparable or not.
I much rather see AMD chips in Macs than ARM. I could understand a hi-breed Mac/iPad Pro or even the MacBooks with ARM.
It doesn't sound so smart to be radiating yourself and any family members with wi-fi, when you could be doing the same thing safely with a cheap wired ethernet cable.
As far as I'm aware, LPDDR4 will only be used in Intel's 10nm mobile processors. This processor is still on 14nm
That is a contributing factor to why it is taking so long to "unwind" from the corner they painted themselves into.
But getting into that corner is more so about the limits of Intel organization of people and there interaction ( and groupthink ) than of physics.
TSMC did a step between 14nm and 7nm. It was an inbetween 10nm ( not too many folks used it ).
Intel tried to jump straight from 14nm to 10nm ( which although looks like the 10nm of TSMC it isn't. It is just as far as the 14nm -> 7nm transition that TSMC did. )
[ also after Intel hiccuped a bit on the 22nm -> 14nm transition. ]
When Intel was whipping AMD pretty badly they were on a tick-tock cycle. One cycle do major tweaks to microarchitecture and other cycle more focused on shrink to new process. This is good because actually explicitly limit complexity. Too many moving parts and adjustments and things can fall through the cracks (and tend to run out of time to fix things right because of testing interaction echoes and ripple effects. ). Variation of K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid).
What Intel did was change multiple things at once on the process side . And the arch at the same time. And apparently threw some sanity checks out the window. More a mix of arrogance and laziness than physics.
The Physics is getting harder so a rigid tick - tock schedule on a rigid 24 month release timeline isn't likely to hold up. But what need is a steady stream of base hits and once in a while huge 600ft home runs. When things get even harder need more functional decomposition and higher management of complexity. Not less.
"So in the end what do you have? About as close to nothing new as you can get and not have the OEMs laugh at the new stickers they need to put on the ‘updated’ laptops. The 10-Series -H parts code named Comet Lake bring nothing new to the table other than a feature tweak and tighter binning. In the real world you can expect a 100MHz speed bump for fleeting milliseconds at peak turbo on some SKUs and that’s it. Did we mention AMD’s Ryzen 4000 Mobile parts beat the same chip with a 9-Series sticker on it like a drum? "
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Intel launches 10-Series -H ‘Comet Lake’ mobile CPUs
Today Intel is launching the 5th rebrand of Skylake mobile called the 10-series mobile -H aka Comet Lake.
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Well, the return period is now 14 days after stores reopen. That's not going to happen for a while at least.
Hoping for a big bump here. My 16" MBP is slow as an old dog and runs the fan at a a high rate when it comes to spreadsheets and other heavy lifting. And that is with a max'ed CPU and 16 GB memory. Working from home is revealing more and more how the MBP line just isn't cut out for a technical business.
And what's up with the screen confusion. I have two HDMI monitors hooked up, and they start flashing, changing resolution, and dropping a couple of times per day, especially after waking up after going to sleep mode. Come on Apple!
Too much GUI and not enough muscle.
And what's up with the screen confusion. I have two HDMI monitors hooked up, and they start flashing, changing resolution, and dropping a couple of times per day, especially after waking up after going to sleep mode. Come on Apple!
Too much GUI and not enough muscle.
What a joke. It took 8 months to release 10th gen CPU while other 10th gen series already released around last August and yet the improvement is seriously minimum.
Increasing the maximum clock speed is meaningless especially for laptop series cause it can not reach and then sustain that speed. They dont even have a plan to replace 14nm till 2022! Just throw those garbages away.
This is why Apple needs to ditch Intel as soon as possible
Increasing the maximum clock speed is meaningless especially for laptop series cause it can not reach and then sustain that speed. They dont even have a plan to replace 14nm till 2022! Just throw those garbages away.
This is why Apple needs to ditch Intel as soon as possible