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Apple won't attend

So what is happening?
the MacWorld Expo already happened Janu. 9th-13th?
Or it's gonna happen Jan. 9th-13th this upcoming year?
Confused,..
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At next years Macworld in Feb 2010 Apple will not be attending they will not have a stand or be doing any keynotes. Apple have already stated they will not be attending any Macworlds from March 2009 onwards.


Apple Announces Its Last Year at Macworld

CUPERTINO, California—December 16, 2008—Apple® today announced that this year is the last year the company will exhibit at Macworld Expo. Philip Schiller, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing, will deliver the opening keynote for this year’s Macworld Conference & Expo, and it will be Apple’s last keynote at the show. The keynote address will be held at Moscone West on Tuesday, January 6, 2009 at 9:00 a.m. Macworld will be held at San Francisco’s Moscone Center January 5-9, 2009.

Apple is reaching more people in more ways than ever before, so like many companies, trade shows have become a very minor part of how Apple reaches its customers. The increasing popularity of Apple’s Retail Stores, which more than 3.5 million people visit every week, and the Apple.com website enable Apple to directly reach more than a hundred million customers around the world in innovative new ways.

Apple has been steadily scaling back on trade shows in recent years, including NAB, Macworld New York, Macworld Tokyo and Apple Expo in Paris.

Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the Macintosh. Today, Apple continues to lead the industry in innovation with its award-winning computers, OS X operating system and iLife and professional applications. Apple is also spearheading the digital media revolution with its iPod portable music and video players and iTunes online store, and has entered the mobile phone market with its revolutionary iPhone.
 
New processors replace the previous generation at the same price points. The 32nm processor is going to allow more processors per wafer but prices aren't going down.

Stupid, if that's the case. Usually smaller wafers equal a smaller price from what I have seen about computer parts.
 
Stupid, if that's the case. Usually smaller wafers equal a smaller price from what I have seen about computer parts.

What happens is that they keep the same price points but at different bin distributions. Remember that when you fab a chip you get a distribution of frequencies. The highest binned parts go for $X, the next go for $X*0.7, etc.

So when you shrink, you get more chips, but it also radically affects the bin distribution, particularly at first, before the process is perfected. Over time new chips move into the high bin, but the price of the bin stays more or less constant.
 
Yes, I mean the GPU. The current 9400M/9600GT combination is really good because you get good graphics (on the standards of integrated gfx) and battery life with the 9400M, and for the extra horsepower, all you need to do is switch to the 9600GT. With the IGP, you will either have to disable it and not get the advantage of integrated gfx power consumption when you need it, or enable it and have bad graphics in power saving mode instead of decent graphics like you had with the 9400M.

I agree that's all true. But I thought you were suggesting you wanted to see an Arrandale without an IGP. And the question was, what would be the point of that, when the IGP can be disabled and you get the same thing?
 
I agree that's all true. But I thought you were suggesting you wanted to see an Arrandale without an IGP. And the question was, what would be the point of that, when the IGP can be disabled and you get the same thing?

I"ll take a wild stab at it :)

hopefully less included "features" and less transistors, etc. would make it slightly cheaper. Also, if they were to offer such a chip, maybe somehow there would be a chance of seeing a different (possibly better) chipset (either from Intel or a competitor like NVidia) as an option for integrated graphics.
 
What happens is that they keep the same price points but at different bin distributions. Remember that when you fab a chip you get a distribution of frequencies. The highest binned parts go for $X, the next go for $X*0.7, etc.

So when you shrink, you get more chips, but it also radically affects the bin distribution, particularly at first, before the process is perfected. Over time new chips move into the high bin, but the price of the bin stays more or less constant.

Awesome. Thanks for explaining that.

Well that sucks. :p
 
Why not? I quit AMD in Nov. of 2006, the last quarter they made a profit :)

Its ALL your FAULT!!!

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SO I can already buy a top of the line HP dv8t for 1/2 the price of a MBP, and it has i7 CPU. Why should I buy a MBP?
 
I guess I haven't read it anywhere but will Apple's Grand Central and Open CL function with Intel itegrated graphics? If not then Apple would have to add discreet gpu from ATI or Nvidia, otherwise what would be the point of GC & OCL? I would think it would benefit laptops and other small form Apple computers the most, which would be most likely to use integrated gpu's...

First, Grand Central Dispatch has nothing to do with the graphics card at all. Grand Central Dispatch makes it possible to distribute works between different threads on your CPU or CPUs both with little work for the programmer (important because otherwise it doesn't get done) and efficiently (so it makes it possible to use all your CPU power without having to do hard programming work).

OpenCL is different: When you write OpenCL code, the operating system will look on your system for any resources that can execute that code; these resources will be the CPU or CPUs, and all sufficiently good graphics cards. This is mostly intended to do jobs that your average 8 core MacPro is afraid of: The programmer has to invest a bit more time in programming, but then you put one or two high end graphics cards in your MacPro and it will run at crazy speed. MacBookPro with a decent graphics card is good enough to develop that kind of software.

Any Intel integrated graphics card is likely not compatible with OpenCL, and definitely not powerful enough to make it worthwhile. On the other hand, MacBook + Integrated Graphics + decent discrete graphics would be very useful for that kind of application because you can use the integrated graphics for display and use the discrete graphics card to run OpenCL.

OpenCL is not for everybody, and the people who need it will buy their computers accordingly.
 
Any Intel integrated graphics card is likely not compatible with OpenCL, and definitely not powerful enough to make it worthwhile. On the other hand, MacBook + Integrated Graphics + decent discrete graphics would be very useful for that kind of application because you can use the integrated graphics for display and use the discrete graphics card to run OpenCL.

Of course, considering the insignificant amount of graphics computing power required to run the desktop environment and a couple of GUI'ed up apps, this would only be marginally faster than getting that same decent discrete graphics card to perform both this and the OpenCL processes the apps entail.

Which means really, whether or not Apple use the Intel integrated graphics or not makes no difference. If by disabling the iGPU Apple can clock the real GPU a couple of MHz higher, it will probably be worth it. Considering Apple are sure to include discrete graphics of some sort across the range, making the iGPU unnecessary.
 
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