nice. i don't know if apple will use these or not, but the mac pro needs to be updated in January for sure
So what is happening?
the MacWorld Expo already happened Janu. 9th-13th?
Or it's gonna happen Jan. 9th-13th this upcoming year?
Confused,..
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New processors replace the previous generation at the same price points. The 32nm processor is going to allow more processors per wafer but prices aren't going down.
Stupid, if that's the case. Usually smaller wafers equal a smaller price from what I have seen about computer parts.
Yes, I mean the GPU. The current 9400M/9600GT combination is really good because you get good graphics (on the standards of integrated gfx) and battery life with the 9400M, and for the extra horsepower, all you need to do is switch to the 9600GT. With the IGP, you will either have to disable it and not get the advantage of integrated gfx power consumption when you need it, or enable it and have bad graphics in power saving mode instead of decent graphics like you had with the 9400M.
I agree that's all true. But I thought you were suggesting you wanted to see an Arrandale without an IGP. And the question was, what would be the point of that, when the IGP can be disabled and you get the same thing?
What happens is that they keep the same price points but at different bin distributions. Remember that when you fab a chip you get a distribution of frequencies. The highest binned parts go for $X, the next go for $X*0.7, etc.
So when you shrink, you get more chips, but it also radically affects the bin distribution, particularly at first, before the process is perfected. Over time new chips move into the high bin, but the price of the bin stays more or less constant.
Awesome. Thanks for explaining that.
Well that sucks.![]()
I should have also mentioned that each time they shrink they re-outfit the fabs; someone has to pay for those fabs, and for my salary![]()
I thought you were a patent lawyer?
I designed microprocessors at AMD and Sun (and PowerPC's for a company called Exponential Technology) for more than a decade. Lawyering is a very recent change.
Why?
Why not? I quit AMD in Nov. of 2006, the last quarter they made a profit![]()
SO I can already buy a top of the line HP dv8t for 1/2 the price of a MBP, and it has i7 CPU. Why should I buy a MBP?
I guess I haven't read it anywhere but will Apple's Grand Central and Open CL function with Intel itegrated graphics? If not then Apple would have to add discreet gpu from ATI or Nvidia, otherwise what would be the point of GC & OCL? I would think it would benefit laptops and other small form Apple computers the most, which would be most likely to use integrated gpu's...
Any Intel integrated graphics card is likely not compatible with OpenCL, and definitely not powerful enough to make it worthwhile. On the other hand, MacBook + Integrated Graphics + decent discrete graphics would be very useful for that kind of application because you can use the integrated graphics for display and use the discrete graphics card to run OpenCL.