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zap2 said:
i would hope the PB don't see intel for sometime becuz while the might have raw speed over the G4s when it comes to 3rd party Pro-apps for Vidoe and Pic editing the emulator for PPC on intel will be slower the G4 PB.
For intel iBooks raw speed would go up and since less vidoe and pic editing are used by iBook owners , the negative of intel would not be felt(or be felt less)

idk....We've heard some great things coming out of the Rosetta camp lately like near RT emulation w/ Altivec support.
 
mduser63 said:
I really hope the first Mac to be switched to Intel is the Mac mini and that it includes Front Row (2.0?). If that's the case, I'll order one the day they're announced. I don't need a new Mac right now, as my Power Mac and PowerBook have me well covered. But, if an Intel Mac mini is announced, I'll buy one partly so I can have an Intel Mac to play around with, but mostly because I'd love to have a little Media Center Mac in my room.

yeah, give me a dual core Mac Mini and i'm in line too... =)
 
iGary said:
I think I just threw up in mouth a little™.

There, there, Gary, all good things must come to an end.:( I can see you may be amoung the few who will need a Prozac because of withdrawals when you all rip the "Intel Inside" stickers off your new mac.
 
This is so exciting. :) I'm glad I have made the switch to the Mac. I can now witness the Intel switch officially. That is if it even happens next month. My hopes are extremely high, especially with numerous rumors all claiming the same thing. I just hope the Mac mini is the first one to receive the switch. I'd buy one. :D
 
Pro Apps Ready?

Has anyone thought that maybe, just maybe, Adobe and some/all of the other key players in the real value of a new Intel mac already have their programs ported and optimized? I'm sure Adobe has their hands on a few Dev kits. Just because no one's announced any Universal Binary programs doesn't mean they aren't ready. Who's ever though of releasing software when there's no hardware to run it on? Adobe may have a copy of Creative Suite 2.5 in Universal Binary sitting on the shelf ready to be run on intel as we speak. What good would it do them to announce it? Sure, it might make a lot of people say, "Hey, if Adobe's ready, I'll start coming up with the bones to buy one of these intel macs." Either way no one will buy UB software w/o a machine to run it on (unless of course its a new version that's been released in UB, but I don't see a new creative suite w/in the month or even w/in the next six).
 
~Shard~ said:
January 6th, huh? Hmm, a few days before the Keynote, what a coincidence... :cool:

Is Intel as excited/interested in having us as we are about them? I mean, does Intel care that much what Apple has to say at MWSF?
 
snoboardguy21 said:
Has anyone thought that maybe, just maybe, Adobe and some/all of the other key players in the real value of a new Intel mac already have their programs ported and optimized? I'm sure Adobe has their hands on a few Dev kits. Just because no one's announced any Universal Binary programs doesn't mean they aren't ready. Who's ever though of releasing software when there's no hardware to run it on? Adobe may have a copy of Creative Suite 2.5 in Universal Binary sitting on the shelf ready to be run on intel as we speak. What good would it do them to announce it? Sure, it might make a lot of people say, "Hey, if Adobe's ready, I'll start coming up with the bones to buy one of these intel macs." Either way no one will buy UB software w/o a machine to run it on (unless of course its a new version that's been released in UB, but I don't see a new creative suite w/in the month or even w/in the next six).

I wouldn't be surprised if Adobe, like you said, already have patches set to release. I don't have the CS2 suite, but I do have CS1. I would imagine they would take care of both CS1 and CS2 user. Or at least I hope they would...
 
snoboardguy21 said:
Has anyone thought that maybe, just maybe, Adobe and some/all of the other key players in the real value of a new Intel mac already have their programs ported and optimized? I'm sure Adobe has their hands on a few Dev kits. Just because no one's announced any Universal Binary programs doesn't mean they aren't ready. Who's ever though of releasing software when there's no hardware to run it on? Adobe may have a copy of Creative Suite 2.5 in Universal Binary sitting on the shelf ready to be run on intel as we speak. What good would it do them to announce it? Sure, it might make a lot of people say, "Hey, if Adobe's ready, I'll start coming up with the bones to buy one of these intel macs." Either way no one will buy UB software w/o a machine to run it on (unless of course its a new version that's been released in UB, but I don't see a new creative suite w/in the month or even w/in the next six).

Prepare to get assaulted on bringing this up in here. People around here have been arguing about this, specifically Adobe, every since the Intel announcement, with some strong voices against what you are hoping for.
:p
 
Chaszmyr said:
but only about half of the computer market uses Intel processors...
Links, please?

Are you talking about x86 desktops? Servers? Smartphones? PDAs? TiVos? Automobiles? All processors?

"half Intel" seems pretty low if you're talking about x86 laptops....
 
That should be fairly straight forward, G4s are dinosaurs, living on extra borrowed time. Anyone who seriously thinks that G4 based laptop can compete with a machine containing recent Intel p-m ( or AMD ) mobile processors need a reality check.

If these processors being released beginning of January there is no reason why Apple can't start shipping x86 laptops in a relatively short period of time afterwards. Apple have had time to build a laptop and OSX is ready.


Prom1 said:
I think Steve Jobs will be well received if he can proove with hard facts that the Intel cpu can outperform the G4 in the latest edition of the PowerBook, and the design of the new PowerBook looks out of this world.

Strange though how the PowerBook will get the Intel chip, while the PowerMac's have the Dual Core PPC MP's.

strange times indeed.
 
snoboardguy21 said:
Has anyone thought that maybe, just maybe, Adobe and some/all of the other key players in the real value of a new Intel mac already have their programs ported and optimized? I'm sure Adobe has their hands on a few Dev kits. Just because no one's announced any Universal Binary programs doesn't mean they aren't ready. Who's ever though of releasing software when there's no hardware to run it on? Adobe may have a copy of Creative Suite 2.5 in Universal Binary sitting on the shelf ready to be run on intel as we speak. What good would it do them to announce it? Sure, it might make a lot of people say, "Hey, if Adobe's ready, I'll start coming up with the bones to buy one of these intel macs." Either way no one will buy UB software w/o a machine to run it on (unless of course its a new version that's been released in UB, but I don't see a new creative suite w/in the month or even w/in the next six).

I'm sure that Adobe will have a CS version ready to go when Apple debuts Intel machines in their pro lineup. From what I've read, Intel in the PB is still questionable at this point, and since the Yonah really is a portable chip, there won't be an Intel desktop until at least mid to late 2006 when Dothan is released. While it would be nice, it really isn't critical for Adobe to have a universal binary version of CS ready for Mac minis and iBooks. That said, I'm sure Adobe is diligently working on it. You can bet they've had access to the most recent builds and prototype hardware before any other outside vendor.
 
What sucks is that now, if intel based computers aren't announced 6 MONTHS before publicly stated, people are going to be disappointed.
 
India?

Why the heck would Intel launch a hotly anticipated chip in India? I can see a lot of venues that would make sense, but India does not make my short list. Can someone tell me what I'm missing?
 
AidenShaw said:
Ummm.... Not likely.

Do you realize that the 95% of the market is also waiting for Yonah - and that their software is already ported and optimized for Intel?

This post make me ROTFLOL.... 20% market share - LMAO.
Yeap, I guess you are right. My Wacom Tablet driver is already Intel/PPC ready. :D
 

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AidenShaw said:
Links, please?

Are you talking about x86 desktops? Servers? Smartphones? PDAs? TiVos? Automobiles? All processors?

"half Intel" seems pretty low if you're talking about x86 laptops....
He's just making up statistics to prove a point. 46% of people do that. :D

This thread is great news. I think apple will ship the macs close to straight away. "Shipping in two weeks" perhaps? :cool:
 
epepper9 said:
This thread is great news. I think apple will ship the macs close to straight away. "Shipping in two weeks" perhaps? :cool:

I'd say February myself, but I guess we'll see. Regardless, the Intel Macs are coming sooner rather than later, and I'm very excited to see how things unfold in this brave new Mac world.
 
How long after they are released will it be noticable if they are stable or not? As much as I want to go buy one the day they come out.....I don't want to drop 2000 bucks on something that is buggy.
 
supersalzme said:
How long after they are released will it be noticable if they are stable or not? As much as I want to go buy one the day they come out.....I don't want to drop 2000 bucks on something that is buggy.

With Apples previous performance with revs, I say rev C. Then again its hard to predict since we do not know the update cycle, as it could be frequent in the future than what it used to be in the past with PPC. :)
 
thejadedmonkey said:
if apple can make a laptop that has a 2 button mouse, that would convince me to switch. What a way to convince a kid to get a job...

So excited!

I have one with my Rev. C 12" PowerBook.
What you say?
:)p)
iScroll 2. Best_app_ever_and_a_reason_to_overuse_underscores_

:D Linkety
 
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