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Intel Yonah Processor Launch on January 6th?

NewbieNerd said:
When we don't see Intel Powerbooks until 2007
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I'm going to guess the Intel PowerBooks (and probably Intel PowerMacs) will debut at WWDC in June 2006. Most of the people going to that conference use PowerBooks, it's kind of a natural place. MacWorld 2006 seems too early (with new iBooks and other stuff announced there, I don't think they'd want to dilute the message by introducing too many new CPU designs), and MacWorld 2007 definitely seems too late. WWDC is probably a date they can hold people off for, while giving them enough time to refine an entirely new design with the greater engineering demands of a PowerBook enclosure and higher-performance processing.
 
HiRez said:
I'm going to guess the Intel PowerBooks (and probably Intel PowerMacs) will debut at WWDC in June 2006. Most of the people going to that conference use PowerBooks, it's kind of a natural place. MacWorld 2006 seems too early (with new iBooks and other stuff announced there, I don't think they'd want to dilute the message by introducing too many new CPU designs), and MacWorld 2007 definitely seems too late. WWDC is probably a date they can hold people off for, while giving them enough time to refine an entirely new design with the greater engineering demands of a PowerBook enclosure and higher-performance processing.
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You can only do so much with a Laptop design case as you have to design with the screen in mind. Until the screen gets flexible then you might have more options. ;) :)
 
~Shard~ said:
Apple will need to step up and keep pace with the rest of the Intel world now - marginal upgrades every few months is not going to cut it. If PC users have the latest and greatest technology in their PCs, the Mac community isn't going to find it acceptable to have to wait for months to realize the same benefits. It will be interesting to see how Apple handles this and adjusts.
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I agree but in many ways Apple has a much better natural chance to "keep pace" now because in the past many of the holdups have been caused by chip/part availability problems (500 MHz G4, 3 GHz G5, portable G5, etc.). That will no longer be a problem measured vs. other Intel-inside products. If they use stock Intel motherboards, so much the better (although I have my doubts on whether they will).
 
maya said:
You can only do so much with a Laptop design case as you have to design with the screen in mind. Until the screen gets flexible then you might have more options. ;) :)
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Either that or projectable... a laptop screen that "floats" above the laptop. Now THAT would be awsome.
 
JFreak said:
IF indeed Apple wants OSX to only exist in Apple-branded hardware (at this point anyway), then the easiest would be to build a custom memory controller and code OSX to require its presence. Hardware lock, that is. Therefore... I think that Apple builds custom motherboards as long as they want to keep OSX for themselves.
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And what goes along with this is the "Release into the Wild" of an officially supported Intel- OS X 10.4.x revision that cannot be successfully hacked/cracked to run on non-Apple hardware.

I've not been following that challenge too particularly closely, but it was my impression that the score was something like "Hackers 2, Apple 0" as of ~3 weeks ago: Here's a news article reporting that Intel-10.4.3 was cracked in a fashion similar to crack of Intel-10.4.1

YMMV on how robust the hardware lock will need to be in order for Steve to be willing to let the MacTel's be sold on the street. But at present, the door to the OS barn seems to be slapping very loudly in the breeze, which suggests later rather than sooner.


-hh
 
Sunrunner said:
Either that or projectable... a laptop screen that "floats" above the laptop. Now THAT would be awsome.
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Very :D. And would make a certain amount of sense, too: Some kind of focusing system that could project onto a screen like you describe for individual work, or project a onto a nearby wall for group presentations. There are probably a fair proportion of laptops that are frequently hooked up to a projector for group presentations.

Projectors still cost several hundred pounds, though - I think we are a few years away from this being a viable design choice.
 
Peace said:
In a few years the standard screen will be holographic.;)
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"Argghh vertical lines on my screen". "No, dude, the vent's just clogged, stick your finger in there and fix it. "Ok." *zap*. *fry* :D
 
snoboardguy21 said:
Has anyone thought that maybe, just maybe, Adobe and some/all of the other key players in the real value of a new Intel mac already have their programs ported and optimized? I'm sure Adobe has their hands on a few Dev kits.
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Even if they do, there will still be a bit of a delay before it's released, as Adobe will want to do one final QA pass on the actual shipping hardware. (Also don't forget how slow they were about things like an OSX-native photoshop...)
 
Sunrunner said:
Either that or projectable... a laptop screen that "floats" above the laptop. Now THAT would be awsome.
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and not possible (Now), and would be open to other's seeing your work, and would be a massive battery drain. Such a thing may someday be common in home computers. Forget it for mobile ones. Well maybe if they ever get the whole cold fusion thing down. Maybe neutron generators. :p

Personally I'd be happy with a rollup screen that becomes ridged when a light electrical charge is run through it.
 
HiRez said:
I'm going to guess the Intel PowerBooks (and probably Intel PowerMacs) will debut at WWDC in June 2006.
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PowerBooks, possibly, PowerMacs, definitely not. Apple is waiting for Conroe/Woodcrest for the PowerMacs, and as a result, we will not be seeing any Intel-based PowerMacs until 2007. They will be the last Mac to transition. :cool:
 
aegisdesign said:
...and yet still run Windows on it. Oh the irony... :eek:
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Yes, the irony is that I have to keep a window machine just so I can program my Aladin Air dive computer....and yes, another irony: my network brother printer/scanner only scans via ethernet with Windows, but only via USB on the Mac :rolleyes:
 
Amen brother...

NewbieNerd said:
IDEs are for wimps. vim baaaaby!! :p
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Im right there with you. And while I am at it I would just like to say, "screw emacs and its kitchen sink!" :D

PtMD
 
dernhelm said:
You might see this anyway. I could see Apple biting into some of the marketshare held by Alienware and companies like that. Contrary to popular belief, there are a lot of windows users that would pay for good engineering and style. Now don't get me wrong, Apple is not targetting Alienware (nor should they!), nonetheless, a side effect of this transition is that people will by Apple machines and install XP on them. And many of those people are the same people who wouldn't be caught dead with a Dell or HP.
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i could be very well be one of them; if i can't run my windows only apps on a reasonably fast XP emulator, i don't care much about OSX.

...and before you go BOOOOO, just consider i've been a loyal apple customer since 1992, but i just need to run a few apps that are currently windows only.

On the other end, i strongly believe the computer market is gone from elite/geek to general population in terms of prices, and people obviously prefer to have a beautiful object instead of an abomination whether it be an mp3 player, a desktop, a laptop, a DVR...
 
HiRez said:
I'm going to guess the Intel PowerBooks (and probably Intel PowerMacs) will debut at WWDC in June 2006. Most of the people going to that conference use PowerBooks, it's kind of a natural place. MacWorld 2006 seems too early (with new iBooks and other stuff announced there, I don't think they'd want to dilute the message by introducing too many new CPU designs), and MacWorld 2007 definitely seems too late. WWDC is probably a date they can hold people off for, while giving them enough time to refine an entirely new design with the greater engineering demands of a PowerBook enclosure and higher-performance processing.
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you're forgetting the Paris expo in september, Steve unveiled new products there before; i guess it mostly depends on the merom / conroe roadmap as well as software optimisation though...
 
Luxury! I used to....

ScubaDuc said:
Yes, the irony is that I have to keep a window machine just so I can program my Aladin Air dive computer...
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Luxury - I remember when I used to keep a dual-boot Windows95 system on my laptop so that I could boot into DOS to run Datatrak in real mode on the serial port...

I was so happy when they finally released a version that would run in 32-bit protected mode!
 
Sunrunner said:
Either that or projectable... a laptop screen that "floats" above the laptop. Now THAT would be awsome.
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For one it will have a very limited life before you have to change the bulbs on it, resolution will be terrible, power consumption would go through the roof, a lot of eye strain in the process of reading text.

Good luck with a projector or holographic screen. Those are great for alarm clocks, something that is a monochrome colour. Anything else will give you a headache after only a few minutes of use. ;) :)
 
SuperChuck said:
Why the heck would Intel launch a hotly anticipated chip in India? I can see a lot of venues that would make sense, but India does not make my short list. Can someone tell me what I'm missing?
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definitely not going to be exclusively india, but they were mentioned probably because some of the minds in the huge R&D center they have in bangalore most likely had some part in making this chip. intel is planning to invest $1 billion in india though. Link

why would video programs run any slower on MacTels? if all apple apps are Intel ready then they should be running just fine?
 
Why all the talk about Adobe not releasing Intel versions until 2007? Chizen stood on stage at WWDC and said Adobe would be first in line with a new suite of application just like with the OS X transition.

Although, Chizen did sound like he was kinda drunk if you go back and listen to the webcast.:rolleyes:
 
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