personally, I see the PB as the first with an Intel chip, at least the first laptop. Why would apple make a big deal about how much power we're going to gain with this switch to intel, only to not wow us off the line. Powerbook opens the door with the fastest intel chip the Yonah family has to offer, then later on release slightly slower, and/or single core ibooks, keeping a definitive line between the two product lines. Mark my words, they'll have to go big first. in the mac community right now, you can't get bigger than a new generation Powerbook (G6?).
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Intel's 2006 Processor Roadmap
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~Shard~
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jdechko said:
Yes, I see this as being very likely as well. Jobs did say that there were still some "exciting" products in the PC pipeline, so perhaps they will release another PPC PowerBook in the very near future before going to an Intel one mid-2006.
I wonder what will become of the Powermacs... Another G5 speed bump, or perhaps a BIG announcment regarding them with Intel chips at MWSF! Then again, perhaps the heavy-duty Intel chips Apple has its eye on for the PowerMacs will not be available until later in 2006, getting back to the whole Intel roadmap and everything... Who knows, perhaps we will see a 3 GHz G5 after all! And ironically, it may just end up being the PPC's swan song,.... 😎
andiwm2003
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so we get chip predictions for mid 2006. that means real machines for end 2006 earliest. seems i gonna go g5.
but in the long run there will be exciting stuff. low power consumption makes for small slim silent macs with lots of power at low prices. can somebody say iHome? 😀
but in the long run there will be exciting stuff. low power consumption makes for small slim silent macs with lots of power at low prices. can somebody say iHome? 😀
jdechko said:
Actually, Jobs said that we'll already have intel macs in the market by that time next year. Slight difference, but I think the wording was planed to buy them time in case. After he got burned with the 3 ghz fiasco, I'm sure he's being cautious.
~Shard~
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Websnapx2 said:
Makes sense. The PowerBooks have seen only marginal increases in speed the past few updates, and could really use an overhaul to truly make them PowerBooks again - let alone to definitively separate them from the iBook line again, as the lines are subtly blurring more and more it seems. It is my belief one of the drivers behind this move to Intel involved the fact that Apple can't put G5s in laptops, and Jobs recognized that the portable situation needed to become a top priority. It seesm like this is one of the main advanatges of switching to Intel, so why wouldn't Apple capitalize on this as soon as possible? Like I said, makes sense...
autrefois
macrumors 65816
Lord Kythe said:
Just imagine if you had tried posting that last year. You would have been flamed to death and/or banned for life. 😀
If what Intel does works as well or better than what IBM does, that's good news. I don't like IBM or Intel, so it makes little difference to me as long as the computers work!
january sounds nice, but will they wait for EM64T?
i've been reading stuff here for a long time, but now i feel compelled to post. wouldnt it make the most sense for apple to wait until mid-2006 for the merom chips for laptops, ensuring that their entire lineup uses EM64T? They could introduce consumer macs earlier using current EM64T Pentiums and (uggh) Celerons, but having one model of 32-bit intel processors holding back programming for the next 5 years just to get powerbooks out a few months earlier seems like a really bad trade to me. I think apple should go straight 64bit with intel.
i've been reading stuff here for a long time, but now i feel compelled to post. wouldnt it make the most sense for apple to wait until mid-2006 for the merom chips for laptops, ensuring that their entire lineup uses EM64T? They could introduce consumer macs earlier using current EM64T Pentiums and (uggh) Celerons, but having one model of 32-bit intel processors holding back programming for the next 5 years just to get powerbooks out a few months earlier seems like a really bad trade to me. I think apple should go straight 64bit with intel.
This is really encouraging to me. I've felt that the current Intel products just aren't enough for Apple, but now that we've got a roadmap telling us that Intel is making new, better chips, I'm relieved with the whole situation.
-Chase
-Chase
I have no real loyalty to any tech company but Apple, and that's only while they progress the OS X platform on there machines, controlling the whole "widget" package. As far as components, as long as the products are created with them in mind and we are not just installing drivers left-right and center a-la Windows side of computing, I really don't care if it's Motorola, Intel, or heck, Texas Instrument. Make it fast, make it work, and don't compromise. It seems as there was a lot of that going on the last few years with the PPC. This was a ballsy move and it just might have payed off.
Right Direction
I think that this shows that Apple Definitely made the right decision going with Intel.
I think that this shows that Apple Definitely made the right decision going with Intel.
Wonder Boy
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animefan_1
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MacNut said:
Apple has been working on a PowerBook G5. Who's to say they can't take some of the now defuct PB G5 design and apply to a 'YonahBook'.
animefan_1 said:
I'm guessing they will, and I'm guessing that with each Intel Mac they'll do a complete redesign to separate the PPC and Intel lines. I'm not sure how they'll top their current designs (I never am), but they will no doubt, and it'll be spectacular.
-Chase
SiliconAddict
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Hello Celeron!!
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Get ready folks. The first mini's and ibooks will have single-core Yonah's that are Celerons. I ain't happy, but read the article and decide for yourself. I feel dirty just thinking about a Mac with a Celeron in it.
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Get ready folks. The first mini's and ibooks will have single-core Yonah's that are Celerons. I ain't happy, but read the article and decide for yourself. I feel dirty just thinking about a Mac with a Celeron in it.
SiliconAddict
macrumors 603
macorama said:
Probably not. If Intel releases the chip in January Apple is going to have to compete with everyone else for the dual core Pentium M's. So in all likelyhood its prob going to be less of a wait then it was with the G4/G5 but it won't be instantaneous. I'm still holding fast to a MW announcement with a March-April release. 😀 We've waited this long for a "real" POwerBook update. We all can wait a few more months after MW. Granted its going to be hell. Everyone be sure to stock up on valium and thorazine for after MW in January. 😀 😀
SiliconAddict
macrumors 603
niffer said:
Celeron is just a name. 🙄
Yonah = Pentium M = Good CPU = Damn good Mac update that blows away the G4.
how does this compare to the new PPC ones IBM announced recently? You know, the ones that actually could allow for the fabled pb G5, and was part of IBM's saying, uh, no apple, we're able to do that stuff too...
SiliconAddict
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Wonder Boy said:
You do realise that heat issues are no longer an issue right? If Apple FUBARs an Intel Powerbook they deserve to go out of business. We aren't talking brain surgery here. The industry has been on the M for years now. The chipsets for the M have been out there for years. There is more then enough experience at Intel to help on this transition and doubtless that Apple probably had that specified in their contract with Intel too. This isn't some custom chip that only Apple and Moto\IBM knows about. This is what the industry uses.
The bottem line is if Apple can't put out a "quality" product first time around people damn well better stop talking about Apple quality.
GilGrissom
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I see your point. But the Mac Mini has a good case to be one of the first. Apple can make it even cheaper, and it is one of their flagship swictcher models. Would make sense to make it one of the first to get the new Intel phase switching started. Plus I think it will be technically easier than a PowerBook.Websnapx2 said:
(In terms of space I think a PowerMac will be easier! But I suspect there are some BIG plans for the PowerMac...and I hope PowerBook too, which is why I think it will be July and later, maybe September.)
Hehehe....me too!!iWillard said:
SiliconAddict
macrumors 603
dontmatter said:
Who knows. Unless IBM has been producing samples its all vaporware on their part. $10 says IBM was full of crap with that announcement. They probably have the designs for it but I'll bet money they didn't have anything being fabed. Also note that IBM's mobile "stuff" was single core. These are dual core CPU's. Watch as IBM puts out a notice "Oh FYI we also have mobile dual cores G5's that Apple never asked us about." 🙄
SiliconAddict said:
(EDIT: Sorry, I wasnt sure about Steve's wording, about having them already out in june 06).
However, I still believe that the 'books will come out in june; the timing seems consistent with previous releases of hardware.
SiliconAddict said:
True, and until we (the mac community) gets a better powerbook, the complaining will continue.
I also agree with you Silicon, that the mobile g5 chips aren't real. Jobs would have had that information in making his decision to leave IBM. Either IBM was way behind on the project and has since caught up or they're lying to protect their reputation. Im betting on the latter.