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Intel's Broadwell Chips for Most Macs Not Shipping Until Early to Mid 2015
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No, not 30% faster. 30% more efficient. That means Broadwell will use less power to get the same amount of work done. Overall performance will only be slightly better at the same clock speed.
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Ah well, Apple lost a huge share in the market of professional editors and designers and many of them are used to wait for years before a significant update would come. Mac Pro for example. And I'm not sure if that thing sells, so far I see people jumping over to Windows with as much power as the new Mac Pro for less money.
The only thing that favors the new Mac Pro versus older models is it's lack of making noise which is good and Thunderbolt II for those using Thunderbolt devices and that the most expensive version is indeed impressive as for handling 4K video material. As for gaming it's been beaten by much cheaper PC's.
I'm saving money up tough for buying a new Mac Pro when my current Mac Pro will be to slow to handle the tasks, somewhere in 2015.
The only thing that favors the new Mac Pro versus older models is it's lack of making noise which is good and Thunderbolt II for those using Thunderbolt devices and that the most expensive version is indeed impressive as for handling 4K video material. As for gaming it's been beaten by much cheaper PC's.
I'm saving money up tough for buying a new Mac Pro when my current Mac Pro will be to slow to handle the tasks, somewhere in 2015.
What would be the benefit?
Edit: And are you talking about 2-4 times the cores with A8 variants? As in, a dual core being replaced with 4-8 cores of A8?
This would break compatibility with OS X apps. Apple's apps would be ported and ready, but other third party software would need time.
If you are a causal user this isn't a problem, but those that use Adobe products or other specialized software may have to wait. And even if third parties have ARM compatible products they are almost never as capable as their Intel versions. (Like Adobe LR or Office on iPad compared to the desktop versions)
It can definitely work, but there will be a transition period that may not work for many users.
Darn, and u was looking to buy an imac. Was just waiting for the next update.
If the chip for the iMac won't be ready until July 2015, that'll be almost 2 years since a significant update. Wow.
Apple has more money than most countries...perhaps they should just make their own chips in the future.
Anywhoo...guess it'll give apple more time to perfect the retina in the iMacs.
If the chip for the iMac won't be ready until July 2015, that'll be almost 2 years since a significant update. Wow.
Apple has more money than most countries...perhaps they should just make their own chips in the future.
Anywhoo...guess it'll give apple more time to perfect the retina in the iMacs.
If they do, Apple could very quickly change over to them. It isn't like it would take much more than some drivers.
For the 15 rMBP, there are other things I'd like to see improved. A big one is the power efficiency of the display. I'm pretty sure a huge part of the battery is used to power the display on this particular machine, so I think progress here could really improve battery life and/or reduce the weight of the machine. That's my biggest wish for this machine, and I think Apple might get part of the way there even without a more power efficient processor.
You do realize that AMDs chips are i86. More so Intel adopted AMDs 64 bit extensions. It should be easy for Apple to deliver an AMD powered Mac. The ideal fit here is the Mini.
So we can get Broadwell next summer, or Skylake next autumn? Well that's pretty much a no-brainer. Maybe Intel will artificially delay the release of Skylake if they're that close together. Even 1Q 2016 would sell through a bit of Broadwell stock.
Am I the only one hoping that we're on the verge of some breakthrough in laptop/desktop chips? I feel like they haven't be keeping up with the same pace of mobile chips. My mid-2012 retina MBP isn't much different than any of the current machines two years later. I remember my 2008 MBP had a Geekbench around 3000 and my 2011 MBP had one around 10000. Only reason I upgraded early was for the retina display in 2012 (that and a fat stack of college graduation money), but even then I think the benchmark went up to 12000. Perhaps that's just Moore's law starting to fail, but surely we could start stacking heaps of low-power arm chips into these machines by the dozen? Perhaps that could bridge the gap until quantum stuff is feasible. Then we can start arguing about specs in qubits!
Am I the only one hoping that we're on the verge of some breakthrough in laptop/desktop chips? I feel like they haven't be keeping up with the same pace of mobile chips. My mid-2012 retina MBP isn't much different than any of the current machines two years later. I remember my 2008 MBP had a Geekbench around 3000 and my 2011 MBP had one around 10000. Only reason I upgraded early was for the retina display in 2012 (that and a fat stack of college graduation money), but even then I think the benchmark went up to 12000. Perhaps that's just Moore's law starting to fail, but surely we could start stacking heaps of low-power arm chips into these machines by the dozen? Perhaps that could bridge the gap until quantum stuff is feasible. Then we can start arguing about specs in qubits!
Ha! Well I'm glad I didn't wait to buy a rMBP (13).
And this issue simply verifies that Apple will be making its own A-series chips within the next 5 years (IMO) - Intel is awesome, but too slow for Apple's ambitions (or Jony's, for that matter...).
And this issue simply verifies that Apple will be making its own A-series chips within the next 5 years (IMO) - Intel is awesome, but too slow for Apple's ambitions (or Jony's, for that matter...).
From my understanding Intel is an entire generation ahead in it's fab plant abilities with AMD still ramping up 20nm across it's manufacturing abilities.
I don't necessarily expect it to happen, but there are 4k laptops out there, aren't there? "Wake up please" seems a bit over the top. And the potential graphics update isn't crazy either.
Depends! AMD would be a good fit in the Mini, as you get substantially better GPU performance in their integrated chips. The Mini has never delivered top end Intel performance either so you won't miss much CPU wise. In the end AMD has good products for at least some of Apples platforms.
I don't know much about the technical aspect of this, but if it is easy enough for Windows to run on AMD or Intel, is it all that hard to imagine Apple doing this? They built using both Motorola and IBM for a while, right? Are there pitfalls to a Balkanization of the processor manufacturers other than uniformity?
I am really hoping to see something more than a processor bump in the next rMBP. The current gen is "beefy" enough for my needs, but I'm interested to see if there are any other innovations up Apple's sleeve, or at the least a price drop or higher capacity RAM/SSD as standard. I'm sure whatever they roll out it will leave me wanting to upgrade enough that I still consider the next model up.
Anyone know when the back to school promotion ends? If they make an announcement in September I'd like to weigh my options. No announcement, I assume it's not going to happen soon.
Out of curiosity, what are the benefits of 4K display on 13/15inch screen? Are there benefits of 4K display (as of current state of things, rarely any 4K content) on a laptop I am not thinking of?