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Intel's Cannonlake Chips Allegedly Delayed Until End of 2018
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Mmm, Apple could come out with a handful of killer features that would justify an upgrade even if it weren't just more processing power.
How about OLED display with ProMotion? How about FaceID unlock? There's certainly a lot more they can innovate on the mac than just CPU power.
Intel's fab problems will likely end up being TSMC's fab problems at some point. This sort of thing will crop up more and more as feature size decreases. In other words, it's not the architecture that's holding back the release of their chips. Apple will eventually run into this wall with the A-series.
macOS and iOS are very closely related. macOS doesn't run on ARM processors on any publicly available products, but I would be very surprised if Apple doesn't have that combination running in private.
ARM originally started on desktop computers. I wouldn't be surprised to see it return.
I'm certain macOS, and most if not all first-party apps, are already running just fine on A-series chips (in Apple's labs).
It's getting all of the old third-party stuff moved that's the real trick. This is part of the point of Swift, etc., and why iOS binaries are delivered in intermediate code instead of raw machine code. As developers transition to newer tech it will be easier for Apple to abstract the hardware.
Office 365 (Word, Outlook, Excel, etc.) is already running on the A series CPUs via iOS on the iPhone and iPad. In fact, it's a pretty good revenue stream for Microsoft (via subscription).
Also... it's probably cheaper for Apple to deliver a high-core-count A-series chip than it is to pay Intel for an equivalently-performing CPU. Unless Intel realizes this and is selling to Apple at very low margin (to keep market share).
makes me wonder why apple was so cheap to upgrade the camera on their notebooks.
it's a no brainer that they make this happen and thus making your laptop a thing of the past.
Hmm MS Office, is the biggest piece of **** ever! Bloated, slow, dumb and out of it's depth.Without Office on the mac the Mac would do just fine.
Some people might think that a computer that can not run office is not a computer but they usually are locked safely up at night lol
Intel should just skip the generation that is slipping and focus on the next generation to be available on schedule or even earlier.
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If Microsoft pulled Office from the Mac, then I would switch to Corel Wordperfect Office on Windows just to deny Microsoft the revenue of Office. Wordperfect Office has that ugly shareware skin on it but I would do it out of spite.
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If Microsoft pulled Office from the Mac, then I would switch to Corel Wordperfect Office on Windows just to deny Microsoft the revenue of Office. Wordperfect Office has that ugly shareware skin on it but I would do it out of spite.
There have been several demos of Windows 10 on ARM running win32 applications via emulation, Im sure Apple can figure out a way to do it as well. I remember reading that intel was looking to prevent that from happening.
Something really weird is happening with the 10nm manufacturing process. It will probably be a huge step up in performance/power consumption, but delay after delay... It seems like it will never come.
I've made my choice, and won't wait any longer. This month I'm getting a 2017 nTB MacBook Pro, with a pair of beats
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Heck, iOS was based on former OS X versions, and Forstall and his team managed to make it run on ARM Processors... all the apps in the iOS App Store are ARM based. I honestly don't see a reason why in some years it cannot happen.
I've made my choice, and won't wait any longer. This month I'm getting a 2017 nTB MacBook Pro, with a pair of beats
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I think it will happen, eventually.
Heck, iOS was based on former OS X versions, and Forstall and his team managed to make it run on ARM Processors... all the apps in the iOS App Store are ARM based. I honestly don't see a reason why in some years it cannot happen.
It's so cute the tech press continues to write this after each Intel delay.
One day it will be real, I'm sure - ONE DAY!
If Apple's Ax processors were even close to handling the general purpose workload on Mac, it would already be in those products.
It's ridiculous reading comments from posters who think Geekbench scores are representative of typical workloads. Ask guys like Linus Torvalds what he thinks of GB.
It's ridiculous reading comments from posters who think Geekbench scores are representative of typical workloads. Ask guys like Linus Torvalds what he thinks of GB.
Yeah, because this constant missing of schedules is somehow Apple's fault. And it's also Apple's fault for not planning ahead to incorporate Intel chips that may or may not be released on schedule (or actually perform). It definitely feels like deja vu to the days of Apple-IBM-Motorola alliance PowerPC chips debacle. Then what happened?
Yeah, yippie - we will lose all apps again, just like we did with PPC, OS9 and the intel-switch! Can't wait.
No it wouldn't. Apple would not dream of switching until it can competitively run existing workloads. They didn't switch to Intel until they could run laps around PowerPC.
I haven't really followed up on processers in ages. However, am digging the "lake-style" naming scheme... Cannon lake, Coffee lake, Ice lake. What's next.. Mortar lake? Cappuccino lake? Iceberg lake?
Everyone here does know they can't compare Geekbench on ARM and X86, right?