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So...if you want to sell, or if one of these new-fangled machines break, how do you make sure none of your stuff is left on them? Right now I just replace the hard drive and install a fresh copy of the OS. Done.
 
Am I the only one perplexed by the claim of "three times more storage capacity" and an initial offering of a 256GB drive? When I saw the headline I expected the smallest capacity to be at least 1 TB.
 
Cost Increase or Decrease

It'll be interesting to see how the price of 3D NAND flash compares to its 2D predecessor. I can't help but think it'll be more expensive, but I guess it could help to lower the price per gigabyte. Upgrading the 15" Retina MacBook Pro from 256 gigabytes to 768 for $200-$250 would be nice.

What you you think?
 
Introducing the iPhone 7:

On a 2 year contract, the iPhone 7 will start at $199 for 16GB, $299 for 64gb and $1199 for 1TB.

We think you're going to absolutely love the most advanced iPhone ever.
 
I wonder if Tim Cook himself could afford the 10TB SSD upgrade that we'll see in three years.
 
I can't help but think it'll be more expensive, but I guess it could help to lower the price per gigabyte.
Pretty much, yeah. The Samsung 850 was, at least at launch, considerably more expensive than comparable drives using planar (conventional) NAND flash, but as planar tech has pretty much maxed out, the only way forward - with flash tech anyway - is by stacking.

Simply shrinking the cell size further and further isn't viable anymore; each time you shrink, durability goes down (a lot), and read/write times go up. Also, block and page sizes tend to grow a lot as well when shrinking, which increases overwriting (having to write more data than the actual write access you wanted to perform), which lowers durability of the drive further still.

Stacking effectively circumvents all that, but is a more complicated manufacturing technology, so will be more expensive in the near term...
 
Am I the only one perplexed by the claim of "three times more storage capacity" and an initial offering of a 256GB drive? When I saw the headline I expected the smallest capacity to be at least 1 TB.

I'm confused as well. For instance, they claim potential of up to 10 tb which is 10 times higher then 1 tb that exists was today. Also, are they implying we'll get less expensive drives while enjoying more storage in said drive? The article is unclear.
 
Am I the only one perplexed by the claim of "three times more storage capacity" and an initial offering of a 256GB drive? When I saw the headline I expected the smallest capacity to be at least 1 TB.

That's 256 GB MLC, so 256 GB per cell, not 256 GB per drive.
 
They have been selling 3D-NAND SSDs for a while (850 Pro/Evo)

Pretty much, yeah. The Samsung 850 was, at least at launch, considerably more expensive than comparable drives using planar (conventional) NAND flash, but as planar tech has pretty much maxed out, the only way forward - with flash tech anyway - is by stacking.

Simply shrinking the cell size further and further isn't viable anymore; each time you shrink, durability goes down (a lot), and read/write times go up. Also, block and page sizes tend to grow a lot as well when shrinking, which increases overwriting (having to write more data than the actual write access you wanted to perform), which lowers durability of the drive further still.

Stacking effectively circumvents all that, but is a more complicated manufacturing technology, so will be more expensive in the near term...

The 850 does advertise the 3D NAND tech, it is competitively priced now too. The increased durability of the 3D cells architecture also meant they bumped up their warranty from 3 to 5 years.
 
Given that flash storage solutions using 3D NAND are not expected to be available until the end of this year at the earliest, it is unlikely that larger SSDs based on the new technology will be included in any next-generation Macs for the foreseeable future.

Uh... what? 3D NAND became available in consumer drives LAST YEAR.

A lot of people have already upgraded their Macs with SSDs utilizing 3D NAND.

Samsung has been making 32-layer 3D NAND for a while.
 
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