My first real computer (PC) was bought in 1986 with a 20 meg hard drive. The drive went bad in the first year and was replaced under warranty. I paid an extra $100 to upgrade to a 30 meg HD.
Now I have photos larger than that!
Dood, some of us remember when 16K of ram and a floppy drive was luxury.
Yeah, we can look forward to the day when today's technical marvel is tomorrow's nostalgia item at the local thrift store.
"Given that flash storage solutions using 3D NAND are not expected to be available until the end of this year at the earliest...."
The Samsung 850 EVO/850 Pro, which has been out for months already, disagrees with you. Article writer needs to check his stuff before writing.
And you should read this thread, it has been said multiple times.![]()
Oh trust me, I did. That sentence was so wrong that I felt the need to add to the voices calling it out.![]()
That's 256 GB MLC, so 256 GB per cell, not 256 GB per drive.
It will be interesting to see if Samsung announces they are selling SSDs with 3D Nand after they examine Intel's new technology.
Oh how I would love a 1TB+ drive in my MacBook (yes, waiting for Apple to put these in the new MacBook line). Hopefully next year? Maybe the year after that?
I have a feeling that Apple may shy away from extreme storage capacities in the near (3-5yrs) future for the sole purpose of pushing their iCloud agenda. If everyone is pushing for cloud storage so heavily, why do we need such monstrous local storage options?
That's not to say I wouldn't jump on that in a heartbeat. I would. Being able to store all my pictures/music/apps/videos on my computer would be amazing.
It's interesting how Apple is an early adopter in some cases (USB Type-C), and less so in others.
I just want a 3TB one for less than a mortgage...
SSDs are advancing ever so rapidly yet Apple is still giving us only128gb as standard and charging bagillions if we need anymore.
10 TB iMac Edition Rose Gold. A selection of power cables available starting at $7000.
It's so so sad Apple are so very penny pinching when it comes to memory on their "premium" devices.![]()
Can we get an update on the OP that clarifies if this is a new 3D NAND process different from the process already on the market? Given that the Samsung 850 series has been on the market since mid 2014, we can probably drop the portion of the OP I bolded. Several forum members already own the 850.
Intel-Micron's 32-layer 3D NAND design is by far more efficient than Samsung's, which is mostly explained by the much higher die capacity. The memory array efficiency (i.e. the portion of the die that's dedicated to memory cells) tends to scale with die capacity because the peripheral circuitry doesn't need too many modifications and thus the die area taken by the circuitry doesn't really increase with capacity.
I estimated Intel-Micron's 32-layer 3D NAND to have array efficiency of approximately 85%, which is very good and considerably higher than Samsung's 32-layer design (66% for the 86Gbit MLC part and 72% for the 128Gbit TLC part).
The difference between the Intel/Micron and the Samsung 3D NAND is explained here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9116/estimating-intelmicron-32layer-256gbit-3d-nand-die-size
You seemed to have missed this part:So the claims in the original post about much larger SSDs based on the new technology would appear to be quite reasonable.
I read the same piece on anandtech. It still doesn't help the MR post. The MR post needs more clarifying information. That was my request.
You seemed to have missed this part:
Given that flash storage solutions using 3D NAND are not expected to be available until the end of this year at the earliest...
That part of the quote is simply not true. They're available right now. It may be true for the Intel/Micron tech, but it's not true for 3D NAND in general.
Someone reading the original post would think 1) 3D NAND is an Intel/Micron invention. 2) 3D NAND won't be on the market for some time. Basically the post is undersourced and poorly written.
How much better is SSD than platter for archiving information?
I think really the Macs of the future not having the old legacy ports needed to access the old drives will play a bigger role in the death of external platter HDD's then the platter itself.