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Intel's Upcoming Coffee Lake Processors Up to 30% Faster Than Kaby Lake Chips Coming to Mac Notebooks
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The new Intel chip notwithstanding, actually. If you look at HDMI, Bluetooth, DDR, and display technology, MacBook Pro mid-2017 will most likely be outdated in all of these areas.
Phew!! thanks Apple. For a moment I just though a Mac would be in state of the art techwise and I was scared,
Calmed now that I know it's not happening. Dodge a bullet right there! Don't ever go scaring people with random unusual changes again please,
Calmed now that I know it's not happening. Dodge a bullet right there! Don't ever go scaring people with random unusual changes again please,
"Latest" Intel? You're joking.
Up to 30% Faster
Corporate YMMV wording.
Corporate YMMV wording.
I would love a quad core 13 inch. Thats always been a big dream of mine.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Oh man I would be really tempted to get a 13" machine (in addition to the iMac Pro and sell off my 15" MBP) if it gets quad-core and discrete graphics. I don't need crazy graphics in a 13" machine, but anything discrete would be welcome! What are the odds that such a machine could also have 32GB of RAM? I mean, 16GB would probably be fine as I'd do any crazy work on the iMac Pro but I might get it just for longevity. I'm really glad I configured my main rMBP back in 2012 with 16GB of RAM. Isn't the new RAM (DDR4?) supposed to be more power efficient, which is why Apple didn't offer 32GB of the old RAM in the last update?
Sadly Apple will use chips from 5 years ago and charge $2000 for the privilege, mac laptops will forever remain underpowered and overpriced, devoid of intelligent useful chips, ports, graphics.
Apparently you do. So much so that you had to make edits to your comment realising I'm about to jump on you like a sumo wrestler.
Tim's Apple likely has no intention of upgrading to this new processor until it is old and cheap to maximize profit... not to benefit customers. So expect this in MacBook probably late 2018 or later. SJ would have had a deal with Intel to be the first with the new chip to market.
Can't wait the see the comments that disagree with this. Please prove me wrong cause I miss the Apple that use to innovate.
Can't wait the see the comments that disagree with this. Please prove me wrong cause I miss the Apple that use to innovate.
30% improvement on their favourite benchmark, comparing a dual-core to a quad-core.
Their IPC has barely changed for five years.
Considering you won't be able to buy these until at least December, no, not "a couple of months" and if you consider an entire laptop "out of date" because it doesn't use Intels latest codename chip you ought to start paying more attention to the rest of the components in it.
That's actually my wording. Intel simply says:
"…we're seeing a performance improvement of more than 30 percent over the 7th Gen Intel Core processor."
But since it's only a comparison between the high-end Core i7 chip of each generation, it won't always be >30%.
The latest Intel Core i7 mobile processor is the 7920HQ. Which Intel Core i7 does the latest MacBook Pro use? So there. I was right and you're wrong. End of story.
Probably a new, improved architecture and some tricks with better caching. AMD got a better performance leap in Zen though. But yeah, optimising this further is crazily complicated and very impressive.
Ah, yes, so you contend that Intel has nothing to do with HDMI, Bluetooth, DDR and Display Port support? Well, have I got a surprise for you! Again, you have a problem with the state of innovation regarding chips or the implementation of these standards, go troll Intel.
Same here, I would love to see it and it'd get rid of the conflict between the 13" and 15" for me. And I don't think it would be bad for the 15" because that will still have the larger screen, and more powerful CPU/GPU.
I think the reasoning was that to offer 32GB, they would have to use RAM that consumes more power and is usually used in desktops. I believe the underlying issue is LP RAM support in Intel processors.
So it depends on Intels support, and what they can fit on the logic board. I think that's probably more of a problem with storage - I would also like to see over 1TB on the 13". Currently the 15W chips have a 16GB RAM limit andI don't know if that will change with Coffee Lake. We may have to wait another year for that.
Anyone who's been around should be amazed how much performance is getting squeezed out of a 15W part.
Intel owes Apple a debt of gratitude for pushing Intel's chips to be more power efficient. That level of performance out of a part that uses 15W is ridiculous. As a measure of performance, the old core 2 duo mobiles were 35W parts.
Intel owes Apple a debt of gratitude for pushing Intel's chips to be more power efficient. That level of performance out of a part that uses 15W is ridiculous. As a measure of performance, the old core 2 duo mobiles were 35W parts.
Seriously- the current 7700k beats my 2013 4770k by about 30%.
A 30% leap is equivalent to the last 4 years of Intel's development.
That said, it's far more "normal"- the rest of the industry has outpaced that. Apple's ARM processors have seen a 200% increase over the same time and NVidia's GPUs have seen 240% if you compare the 780 to the 1080.
I bristle when I see talk of a "pro" iMac. What horse manure. More of Apple telling customers what it needs rather than supply what is wanted. This isn't a ding on the iMac, but a Mini is so much more ideal as a lower end "pro" box. Personally, I like to customize my monitor set up and an AIO doesn't lend itself to that. Plus the Mini is easy to crack open -- though they kind of neutered that last gen. But I'd pay $1800 for a mini Pro with solid processor, GPU, and RAM capability. That is essentially what the entry level cheese grater MP was, just more customizable.
That is true of all tech. If it weren't it would stagnate. It's been a long time since I've bought any expensive tech assured it would not be superseded, or even obsoleted, in 6-18 months. We aren't talking about clothes irons here. Also I wouldn't say a 1 year old computer is "outdated" any more than a 1 year old car.
That is true of all tech. If it weren't it would stagnate. It's been a long time since I've bought any expensive tech assured it would not be superseded, or even obsoleted, in 6-18 months. We aren't talking about clothes irons here. Also I wouldn't say a 1 year old computer is "outdated" any more than a 1 year old car.