Internal Apple Document From Leaker 'Unknownz21' Confirms Wi-Fi 6E Will Be Limited to iPhone 15 Pro Models

[StuBeck]

It makes a big difference for people who work from home. Not so much for phones, but when copying large amounts of data from computer to computer or backing things up to local storage, it can be a big difference.

In house chips are probably why they are doing it. With an early batch, they can probably only make a few of the new chips. They go into the premium products. The chips from other vendors go into the not so premium products.

Some people have home networks and need to move a lot of data around. For much of that, we can use hard connections, but you never know when you want to transfer some very large files from a laptop and you don't want to take the time to disconnect devices from the router.

I know there is a difference between 6 and 6E, but unless everyones devices are 6E and have good line of site, the difference between them for transfering is minimal compared to the difference between 5 and 6.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

Yeah, but (not that I'm a TC fan) Steve gave the reigns to Tim Cook with specific instructions to not ask "what would Steve do?" when making decisions for Apple. The stockholders LOVE Tim Cook, and Apple is, for now, incredibly successful. For those of us (I am one) who boarded the Apple train when Steve was the conductor, it's been a long and grueling ride in the Tim Cook era. I worked for Apple in the Steve Jobs era, and continued for a few years after he died. The "Angela Ahrends" era is where Apple's magic left the building for me. So I left the building...

Thanks for sharing. Would you consider applying back to Apple Retail stores? I know many people that have done that. Also, did you have any interest in applying for a Corporate job?

 

[imnotthewalrus]

Thanks for sharing. Would you consider applying back to Apple Retail stores? I know many people that have done that. Also, did you have any interest in applying for a Corporate job?

I would consider it except (1) I live in Tennessee now; the nearest Apple Store is 2-3 hrs away and (2) I'm about to turn 66; I'm not sure I could work more than 12-15 hours a week. And (3) the Creative position that I held doesn't really exist anymore. But if conditions fit, I would LOVE to work at Apple again. A corporate job would be great if I were younger, but I couldn't do the hours.

 

[RalfTheDog]

I know there is a difference between 6 and 6E, but unless everyones devices are 6E and have good line of site, the difference between them for transfering is minimal compared to the difference between 5 and 6.

That is true if you don't have lots of networks around you. The primary advantage of 6E is, there are far fewer networks that use the 6GHz frequency. Less congestion = faster speeds.

 

[StuBeck]

That is true if you don't have lots of networks around you. The primary advantage of 6E is, there are far fewer networks that use the 6GHz frequency. Less congestion = faster speeds.

Again, no one is stating there aren't improvements with 6E. What I am saying is that the majority of users won't notice the upgrade from 6 to 6E. If you have a 6 network you spent $1k on a year ago, don't feel the need to upgrade to 6E right now.

 

[Eorlas]

And you know how to be an ass.

i know how to be specific

I don't see the point.

of course you do not. you only rationalize the world, and its progress, based upon your solitary needs and what you are capable of understanding.

if something exceeds either of those two things, you believe it to be unnecessary.

thank goodness we don't develop new technology based upon this.

 

[DEMinSoCAL]

Don't currently have a way to measure application network performance on my iPad but on my desktop which is limited to 1 GbE speeds I can max out the connection when using the News app where I spend most of my time. Admittedly a small hard datapoint to support my assertion that it makes a lot of difference. Not sure how you can guarantee something which it sounds like you evidently have never tried or tested, but of course some websites don't support high speeds. The ones I use for content viewing do.

Admittedly, I have not tried or tested, but curious for how long that connection is saturated? Half a second? Or long bursts of 1 Gigabit? Are you waiting for content to load when maxed at 1 Gigabit? What content? I can't imagine normal people using normal WIFI and cellular connections get any use from the News app if you're saturating a Gigabit connection with it and are still unhappy.

 

[HDFan]

Admittedly, I have not tried or tested, but curious for how long that connection is saturated? Half a second? Or long bursts of 1 Gigabit? Are you waiting for content to load when maxed at 1 Gigabit? What content? I can't imagine normal people using normal WIFI and cellular connections get any use from the News app if you're saturating a Gigabit connection with it and are still unhappy.

The app that I use the most is news. As your scroll through the article list and select an article both have to be loaded. That's where you see the difference - while you are populating the scrolling page and when loading articles. The periods of network saturation are therefore very brief, but it is quite noticeable. It's like you are reading a printed magazine rather than download content - it is just instantaneously there, you don't even notice that it is streaming.

When away from home I am of course limited to either the available Wifi or cellular speeds. I notice it the extra speed when I return home and can connect to 6E. As you say performance with other apps may be totally different.

 

[MacClueless]

I guess this is where they start to offer features to prop up the iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max over the iPhone 15. Sad.

Really how hard would it be to use a newer WiFi chip on all the iPhone 15 models?

You know, people who don’t want to spring for a pro phone likely don’t have or need 6E anyway.