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Internet Explorer 5.2 on Monday

Looks like Microsoft have really pushed the boat out on this one. (Note the heavy sarcasm!!!!)

Apart from the aa text (which I like!). Are there any improvements? I thought that they might have got round to using the aqua widgets for pop-up menus etc, but NO.

I find it VERY INTERESTING that this has not been provided by software update. This is major! If it is not going to be provided by software update, and it doesn't look likely at this stage, Apple don't seem to be 'pushing' IE anymore. Remember Microsoft has NEVER posted any OS X browser on their site.

Expect something major for Jaguar folks. Could this see the long awaited return of an Apple browser? The release date is not after the end of the Microsoft agreement for nothing!!! 😀

Alex.
 
Re: Still stickin with IE

> The skinny little bar on the left bugs
> me in mozilla.

The first thing I do is turn this off.... not just minimize it. If you expand it to show the sidebar and then click the X at the top-right side of the sidebar, it goes away.


> One site I built is semi-liquid. Kind of
> like apple. The menu bar stretches
> left and right to fill the screen. My
> little spin was that instead of
> centered, the left stretch is 33%,
> and the right stretch is 66%. IE 5
> for mac is the ONLY browser that
> displays that correctly. IE for PC
> does not. So I give IE credit for
> displaying my pages AS DESIGNED.

With all due respect, this sounds like a design problem... I can design pages that display perfectly in Netscape 4.7. That the page will probably render differently on every single other browser is a given. It doesn't mean that Netscape follows the HTML standard to the letter and all the other browsers are broken.

If it were me, and the page I was designing only rendered properly on a single browser with a tiny percentage of total market share (IE for Mac can't possibly have more than 3%, since Mac users hardly make up for 3% of web users), I would think twice about my design.

However, I have a feeling I know what's causing the problem. Can you share the URL? If the HTML is indeed proper, I'll eat my words. If not, then perhaps I can help you make sure it renders the same on every other browser...

> Speed is a negligible issue for me
> since I'm on fiber optic dsl, but I'd
> like to see tabbed browsing in IE.

It's not about d/l speed... it's about rendering speed. Go to slashdot.org, pick an article with about 400-500 comments. Then change the display to Threshold: 0, Nested, Highest Scores First. IE for Mac will literally take minutes to render this page (on OS 9, good luck doing anything else in the meantime). Any other browser, IE for PC included, will render the page, all 700k of nested tables, in seconds.
 
Gotta love it, still can't render MSN:
IE.jpg


Get your M$ fun here:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/DOWNLOAD/IE/ie52.asp
 
Am I seeing things, or do you have the brushed metal look for your About dialog, Nipsy?

My build of 5.2 doesn't have it.
 
Originally posted by eunuchs
Am I seeing things, or do you have the brushed metal look for your About dialog, Nipsy?

My build of 5.2 doesn't have it.
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He is most likely using an OS X theme program for the brushed metal effect.
 
Screen shot is not mine, I just thought it was humorous, and it is from a few hours ago, so the MSN page may have been played with a bit.

It renders okay on my machine, now that I tortured it with IE.
 
Looks like Crap...

OK. I just installed 5.2 and it does seem snappier but now everything looks blurry and lame. Anyone wanna tell me how to get this back to normal...
 
Thanks!

Originally posted by verbose101
Check out this thread, another thread on IE5.2.
In there you will find how to turn off text smoothing.
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Thanks alot man. Much better now. IMHO that text smoothing looks like garbage. I could barely read the text on this page.
 
Re: Thanks!

Originally posted by tjwett


Thanks alot man. Much better now. IMHO that text smoothing looks like garbage. I could barely read the text on this page.
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Personally I can't stand it with it turned off, I just love the silky smooth text 😀 ...mmmmm...smoooooth...
 
Re: Re: Thanks!

Originally posted by verbose101

Personally I can't stand it with it turned off, I just love the silky smooth text 😀 ...mmmmm...smoooooth...
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I'd love it if it actually looked silky smooth. It just looks like it's out of focus to me. Maybe I'm missing something. I'm on a Tibook 550 with my res set to the highest setting. I noticed a DPI menu in the Languages/Fonts menu in IE Preferences. Mine is on 96dpi. What's yours? Does that have anything to do with it?
 
Re: Re: Re: Thanks!

Originally posted by tjwett


I'd love it if it actually looked silky smooth. It just looks like it's out of focus to me. Maybe I'm missing something. I'm on a Tibook 550 with my res set to the highest setting. I noticed a DPI menu in the Languages/Fonts menu in IE Preferences. Mine is on 96dpi. What's yours? Does that have anything to do with it?
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Yup, mine is 96dpi too, but I'm also running Silk 1.1. Maybe that would make a difference?
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Thanks!

Originally posted by verbose101

Yup, mine is 96dpi too, but I'm also running Silk 1.1. Maybe that would make a difference?
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Now running IE thru Silk but it looks the same. Oh well. I think the smoothing just isn't my cup of tea.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Thanks!

Originally posted by tjwett


Now running IE thru Silk but it looks the same. Oh well. I think the smoothing just isn't my cup of tea.
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That's a shame, it's probably the bigest update in 5.2, you probably needn't have bothered to upgrade from 5.1. lol 🙂
Still, never mind hey, I'm sure there are alot out there who do love it (like me 😉)
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Thanks!

Originally posted by verbose101

That's a shame, it's probably the bigest update in 5.2, you probably needn't have bothered to upgrade from 5.1. lol 🙂
Still, never mind hey, I'm sure there are alot out there who do love it (like me 😉)
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You know what? I've been browsing around and I do actually see an improvement in a bunch of other sites. For some reason it's only the forum section of this site that looks funny to me. Maybe it's just the font they're using or something. Does the Quartz smoothing slow anything down? I'm a little fuzzy(no pun intended) on how it works.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Thanks!

Originally posted by tjwett


You know what? I've been browsing around and I do actually see an improvement in a bunch of other sites. For some reason it's only the forum section of this site that looks funny to me. Maybe it's just the font they're using or something. Does the Quartz smoothing slow anything down? I'm a little fuzzy(no pun intended) on how it works.
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As far as I under stand, no, it shouldn't do.
The extra rendering work is left to the video card to handle which would of course find smoothing a little text a breeze 😀 So I shouldn't slow you down at all.
Correct me if I'm wrong anyone...
 
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