Yeah.. they want you to pay to file stuff electronically so they can save money processing your tax filing. Why bother, if it only saves you the cost of a postage stamp? I for one would hope that every one file their taxes on paper this year, just to be as unhelpful to them as possible, kind of how they treat everyone else.
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Intuit Releases Lion-Compatible Quicken 2007 for Mac
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I stuck with it not out of any particular hope, but because I had no choice. Rosetta wasn't a bandaid but a recognition on Apple's part that the software support on the Mac platform is still considerably weaker than Windows. It's Apple's responsibility to make transitions easier rather than harder if they want people to stay with the platform. Until the Lion update, this was always the policy. Just because Apple decided that they no longer needed to make life easier for their customers this time around doesn't mean it was right or wise.
On top of it, software they released in 2007, after every single product in Apple's lineup had already switched to Intel processors, was PowerPC-only. Hence the need for this update.
I am so glad I don't run a business any more, meaning I no longer have to run Intuit's s
t products.I used Quicken for personal finance, until I was effectively forced into using QuickBooks for my business. That showed me how terrible Intuit products were, and soured me on the otherwise-acceptable Quicken.
I had a one-version-old version of QuickBooks. I discovered that I couldn't print to my networked printer. I called support. They acknowledged it was a known bug. Not a "missing feature" (I work in software, I know the difference,) but a *BUG*. Their solution? Upgrade to the latest version of QuickBooks. No discount or anything. $300 please, to be able to print to a networked printer.
Yes we can, but it is not always plain sailing.
Example.
I worked in Holland a couple of years, halfway through a taxable year I moved to Indonesia so I have to fill out tax papers for Holland, strangely I could not fill out My Tax online and they send Me a big envelope to Indonesia, even though the Tax rebate was exactly the same wether I filled it out on paper or electronically.
So, if I am in Holland it's an easy online process but if I live somewhere else they make it difficult
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Does any one know of a decent program that would allow me to calculate and print pay tubs, W2s, 1099's etc for my small business? Preferably something not too complicated.
Does any one know of a decent program that would allow me to calculate and print pay tubs, W2s, 1099's etc for my small business? Preferably something not too complicated.
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Not true at all about 64bit. Microsoft had fully 64bit os's years before apple. Windows vista x64 was entirely 64bit. They also had xp 64 bit although that was not designed to be that way vista was intended to be primarily a 64bit os and the 32bit version was modified from the 64bit version. Years before both of these they had the itanium edition of windows that only ran 64bit software. Mac OS didn't start using 64bit kernels until recently.
What are you using now?
That's great! What software have you found that works for you now?
I'm also done with Intuit. Regardless of the relative profitability, if you care about your customers you don't put out the crap that I've been seeing from Intuit. I'm not interested in doing business with them.
I've been researching... Looking for ease of use (of course) basic cash based small business, being able to easily download credit card transactions & interact with the banks. Billpay out of the software would be great, but haven't found that yet. I don't need investment data.
Here are some options I've heard of:
I'm using SEE Finance. It's good, and free for the moment.
iBank4 - heard it's good but customer service not so much. That was my experience with them too.
YNAB - don't know anything about them.
Mint - didn't do what I needed when I looked at it.
MoneyDance - a java app.
Moneywell
Moneywiz
www.saasu.com
AccountEdge - more than I need and more than I wanted to spend.
Fortura
Moneyworks Cashbook - a good company
Kashoo, https://www.kashoo.com
Any additions? What software have you tried and what do you like?
That's great! What software have you found that works for you now?
I'm also done with Intuit. Regardless of the relative profitability, if you care about your customers you don't put out the crap that I've been seeing from Intuit. I'm not interested in doing business with them.
I've been researching... Looking for ease of use (of course) basic cash based small business, being able to easily download credit card transactions & interact with the banks. Billpay out of the software would be great, but haven't found that yet. I don't need investment data.
Here are some options I've heard of:
I'm using SEE Finance. It's good, and free for the moment.
iBank4 - heard it's good but customer service not so much. That was my experience with them too.
YNAB - don't know anything about them.
Mint - didn't do what I needed when I looked at it.
MoneyDance - a java app.
Moneywell
Moneywiz
www.saasu.com
AccountEdge - more than I need and more than I wanted to spend.
Fortura
Moneyworks Cashbook - a good company
Kashoo, https://www.kashoo.com
Any additions? What software have you tried and what do you like?
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cool, now if i can just invent a time machine and take myself back 5 years ago i might actually care
it doesn't run
I downloaded it because I had a very good system set up to help me with my taxes and ibank isn't working as well for that.
complete waste of $15. It crashes when you try to open a 2005 file. It crashes if you try to create a new file. If you try the 2005 file again, it tells you it can't open it. It even crashed once before did anything at all.
I already asked for a refund.
I downloaded it because I had a very good system set up to help me with my taxes and ibank isn't working as well for that.
complete waste of $15. It crashes when you try to open a 2005 file. It crashes if you try to create a new file. If you try the 2005 file again, it tells you it can't open it. It even crashed once before did anything at all.
I already asked for a refund.
I find this bizarre. Apple's computer sales are going up and up, with a lot of sales going to Intuit's potential customers. And Apple's computers are not exactly cheap, so they will be more likely willing to pay out for decent software. In other words, a huge possibility to make money.
And what is Intuit doing? They are doing their very, very best to piss off their customers. They are driving them to a cheaper product, which is just absurd. Releasing a Lion-compatible version _now_ so long after the release of Lion is just incomprehensible.
If they fired the management responsible for the Mac versions and spent the money on developers, that would make them an awful lot of money.
And what is Intuit doing? They are doing their very, very best to piss off their customers. They are driving them to a cheaper product, which is just absurd. Releasing a Lion-compatible version _now_ so long after the release of Lion is just incomprehensible.
If they fired the management responsible for the Mac versions and spent the money on developers, that would make them an awful lot of money.
I did, too! It crashed so many times, I just decided to stick with Quicken Essentials which isn't my favorite but at least it's not crashing. The tech wanted me to reinstall it and I refused. Obviously NOT Lion compatible.
4 month old Rosetta bug re-engineered into the Lion version
I downloaded in hopes of returning to Quicken from one of the other apps mentioned several times here.
The (NEW) Quicken 2007 (2012) for Lion will not download from Scottrade. A search of the Quicken forums indicates the Rosetta version quit downloading from Scottrade sometime in October 2011 and has not been fixed 4 months later. Allegedly, Quicken blames Scottrade and Scottrade blames Quicken.
Apparently Scottrade changed the name of their certificate server and the Connlog indicates that Quicken can't be bothered to fix it. What else is new!
So, the "re-engineering" didn't include any testing. Yet again, what else is new!
$14.99 down another Quicken rathole...
I downloaded in hopes of returning to Quicken from one of the other apps mentioned several times here.
The (NEW) Quicken 2007 (2012) for Lion will not download from Scottrade. A search of the Quicken forums indicates the Rosetta version quit downloading from Scottrade sometime in October 2011 and has not been fixed 4 months later. Allegedly, Quicken blames Scottrade and Scottrade blames Quicken.
Apparently Scottrade changed the name of their certificate server and the Connlog indicates that Quicken can't be bothered to fix it. What else is new!
So, the "re-engineering" didn't include any testing. Yet again, what else is new!
$14.99 down another Quicken rathole...
Thank you. I was about to say something similar. I recently started playing an old game written for Windows 98 on Windows 8 as well. Besides the opening "cinematic" video not working it's playing fine once I get to the main menu screen.
I'm continually annoyed how much modern software can't be run on OSX 10.4 (highest version that runs well on an iBook G4), as though there's been some huge changes made since then.
Actually I think this is what Intuit did. They brought in a be Mac team and this is step one in bringing Quicken back - the stop the bleeding stage. I imagine they are trying to converge QE and old Quicken in the mid-term.
Well, there have been some huge changes made since then. Two technologies that make life an awful lot easier for developers are GCD (Grand Central Dispatch) which is an absolute must if you write any multi-threaded code, introduced in 10.6, and ARC (automatic reference counting) which really simplifies writing any Cocoa code, and which also requires 10.6 and 10.7.
And any developer who is profitable knows that people wanting to run their software on an iBook G4 will not be paying his bills.
Yes, and how many people actually ran Windows XP 64-bit? Not many, because it was incompatible with lots of software and drivers. It wasn't until Windows 7 that the 64-bit versions became more popular
OS X was able to achieve better compatibility with drivers because it was able to use a 64-bit application layer on top of a 32-bit kernel.
I am so glad I don't run a business any more, meaning I no longer have to run Intuit's s
Whats with all the hating on Inuit? I, for one, think they've done a reasonable job getting Quicken 2007 ported to Intel in under 6 years. We must remember that internet connections are not very fast up there in Iqaluit.
The controversial assertion wasn't a question of which company did it best, or which one made it popular. I think Apple takes that prize.
The assertion was that Apple did it FIRST. And that's just not true: a fully 64-bit operating system was released by Microsoft in late 2001; Apple reached an approximately equivalent milestone in 2007.
I thought this was a gag story when I first read it. If the best Intuit can do is update with an Intel binary a six year old piece of financial software, the company should just throw in the towel completely. I feel very badly for those of you who rely on Quicken's more advanced features because you're stuck with a product from a company that just barely wants to support it. Feature parity between Mac and Windows isn't rocket science. It's achieved for far more complex software than anything a financial application will ever do.
As far as Apple dispensing with Rosetta is concerned, I agree that Apple threw it out too early, just as with Classic. Legacy software support is much better on the Windows side certainly, but a large part of that is natural given that the Win32 APIs have been around since Windows 95, and Windows has always been Intel based so compatibility there can go all the way back to DOS. (Of course it's not perfect, which is why Microsoft felt the need to offer separate XP VM mode as discussed.) In contrast, the Mac went through three major transitions, from Motorola 68K to PowerPC (1994), then from Mac OS to Mac OS X (2001), then from PowerPC to Intel (2006). That's a large amount of platform dislocation that takes its toll on backward compatibility.
The bottom line is, you can fault Apple if you really want to for eliminating Rosetta in Lion. It causes problems for users of legacy apps, and I'm sure it's especially annoying because for the most part Rosetta magically just worked with many Power Mac apps; to have that be gone when it seems like it wouldn't have even taken much effort on Apple's part to keep it around is bothersome. Then again, no one except the Mac OS X engineering team knows how much Rosetta cost in upkeep expenses over OS upgrades. We imagine it would be low to zero, but perhaps that isn't the case.
Besides that though, while it's annoying that Apple axed Rosetta, the blame here should go predominately to Intuit. Nearly every other developer of value got on board with the Intel switch very quickly. Intuit takes years to get on board and what you get is a half-asseed warmed over port of software from yesteryear? Again, that's totally pathetic.
I had not heard of YANB before today. I'm looking forward to trying the demo. I'm hoping it can replace GNUCash, which is cross platform and which gets the job done for my bookkeeping needs but certainly isn't pretty to look at or pleasant to use. . . . I see that it doesn't show double entry bookkeeping the way I'm accustomed to it. I'll have to see if I can adapt to it, but the program's interface is beautiful and functional.
As far as Apple dispensing with Rosetta is concerned, I agree that Apple threw it out too early, just as with Classic. Legacy software support is much better on the Windows side certainly, but a large part of that is natural given that the Win32 APIs have been around since Windows 95, and Windows has always been Intel based so compatibility there can go all the way back to DOS. (Of course it's not perfect, which is why Microsoft felt the need to offer separate XP VM mode as discussed.) In contrast, the Mac went through three major transitions, from Motorola 68K to PowerPC (1994), then from Mac OS to Mac OS X (2001), then from PowerPC to Intel (2006). That's a large amount of platform dislocation that takes its toll on backward compatibility.
The bottom line is, you can fault Apple if you really want to for eliminating Rosetta in Lion. It causes problems for users of legacy apps, and I'm sure it's especially annoying because for the most part Rosetta magically just worked with many Power Mac apps; to have that be gone when it seems like it wouldn't have even taken much effort on Apple's part to keep it around is bothersome. Then again, no one except the Mac OS X engineering team knows how much Rosetta cost in upkeep expenses over OS upgrades. We imagine it would be low to zero, but perhaps that isn't the case.
Besides that though, while it's annoying that Apple axed Rosetta, the blame here should go predominately to Intuit. Nearly every other developer of value got on board with the Intel switch very quickly. Intuit takes years to get on board and what you get is a half-asseed warmed over port of software from yesteryear? Again, that's totally pathetic.
I had not heard of YANB before today. I'm looking forward to trying the demo. I'm hoping it can replace GNUCash, which is cross platform and which gets the job done for my bookkeeping needs but certainly isn't pretty to look at or pleasant to use. . . . I see that it doesn't show double entry bookkeeping the way I'm accustomed to it. I'll have to see if I can adapt to it, but the program's interface is beautiful and functional.
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Just a little too late for me...
Had this happened four months ago I would have gladly snapped it up. I went through much angst trying to figure out a solution to the Quicken/Lion issue. I tried iBank for a week but the reporting features were inadequate for my purposes. I then bit the bullet and bought Quicken 2012 for windows (i'm already using 2 other windows products for my law office via Parallels) and transitioned everything over. I have to say I've been extremely happy with the Windows version of the software. It is far more useful and robust than the 2007 version that is now Lion compatible.
To be fair, I considered waiting until MobileMe became obsolete in June to making the switch, figuring that Intuit may do just this. I blame myself for my impatience, but I've very much enjoyed using iCloud and all the new features of Lion, and as I said before Quicken 2012 for windows is a great product.
Had this happened four months ago I would have gladly snapped it up. I went through much angst trying to figure out a solution to the Quicken/Lion issue. I tried iBank for a week but the reporting features were inadequate for my purposes. I then bit the bullet and bought Quicken 2012 for windows (i'm already using 2 other windows products for my law office via Parallels) and transitioned everything over. I have to say I've been extremely happy with the Windows version of the software. It is far more useful and robust than the 2007 version that is now Lion compatible.
To be fair, I considered waiting until MobileMe became obsolete in June to making the switch, figuring that Intuit may do just this. I blame myself for my impatience, but I've very much enjoyed using iCloud and all the new features of Lion, and as I said before Quicken 2012 for windows is a great product.
If we moved our data to Quicken Essentials and now move back, will all of our Investment transactions reappear or were they essentially stripped away when we moved to Quicken Essentials?
I think the web site paycheckcity.com can do that kind of stuff. I've only ever used it for figuring out my personal W2 exemption numbers but I think their main business is web-based payroll services.
Also, I work for a small company and my boss uses SurePayroll.com for all of his payroll stuff. We've never had any issues with it. (they do 401k's too, btw)