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How is that addiction?

When I was young and would regularly ride the subway to work, before smartphones, everybody on the train was reading a newspaper. Were they addicted to newspapers?

Yep. People want to do something beyond staring at nothing. And I doubt most people want to talk to random people. Some people throw out the word addiction far too quickly these days.
 
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When they walk in from metro with it in their hands,wait for metro to arrive within 5-10 minutes, walk into metro still holding phone until they get off and then walk off metro at their metro stop all the way out the door while still holding and looking at smartphone I would then call that an addiction.
 
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When they walk in from metro with it in their hands,wait for metro to arrive within 5-10 minutes, walk into metro still holding phone until they get off and then walk off metro at their metro stop all the way out the door while still holding and looking at smartphone I would then call that an addiction.
When you’re on the metro and using your smartphone, it’s not an addiction but a sense of self-preservation. When one is in a group at a social event and all are staring at screens that could be labeled an addiction.
 
When they walk in from metro with it in their hands,wait for metro to arrive within 5-10 minutes, walk into metro still holding phone until they get off and then walk off metro at their metro stop all the way out the door while still holding and looking at smartphone I would then call that an addiction.

And you’d be wrong. Heavy use does not equate to addiction. It’s not addictive, it’s useful. And people don’t like being bored, that’s the second part.

https://www.macobserver.com/columns-opinions/devils-advocate/iphones-arent-addictive-just-useful/
 
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When they walk in from metro with it in their hands,wait for metro to arrive within 5-10 minutes, walk into metro still holding phone until they get off and then walk off metro at their metro stop all the way out the door while still holding and looking at smartphone I would then call that an addiction.

So you’re too young to remember people walking around NYC reading the News, Times and Post, huh?
 
When you’re on the metro and using your smartphone, it’s not an addiction but a sense of self-preservation. When one is in a group at a social event and all are staring at screens that could be labeled an addiction.

Look how is it self-preservation to be using it around the metro? I would think that self-preservation would be better served by being aware of one's surroundings. Especially while walking on an off the metro...
 
What? Parents aren’t using the device, but they’re probably the ones buying them. It’s like saying that Tide needs to make their Pods less edible because some kids ate them. I’m sorry, no. It’s not Tide’s fault that kids ate the Pods.
Tide pods are not intended to be eaten. So that would be using for something not intended or designed.

Smartphones have an addiction problem within the intended use. That’s a design ptoblem.

See the difference?

Basic logic is not optional, if you want to address a problem.
 
Tide pods are not intended to be eaten. So that would be using for something not intended or designed.

Smartphones have an addiction problem within the intended use. That’s a design ptoblem.

See the difference?

Basic logic is not optional, if you want to address a problem.

Basic logic is that parents are causing this supposed problem by buying the device and should do something about it. Then again, this whole smartphone addiction thing is BS from top to bottom.
 
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Basic logic is that parents are causing this supposed problem by buying the device and should do something about it. Then again, this whole smartphone addiction thing is BS from top to bottom.
Addictive effects of smartphones is not a child or parent problem. It affects all users of all ages. That’s the magnitude of the problem here. Children are the tip of the iceberg....
 
Look how is it self-preservation to be using it around the metro? I would think that self-preservation would be better served by being aware of one's surroundings. Especially while walking on an off the metro...
I know when I take the subway I keep to myself to avoid the unsavory individuals. So it’s my opinion, one using a smartphone on the subway/metro is self-preservation.:)
 
Addictive effects of smartphones is not a child or parent problem. It affects all users of all ages. That’s the magnitude of the problem here. Children are the tip of the iceberg....
It’s not a human problem either. It’s ********. Just because something is entertaining doesn’t mean it’s addictive.

I bet you think gluten allergies are a real thing too.
 
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Smartphones are not addictive. Stop peddling FUD.
I don’t know what this means. But in plan English I can tell you that you’re not at all up to date on this topic.

Faith and desire to believe X or Y or Z are no substitute for insight and basic knowledge.

In fact, keeping users “hooked” is unfortunately an explicit or implicit design objective, in both smartphones and apps - and the industry is now waking up to the dystopia that it has created. As we find, it’s not going to be easy to protect children when the adults who might buy them smartphone, are themselves not immune and may well be oblivious as to the nature of the problem, or even its existence...
 
How is that addiction?

When I was young and would regularly ride the subway to work, before smartphones, everybody on the train was reading a newspaper. Were they addicted to newspapers?

Yes, that's correct. But did they continue to jam their faces into said newspapers as they came to their stops? Did they continue to jam their faces into them as they were walking out of the subway, and onto the streets? Did they then continue to jam their faces into them as they were trying to cross streets? Did people use to read newspapers so obsessively that they'd almost run into street signs and other people?

People are definitely more "hooked" to their smartphones than they were paperback books or newspapers.
 
I don’t know what this means. But in plan English I can tell you that you’re not at all up to date on this topic.

Faith and desire to believe X or Y or Z are no substitute for insight and basic knowledge.

In fact, keeping users “hooked” is unfortunately an explicit or implicit design objective, in both smartphones and apps - and the industry is now waking up to the dystopia that it has created. As we find, it’s not going to be easy to protect children when the adults who might buy them smartphone, are themselves not immune and may well be oblivious as to the nature of the problem, or even its existence...

Basic knowledge is that the smartphone can not be addictive on the basis of it being a device that does nothing on its own. Facebook? Twitter? Some specific app? Sure.
 
Basic knowledge is that the smartphone can not be addictive on the basis of it being a device that does nothing on its own. Facebook? Twitter? Some specific app? Sure.

We’re looking to digress it seems. The device can have addictive properties of its own. Or in OS features or in built in applications. Or external applications sold in its App Store . Or they could be accessed in s browser.

If we have split all the hairs for you, then we could carry on the main topic: devices and ecosystems: addictive by design. Industrywide problem. Societal impact. Must be addressed.
 
We’re looking to digress it seems. The device can have addictive properties of its own. Or in OS features or in built in applications. Or external applications sold in its App Store . Or they could be accessed in s browser.

If we have split all the hairs for you, then we could carry on the main topic: devices and ecosystems: addictive by design. Industrywide problem. Societal impact. Must be addressed.

Nope, I don’t think the iPhone or iOS is addictive by design. Apple doesn’t care if you use their product one hour, half an hour, or ten hours a day. They just want you to be happy enough to keep buying from them.
 
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I don’t know what this means. But in plan English I can tell you that you’re not at all up to date on this topic.

Faith and desire to believe X or Y or Z are no substitute for insight and basic knowledge.

In fact, keeping users “hooked” is unfortunately an explicit or implicit design objective, in both smartphones and apps - and the industry is now waking up to the dystopia that it has created. As we find, it’s not going to be easy to protect children when the adults who might buy them smartphone, are themselves not immune and may well be oblivious as to the nature of the problem, or even its existence...

What do you propose as a solution? Is Apple at fault for enabling app developers to get their apps onto their platform? What about other companies? If Apple didn't do it, Motorola/Nokia would've.

I think most of the issue lies on the individual, not the device. It's not Apple nor any manufacturer's fault that there are many who cannot stop texting their friends or viewing their latest social media updates. There are many other people such as myself who can balance the two.
 
Yes, that's correct. But did they continue to jam their faces into said newspapers as they came to their stops? Did they continue to jam their faces into them as they were walking out of the subway, and onto the streets? Did they then continue to jam their faces into them as they were trying to cross streets? Did people use to read newspapers so obsessively that they'd almost run into street signs and other people?

People are definitely more "hooked" to their smartphones than they were paperback books or newspapers.
Because you could skim through the paper in any where from 30-60 minutes until the next paper came out the next day where as now you have new posts in forums and new news coming out every few seconds online lol..
 
When they walk in from metro with it in their hands,wait for metro to arrive within 5-10 minutes, walk into metro still holding phone until they get off and then walk off metro at their metro stop all the way out the door while still holding and looking at smartphone I would then call that an addiction.
I think another important question here is why you felt it necessary to photograph these people—some of whom are easily identifiable—without their consent. Maybe it’s illegal; maybe it’s not. Either way, it’s creepy.
 
I think another important question here is why you felt it necessary to photograph these people—some of whom are easily identifiable—without their consent. Maybe it’s illegal; maybe it’s not. Either way, it’s creepy.

You are right, it is creepy but today in Asia it is quite the norm.

Come to any famous touristic spot in Asia like Bangkok,Hong Kong,Taiwan,Singapore,Japan,Etc.. and you will see that this happens every where. In fact you see see security cameras pretty much every where doing the same thing as well.
 
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