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If you don’t like what Apple is doing, sell your shares and shut up. It isn’t a company’s job to parent other people’s kids. Period.
1) It takes a village to raise a child.
2) Do you think most parent's understand video game or internet addiction?
3) Since Apple created this device, it's their job to fix the problems said device causes. Or at least minimize it.
 
It's not just about kids.

Despite a phone's usefulness, I am almost never happier than when I leave home without my phone in my pocket.
I think everyone needs to try that, including myself. Get yourself a non-smartphone for emergencies and live life, not in your pocket but the outside world.

People are living sad and unfulfilling lives because of their addiction to their tech. Parents are just as bad as the kids these days, no one really spends quality time with each other because of it.

It's no coincidence that there's a distinct rise in mental health problems since the smartphone era and it's only going to get worse.
 
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I'm amazed how how people of all ages are now becoming addicted to these pocket computers, including me. :) My dad actually got into it before I did, and he was a teacher, of all things!

Apple needs to be involved, but so do the parents, teachers, AND schools.

I think Apple is doing an admirable job of providing enabling technology, and safety controls, where needed.
 
This is the part I am interested in. Having kids at 13, 12 and 10, I would love more resources to help protect them. For an example just look at the parental controls on macOS. The ones we rely on are the timed daily access as well as the hours of accessibility.

I don't think it is a company's responsibility to "parent" our children, but I would love to have the tools to help me parent my children.
How about a simple "put the phone down" or just take it from them. How hard is that?
 
That is crazy! And age test to buy software?!? Under 18?!?!? So a kid going to college (which many do at 17) can't buy an App for classwork? Most 16 and 17 year olds are working some sort of job and have some of their own money. It would be insane to have a federal law passed making it an illegal act to sell software to those folks.

Even worse, how would I prove I'm over 18? Would I have to email a picture of my driver license every time I buy software? So every $2.99 App developer now has a copy of my driver license! What the hell are you suggesting? And is all this for the very rare situation where some young kid gets an active credit card and a game with in-app purchases, your plan is the entire country has to prove its age every time it buys software?!?!?

What a ridiculous over reaction! In the UK it is illegal to gamble till your 18 and we manage just fine without hysteria or the world collapsing!
And it should be a global thing not just in America.

They could force you to link any and iaps from a child’s account to yours. It’s an option at present and from what I’ve seen not very good. It’s not a difficult thing to do, or maybe they could set the age limit to 16.
 
In another study, eighth graders who are heavy users of social media were shown to have a 27 percent higher risk of depression, compared to children who exceed the average time spent playing sports, socializing with friends, or doing homework, all of whom have a much lower risk.

This has nothing to do with Apple or smartphone use though.

Teens were using social media (MySpace, Friendster, etc.) and getting depressed from it long before smartphones and Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram, etc.

Blame parents for poor parenting. Blame them for giving their kid(s) smartphones at such early ages. If you think your kid needs a phone so you can reach each other in case of emergencies, give them a dumb phone. Don't give them a smartphone until at least 15 or 16, or put their smartphone on a no data service plan to limit their smartphone to wifi usage.
 
Parents have all the tools they need
They just don't want to take the responsibility of being parents
When I was growing up, when my parents said "no" they meant it
They didn't suggest, beg or bribe... they enforced
And they weren't concerned if I "got mad at them" or if I "didn't like them"
Kids don't need parents to be cool, buddies, friends, pals... they need them to be parents
 
We had TV and other things when I was a kid. I just chose to play sports and hang out with friends rather than sit on social media all day.

I think parents should parent. Maybe that means not getting children cell phones. Children didn't need cell phones before nor do they need them now.
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While I would say Apple DID open Pandora's box, it's up to all of us to determine how to use it and up to parents how much to let their kids use it. Why should this be put on Apple any more than alcoholism is put on beer and wine companies? Those companies go on their merry way marketing how fun it is to drink...while people's lives are ruined. It's no different. We as people determine what we do not the companies.
Too much of a good thing can become a bad thing.
 
How about a simple "put the phone down" or just take it from them. How hard is that?

It's not hard at all. Except in my house, I need to take everything else away or they just go to it. Ipad, 3ds, apple tv, PC, etc. I did make the spare room a sort of library with no gadgets. A few couches or reading places. Tables for drawing. My 11 yr old uses it for homework now. My main rule for her phone is not at dinner and not past bedtime. She's an outstanding student but poor organizer (i must get a missing assignment notification once a week). Working on that now.

Anyways, about the room, my family and relative made fun of me (i call it the off the grid room) but they're starting to come around.
 
This has nothing to do with Apple or smartphone use though.

Teens were using social media (MySpace, Friendster, etc.) and getting depressed from it long before smartphones and Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram, etc.

Blame parents for poor parenting. Blame them for giving their kid(s) smartphones at such early ages. If you think your kid needs a phone so you can reach each other in case of emergencies, give them a dumb phone. Don't give them a smartphone until at least 15 or 16, or put their smartphone on a no data service plan to limit their smartphone to wifi usage.
I don't know that cell phone companies in the US offer this for iPhones.
 
Is this another "Caution; this drink it hot" type of nonsense?

Do you know how I control the social media for my 15 years old? She does not have social media because she does not need it. Few years ago when she asked for Instagram and Snapchat we let her use it under the conditions that she would not spend too much time on it. but she abused it and we deleted her accounts and blocked the iPhone to allow her to download any apps and restricted Safari. Same with her MacBook - problem solved and she is doing just fine without that garbage.

Did you forget you used to be a teen?

I've only seen senseless prohibition result in disdai and contempt. For our generation it was about going to concerts, hanging out, whatever. My colleagues usually aren't any better for having a stricter upbringing, they just visit their parents less and sometimes hate them.

Some of my friends that were brought up strict just went all-in on college, ended up with a few high-maintenance scenarios.

Despite of what my generation (and yours even worse) thinks about social media, its a part of their culture, depriving it from that is a senseless punishment that doesnt teach **** about moderation and battling obsession (something you need to know when you grow up).

But what do i know, i dont have kids, and most of people end up fine anyway.
 
Did anyone commenting about it being the responsibility of parents even read the letter? I did.

What they’re asking for in the letter is for better or more comprehensive PARENTAL controls (technical/software) from Apple.

They even pointed out directly that “parents must take ultimate responsibility for their children“ and that “this statement is undoubtedly true”. They indicate that Apple should partner with parents in developing a solution.

*They even indicated they do not expect Apple to be the parents for their kids with iOS devices!*

For anything else, READ THE LETTER first before commenting, ferrcrissakes.

And one may wonder why we have a problem with fake news. We can’t even get people to read and effectively validate the REAL stuff.
 
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Is this another "Caution; this drink it hot" type of nonsense?

Do you know how I control the social media for my 15 years old? She does not have social media because she does not need it. Few years ago when she asked for Instagram and Snapchat we let her use it under the conditions that she would not spend too much time on it. but she abused it and we deleted her accounts and blocked the iPhone to allow her to download any apps and restricted Safari. Same with her MacBook - problem solved and she is doing just fine without that garbage.

So I'm sure she set up alt accounts that you don't know about. Way to go
 
I'd definitely would like to see Apple develop more robust MDM/Parental Management tools inside of the OS and within their iCloud Family Share/Functionality. We currently have the ability to see where their devices are but I can't monitor how often they use them, what apps they use the most, where they go within the browser, youtube (I'm sure that would require additional work with google), and current device status/configuration/settings (with remote management). I know there are 3rd party tools/apps that can be purchased that used in combination with others can cover all of those things.

But this is Apple we're talking about... they can do it... they can do it 'smartly'....and integrate it for free...

Such a commitment and execution would give them a market advantage over their competition that does not have anything comparable.




Apple should do more to reduce growing smartphone addiction among children, said two major investors on Monday (via USA Today). In an open letter to the tech giant, New York-based Jana Partners LLC and the California State Teachers' Retirement System wrote of their increasing concern about the effects of mobile devices and social media on youngsters, urging Apple to offer more tools and choices to help prevent harm.

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The letter cited several studies revealing the negative effects of smartphones and social media on children's mental and physical health. For example, one study found that 67 percent of over 2,300 teachers surveyed believe that the number of students who are negatively distracted by gadgets in the classroom is growing, while 75 percent say students' ability to focus on educational tasks has decreased.

In another study, eighth graders who are heavy users of social media were shown to have a 27 percent higher risk of depression, compared to children who exceed the average time spent playing sports, socializing with friends, or doing homework, all of whom have a much lower risk.

To counter the threat, the investors - who collectively control $2 billion worth of Apple shares - suggested that Apple set up an expert committee including child development specialists and make its information more available to researchers. The letter also proposed enhancing iOS and associated apps to give parents and guardians more resources to protect their children's wellbeing.

Article Link: Investors Urge Apple to Do More to Protect Children From Smartphone Addiction
 
... but is it the responsibility of the platform maker to govern that...

or maybe it should be the kids *parents*?

Not all children have parents unfortunately, and if they are lucky to have even one, said parent can't be present at all times due to work and other obligations.

There are a host of social problems that feed into this. Smartphones are not the issue in my opinion. They are only a symptom.
 
Blame the dumb parents for buying their snot nose kids iPhones. I saw a little girl at the store the other day that was maybe 8 or 9 with a 7 Plus. The mom also had a 7 plus. That's ridiculous.
 
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I don't t think Apple can do much. I mean, like what, stop making really great devices and software? Parents can already use parental controls. Or take devices away for a few hours of "no device time" or something. No one is making parents buy $1000 pocket computers for kids.
 
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This is so true, I have noticed this also with adults. It has affected my family greatly. When we go to family gatherings everyone is on their phones and it seems like we don't talk much.
And how is that Apple’s fault? That’s like blaming a food conglomerate because you’re addicted to the brand of potato chips they sell. Dumb.
 
The issue is that with technology being what it is today, any device can be resurrected even without a base phone service, have apps installed, and be virtually limitless use without a parent even knowing it was done, much less how. I am a software developer, and had an issue with a daughter that went through this phase. I could take them away, she would just come home with a different one from school, cell cards “by the minute” are everywhere, and even the school faculty has expressed to us it is a problem they have little to no control over. So that becomes a fine line, that on one hand I agree it is the parents right and duty to parent, however the means by which to do that are very ambiguous when you have something like parental controls, and the hottest app is “Disable parent controls” or “VPN around your home/school firewall filters”, etc… Children need time to be children, to disconnect from an already over pressuring environment that the social media / app / always connected world has brought into our lives. Vis a vis there Is no harm in my opinion in tech companies trying to put the good foot forward and provide a better set of options on the off chance the kid does have a parent who cares and is looking for better (and functional) options. Their responsibility, no, but a wise choice to secure a future of their product, yes, therefore of interest to the investors.
 
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