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I find the inconsistency between users' experiences of the different iOS versions to be interesting.

I have not used iOS 10 that much because it crippled my iPad Mini 2, but many people are posting that this is working great on their devices and just as many people are posting similar issues to my iPad Mini 2.

On my iPhone 6s Plus, and the Mini, I thought iOS 9 was one of the buggiest, crappiest iOS versions until the one of the last revisions. But, many other people liked it from the beginning.

I found that iOS 8 ran wonderfully on my iPhone 5s and 4s, and my iPad Mini, while many people are posting their frustrations with it.

I am not sure if users' iOS experiences are based on the device, how that device is used, or just subjective interpretation, but it seems like the inconsistency with iOS experiences is incredibly high. Maybe it is a combination of many variables.
I completely agree. I don't think any version of iOS has been completely bug free and everyone makes up their own mind about particular versions of iOS based on how the bugs and/or changes in UI affect them personally. Some people hate that iOS 10 dropped slide to unlock whereas others (like me) only have devices with Touch ID and barely noticed that change. I remembered iOS 8 as being "the worst" as it had bugs that impacted me greatly, whereas others fondly remember iOS 8 as being smooth and fluid. Some think of iOS 6 as the last great version of iOS whereas others find it old fashioned and limited in functionality compared to newer versions.
 
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iPhone 7 is amazing update: the best chip, larger battery, optical image stabilisation, wide colour brighter screen, water resistance, twice storage space and flash speed, Stereo speakers,new Jet Black finish which adds grippiness and alllows to use it without a case also looks like nothing before.

Google Pixel has poor colour accuracy because of OLED, doesn't have optical stabilisation, no wide colours. This is just hardware and let's not talk about software where Google is 4 years behind with their OS security. https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2016/11/24/android-n-encryption/

Just because iPhone 7 has the same case shape don't make it lesser device. It just desire of getting something new, completely irrational. I can understand this for the average consumer but if you read this site and find time to write here I expected you to be more reasonable.

Reasonable would not wait to double capacity 2 years after it should have been done. Reasonable would acknowledge they have a major issue iOS 10.1+ and the battery percentage bug. Reasonable would not put the blame on the users for touch disease and charge them when it is CLEARLY a design failure. Reasonable would be allowing people to not have to upgrade if they don't want to. Reasonable does not exist much with Apple either.

As for the Pixel, I don't really care that much about color of the screen. It's a freak'n screen which I only use to perform functions. I do not do Photoshop color correction or watch movies on my phone where it would be important. Most people can't tell the difference in colors between the iPhone unless you point it out and give them an example in a vibrant photo. Optical stabilization JUST case to the baby brother iPhone this time round. The fact that Google put it together in 9 months is nothing but amazing in the first place. Would I buy the Pixel? No. Would I buy the Pixel 2? We'll see. If they can do that in 9 months, I'm very interested to see what they can do with an existing hardware platform and 12 months to add to it. If anything, you're becoming a "spec" person which is ironic because most Apple folks, myself included at least use to, defend Apple based on experience and not specs.

As for security, I can kind of give you that. They're behind, but from reading the article is seems the only way it's an issue is if you lose your phone and the person has physical access to it. Needless to say, I've never lost my phone. I don't store sensitive information on my phone either, it's a phone after all. Pictures and phone calls.
 
Is that really how those stats are gathered? It seems that it's just based on any active iOS device that visits the App Store during that time period
I'm positive I read sowmehtr that it was based on devices able to update to iOS 10.
 
Reasonable would not wait to double capacity 2 years after it should have been done.

I'm not talking about minimum amount, it was never issue for me because I never bought base version and no one should. I'm taking about maximum amount of 256 GB of super fast storage. Look at the speed test

Reasonable would acknowledge they have a major issue iOS 10.1+ and the battery percentage bug. Reasonable would not put the blame on the users for touch disease and charge them when it is CLEARLY a design failure.

The battery percentage is not iOS 10 bug, it's common issue with batteries which every device has. This can be avoided by calibrating your battery once a month, Apple recommends to do a full cycle on their website for every device with a battery.

Not true, Apple acknowledged Touch Desease and has repair program
I heard very small amount of iPhone 6 Plus affected. https://www.apple.com/support/iphone6plus-multitouch/

Reasonable would be allowing people to not have to upgrade if they don't want to.

No one forcing people to upgrade iOS , yes alert is annoying but most of the people would never update without a prompt. It's not what about people want, it's about moving us forward, not an easy task and always requires transitional pain.

As for the Pixel, I don't really care that much about color of the screen. It's a freak'n screen which I only use to perform functions. I do not do Photoshop color correction or watch movies on my phone where it would be important. Most people can't tell the difference in colors between the iPhone unless you point it out and give them an example in a vibrant photo.

It's not about Photoshop it's about screen you looking every day. Isn't it better for your family photos to be as close to real life colours as possible? Isn't it important for screen to be bright so you can use your iPhone on bright daylight? Even when reading black on white, colours are important.

If anything, you're becoming a "spec" person which is ironic because most Apple folks, myself included at least use to, defend Apple based on experience and not specs.

You right, specs is nothing to experience. But believe me I tried to reason with people on internet and it's much harder for me to prove my point without some facts.

They're behind, but from reading the article is seems the only way it's an issue is if you lose your phone and the person has physical access to it. Needless to say, I've never lost my phone. I don't store sensitive information on my phone either, it's a phone after all. Pictures and phone calls.

Never say never and make sure you have Find My iPhone on and you backed up. I think it's not just about physical access, malware and viruses can steal data on Android, encryption is the last barrier.

You said "it's a phone after all." It's not a phone, it's a computer. For millions of people iPhone is computer they use the most. Lots of people use iPad also, I'm typing this on iPad for instance. It's not a toy, it's a tool to help us connect and evolve our thinking.
 
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I'm not talking about minimum amount, it was never issue for me because I never bought base version and no one should. I'm taking about maximum amount of 256 GB of super fast storage. Look at the speed test

Silly me. I must be too poor to even consider apple since "no one should" have the base version. Hi Phil, came to shame me some more?

The battery percentage is not iOS 10 bug, it's common issue with batteries which every device has. This can be avoided by calibrating your battery once a month, Apple recommends to do a full cycle on their website for every device with a battery.
Sure, you keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile, 97 pages of people say otherwise myself included.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7720595?start=0&tstart=0

Not true, Apple acknowledged Touch Desease and has repair program
I heard very small amount of iPhone 6 Plus affected. https://www.apple.com/support/iphone6plus-multitouch/
Repair program that the USER pays for. Did you read it?

No one forcing people to upgrade iOS , yes alert is annoying but most of the people would never update without a prompt. It's not what about people want, it's about moving us forward, not an easy task and always requires transitional pain.
"No one forcing people" is like the mafia stopping by and saying, "that'd be unfortunate for anything to happen to your ma & pa shop" if you decline to pay for protection. You essentially don't have a choice because your phone becomes ransomware.

It's not about Photoshop it's about screen you looking every day. Isn't it better for your family photos to be as close to real life colours as possible? Isn't it important for screen to be bright so you can use your iPhone on bright daylight? Even when reading black on white, colours are important.
Photo's taken by the Pixel are better than the iPhone, at least that's was plenty of knowledgable people say, so the camera itself isn't in question. So my family photos are as close to real life colors. I highly doubt the Pixel is unusable in bright daylight. Sounds like you're trying to use extremes here. If I'm outside, I'm active doing something and enjoying the outdoors, not spending time with my face in my phone.

Never say never and make sure you have Find My iPhone on and you backed up. I think it's not just about physical access, malware and viruses can steal data on Android, encryption is the last barrier.
Android has a Find my phone equivalent. And really what's the point of backing up your phone? If you're apps are any good they're backing the data up for you on their servers or a provider of your choice.

You said "it's a phone after all." It's not a phone, it's a computer. For millions of people iPhone is computer they use the most. Lots of people use iPad also, I'm typing this on iPad for instance. It's not a toy, it's a tool to help us connect and evolve our thinking.
I think you have it wrong. They use it as an entertainment device most the time. Computer insinuates productivity, which the iPhone does not do. As for your iPad, good for you. But please leave your BS Apple marketing of "it's a tool to help us connect and evolve our thinking". Evolve my thinking? Wow.
 
Nope, video is not trustworthy, you yourself has said so in multiple previous posts. Videos can be manipulated, etc. at any rate, when a video supports some fallacious logic it's trustworthy, other than that it's not. Thankfully there are multiple choice for smartphone consumers.

So your telling me an Apple fan channel manipulated his own videos to make Apple look bad.Okay
 
Google Pixel has poor colour accuracy because of OLED, doesn't have optical stabilisation, no wide colours. This is just hardware and let's not talk about software where Google is 4 years behind with their OS security. https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2016/11/24/android-n-encryption/
Poor colour accuracy because it's OLED? For your information the best display on the planet awards have been given to an OLED.If what you said is true I guess the high end iPhone to be released next year will have poor colour accuracy or does Apple using OLED magically makes it more color accurate. You should take a look at the screens of an S7 Edge.They are drop dead gorgeous
The software based algorithm they used to imitate OSI does its job very very well.And in case you didn't know this camera has been praised as being better than the 7 Plus camera on multiple reviews and has the better Dxomark score

They aren't behind in security in the slightest.Android has the market share which is why hackers target it just like Windows.If iOS or Mac had more market share we would be finding about their vulnerabilities too


Just because iPhone 7 has the same case shape don't make it lesser device. It just desire of getting something new, completely irrational. I can understand this for the average consumer but if you read this site and find time to write here I expected you to be more reasonable.

People have been used to new design changes with a number change since 2007. The incremental changes made in the iPhone 7 are not enough to get people to buy it which is why all performance targets at Apple both external and internal are being missed . This design is getting a little long in the tooth especially looking at phones like the S7 Edge which look miles better than this stale design
 
Yep, your bad. If according to your posts one video can be manipulated so can any other.:rolleyes:

I repeat. So an Apple fan wants to make Apple look bad . The deep sea video had an Apple fan trying to make Apple look good .At least think logically before repeating
 
I repeat. So an Apple fan wants to make Apple look bad . The deep sea video had an Apple fan trying to make Apple look good .At least think logically before repeating
So that's to say that there's possible bias/agenda to everything, in which nothing could be taken at face value anyway then and it's all essentially moot.
 
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Why don't those who keep getting reminders to update just ignore them and delete the update files in storage settings?
Never see it again....bliss.
 
I repeat. So an Apple fan wants to make Apple look bad . The deep sea video had an Apple fan trying to make Apple look good .At least think logically before repeating
So basically any Youtube video can be altered. Got it.
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Poor colour accuracy because it's OLED? For your information the best display on the planet awards have been given to an OLED.If what you said is true I guess the high end iPhone to be released next year will have poor colour accuracy or does Apple using OLED magically makes it more color accurate. You should take a look at the screens of an S7 Edge.They are drop dead gorgeous
The software based algorithm they used to imitate OSI does its job very very well.And in case you didn't know this camera has been praised as being better than the 7 Plus camera on multiple reviews and has the better Dxomark score

They aren't behind in security in the slightest.Android has the market share which is why hackers target it just like Windows.If iOS or Mac had more market share we would be finding about their vulnerabilities too




People have been used to new design changes with a number change since 2007. The incremental changes made in the iPhone 7 are not enough to get people to buy it which is why all performance targets at Apple both external and internal are being missed . This design is getting a little long in the tooth especially looking at phones like the S7 Edge which look miles better than this stale design
So "miles better" is similar to "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder". Apple may have missed targets but rushing designs didn't get Samsung anywhere and missing a target is miles better than the note fiasco. Apple is the only company that made money in the smartphone industry.
 
So basically any Youtube video can be altered. Got it.
Lets for the sake of argument assume the video was altered.How was it altered?You cant intentionally slow down an iPhone like Android nor are there any missing links in the video
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So "miles better" is similar to "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder"
No its actually no contest here to an unbiased person.Which looks better.Just look att those bezels

This
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Or

This
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. Apple may have missed targets but rushing designs didn't get Samsung anywhere and missing a target is miles better than the note fiasco. Apple is the only company that made money in the smartphone industry.
Note 7 wasn't rushed.It was released just a couple of days before the note 5 Leave it to iVerge to distort facts . And Samsung doesn't think anything happened to their brand which is why the Note 8 is now a thing

If Apple keeps missing their targets they will end up like the rest of the Android world
 
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Usually i never go by speedtest someone else did as comparison on Youtube, because they can adjust all sorts to things to make one better than the other...

Its all about who users it, to get a real performance.... Don't care how others use it.. If its slow for them, that doesn't mean it'll be slow for me... Most of the time it is not even a stock iPhone their doing speed tests on, they have some app on there which is not using memory effectively and u can do more on Google for swaying.
 
I wish I could downgrade back to iOS 9 on my iPad Mini.

iOS 10 made it almost unusable at times, especially Safari.

It is now so laggy, and the screen goes totally white when scrolling in Safari. The recent updates made the lagginess slightly better, but the iPad Mini was much more solid on older iOS 8 and 9.

What iPad Mini are you using. My iPad Mini 4 has never had any issues with lag?

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0.4% of Android devices are on Nougat (released 1 month before iOS 10)...just thought I would share that.

That's because Android OEM's Samsung, HTC, Sony e.t.c only care about the money from new devices & don't care about about users that ether bought a device off Contract, or are stuck in a 24 month contract.

They want you to buy their new phone to get the latest Android OS.

Roland
 
I am in the 18%. I got tired of getting burned and now live by the rule that whatever ios/os x comes with my device, stays on my device until I buy a new one. In short, I upgrade hardware... not software.
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Yeah this is honestly not impressive anymore. Not when Apple is forcing you to update. But that's business strategy like everything else.

My 6s Plus is on 9 and staying there. No one is forcing anything.
 
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My 6s Plus is on 9 and staying there. No one is forcing anything.
You've got to put in quite the effort to avoid the update.. I have so many people at work who accidentally updated as they thought they were ignoring the update, but had actually tapped update later. The wording and prompts are directed towards tricking people into updating, especially non techie people.
 
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Why don't those who keep getting reminders to update just ignore them and delete the update files in storage settings?
Never see it again....bliss.
That's what I do.

The problem with that is that the update will download again quickly.

It is an annoying feature and should be easily disabled for people that do not like it.
 
To be honest, Samsung has never been truly impressive for me. I find that it impresses the same kind of people that think Hyundai and Kia are awesome; some sharp aesthetics fool them into thinking they're good products......I wouldn't brag too much about this if I were you.
Congratulations, a new low in condescending drivel ......
 
Uh, because people should be able to do as they please with their device. They should not be strong armed into OS updates which is exactly what Apple does. It's almost on part with MS automatically updating to W10.

Edit: I've seen you've taken to Apple's stance of shaming people for not buy a $700 device every 2 years. Pathetic.

Not sure what the problem is, you can choose NOT to upgrade, my question is why don't you want to upgrade to the newer OS?

Also, smartphones will cost you less than $1 a day for 2 years. Its cheaper than your daily food, electricity, water, rent, and probably than your daily cup of coffee. For something that people rely on so much to get things done and entertain themselves, sounds to me like its worth it. At the end of the 2 years, you can sell it and get some of that money back too.
 
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