iOS 11.2 Beta 3 Introduces Pop-up to Explain Control Center Wi-Fi/Bluetooth Functionality

[Abazigal]

So you just like to push your viewpoint onto others for the fun of it? I’m sure people love you.

Why do you feel the need to explain functionality of Apple products I’ve already mentioned? It’s not rocket science, and causes you to speak in redundancies.
And I recant my previous question about you shilling for Apple. If you did you’d know that having WiFi/Bluetooth on while not connected to anything as you’re driving/walking causes your phone to constantly ping, looking for connections which is proven to drain battery. Which is the same mode of action when you don’t have a cell signal.
You don’t know as much as you think you do.

Any battery drain from leaving Bluetooth and WiFi on all day is minimal at best, and it’s not going to impact the usage habits of most users, in that the extra few percentage points of battery isn’t going to make or break a day.

You know facts, but you don’t know context. Your argument feels like you are grasping at straws here.

 

[B4U]

Because, at least for me it works as intended and I like the concept.

And you are against of having the option to turn it OFF completely by 3D touch?

 

[I7guy]

And you are against of having the option to turn it OFF completely by 3D touch?

That’s not the discussion. But sure if Apple implemented it I wouldn’t be against it.

 

[B4U]

That’s not the discussion. But sure if Apple implemented it I wouldn’t be against it.

That is part of the discussion.
Apple could simply implement that to please both sides but had not done so.

 

[Hitrate]

Let's hope they give us the option to have the control center buttons act like before the update, OR the option to have a REAL off button in the control center, or it could be a 3d touch settings so you have to use more force to really turn it off....i dunno...I was just so used to quickly being able to actually turn off these things (wifi and bluetooth) that it's painful to have to go into settings this much now. Hopefully someone from Apple is reading these responses

 

[Black Tiger]

iOS used to be such an elegant, simple and clear way of accessing a device.
That was a long time ago.

Feature creep. But then they are accused of not innovating when they don’t add unnecessary features. It’s a no win situation.

 

[SteveW928]

It is called wireless. I don't get the love for wires...

I don't necessarily love wires, but they work.

Wireless isn't reliable enough for some purposes. And, when it comes to the audio-jack, then we're talking about adapters (so long as they have Lightning... and then risk damaging the port), or BT which I'm not sure I'm willing to utilize for extended periods of time for health reasons.

 

[CPTmom2wp]

I think that the vast majority of the iPhone using human race do not read tech blogs or watch explanatory videos. The initial pop up box is useful information when the "line" is touched intuitively (questioned by user....what is this on my screen?) So many more people/family members/friends, of all ages, of all educational backgrounds, are using iPhones without any real understanding of the features. 3D Touch is probably not even something most people are even aware of. My guess is that Apple put in the one-time informational box to reduce the number of Support center calls and Carrier store visits for BT and WiFi connection issues.
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Because you use Bluetooth passively to be connected to the always-increasing, always more ubiquitous Apple ecosystem. Have you been prompted to input text from your phone while using Apple TV? Bluetooth. Have you used Continuity and Handoff and continued reading a webpage you started on your phone on the iPad or Mac? Bluetooth. Have you received and answered a call from your iPhone on the iPad or Mac or Apple Watch? Bluetooth (and WiFi at the same protocol). Have you used the Apple Pencil? Bluetooth. Have you used the Apple Watch? Bluetooth. When the HomePod is released guess how will you send music to it? Bluetooth (and WiFi, a combination of both). Have you had any friend sending you a bunch of photos saving your cellular data by using AirDrop only to be informed that “you don’t appear” when they try to AirDrop pictures to you? That’s an inconvenience of not having Bluetooth on. You lose a LOT by disconnecting Bluetooth. Now explain to me why, why anyone would want to give up on all that if all they wanted to do by clicking on the Bluetooth connector was just to disconnect a single specific device (like a headphone)? Why the frustrating experience of receiving a call on the phone and then complaining that you didn’t hear the call while using your Mac (and it was supposed to be interconnected)? People are just stupid and stubbornly clinging to ancient ways by keeping their Bluetooth off. Apple should and DOES de-incentivise what is a harmful practice of less-aware customers with the new Control Center toggles. There are many and increasingly uses of passive Bluetooth and that’s why you should never turn it off. Unless you’re a hermit that only uses an iPhone and, apart from that, is completely oblivious to the Apple ecosystem, you should never turn it off. And if you say that you don’t care for any of these things I’ve mentioned, then why are you using Apple products? If anything, the interconnectedness of their products / ecosystem is precisely what they do best. And Apple should NOT accept the lowest common denominator by allowing people to easily turn Bluetooth off. They should help you to use your product correctly. And with the internet of things (want it or not, that’s the future), you should help people to keep their ecosystem working flawlessly. I’m glad changed Bluetooth with iOS 11 so that I don’t lose my Apple Watch all the time I only disconnected a single Bluetooth device. Get along with the times, folks.

Excellent analysis. What I wanted to say but much better. Thank You!

 

[SteveW928]

Because you use Bluetooth passively to be connected to the always-increasing, always more ubiquitous Apple ecosystem. ... Get along with the times, folks.

I don't actually use a bunch of that stuff and have BT off on my phone most of the time. And, poor UI has little to do with 'getting along with the times.' There are other ways of accomplishing this besides bad UI practices and inconveniencing those who expect things to work as expected.

I think that the vast majority of the iPhone using human race do not read tech blogs or watch explanatory videos. The initial pop up box is useful information when the "line" is touched intuitively ...

Yes, all the more reason for UI to actually make sense!

Let's say you get in the new car you just bought. But, the car designers have decided the hardest part of driving is when you're in reverse, so they changed the steering wheel so that turning right, actually turned left (when going forward) and turning left, actually turned right. So, when you touch the steering wheel for the first time, a HUD pops up, informing you that the wheel turns opposite what you'd expect, but that it will be quite helpful when backing.

I'm sorry, but to someone who has spent a lot of time loving Apple *because* of their superior UI/UX design, this is like a slap in the face.

 

[chucker23n1]

Yes, all the more reason for UI to actually make sense!

Let's say you get in the new car you just bought. But, the car designers have decided the hardest part of driving is when you're in reverse, so they changed the steering wheel so that turning right, actually turned left (when going forward) and turning left, actually turned right. So, when you touch the steering wheel for the first time, a HUD pops up, informing you that the wheel turns opposite what you'd expect, but that it will be quite helpful when backing.

I'm sorry, but to someone who has spent a lot of time loving Apple *because* of their superior UI/UX design, this is like a slap in the face.

I mean, you do realize that this is a terrible analogy, right?

 

[C DM]

I mean, you do realize that this is a terrible analogy, right?

Cars always make good comparisons when it comes to cell phones.

 

[SteveW928]

I mean, you do realize that this is a terrible analogy, right?

It's good in that it makes just about as much sense.

 

[Secondmac]

My WIFI NEVER reconnects after toggling , after going to a new area OR after restarting. Leave we’ll enough alone!!

With iOS 11, Apple changed the way the Bluetooth and Wi-Fi toggles in Control Center work. The two buttons are no longer standard on/off switches, and instead disable Bluetooth and Wi-Fi only for a set period of time.

In the new iOS 11.2 beta released this morning, Apple has added new informational pop-ups to let users know exactly how these toggles work. The new pop-ups explain that Bluetooth and Wi-Fi will be disabled temporarily rather than permanently.

Prior to today's update, the Control Center toggles for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth could be somewhat confusing, because there was no on-device explanation. Apple outlined how the toggles work in a support document, but if you didn't see it, you might wonder why Wi-Fi or Bluetooth were turning themselves back on after being disabled via Control Center.

These new messages will appear the first time the Control Center toggles are used. Subsequent uses will show a message at the top that reads "Disconnecting Nearby Wi-Fi Networks Until Tomorrow" or "Disconnecting Bluetooth Devices Until Tomorrow."

While Apple's new pop-ups offer a better explanation than was previously available, there are other situations where Wi-Fi or Bluetooth might be turned back on sooner than one day. When you use the Wi-Fi toggle in Control Center, Wi-Fi is disabled until one of the following conditions occurs:

- Wi-Fi is reactivated using Control Center
- You connect to a Wi-Fi network using Settings > Wi-Fi
- You walk or drive to a new location
- It's 5:00 a.m. local time
- Your iOS device is restarted

When you use the Bluetooth toggle in Control Center, Bluetooth is disabled until one of the following conditions occurs:

- Bluetooth is reactivated using control Center
- You connect to a Bluetooth accessory in Settings > Bluetooth
- It's 5:00 a.m. local time
- Your iOS device is restarted

To more permanently disable Bluetooth and Wi-Fi on an iOS device running iOS 11, it's necessary to go to the Settings app and toggle these features off in the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth sections. Apple likely made the change to Control Center in iOS 11 for a better overall user experience, as some iPhone and iPad owners might not realize the impact that turning Wi-Fi and Bluetooth off can have when it comes to iOS features like GPS directions, Continuity, and more.

In addition to introducing a message to let users know how Bluetooth and Wi-Fi work in Control Center, on the iPhone X, there's also a small UI change designed to make the Control Center gesture more obvious. Whenever you're on the Lock screen, there's a small bar underneath the icons on the right side of the device, letting you know there's more to see there. The bar is not displayed on the Home screen of an unlocked iPhone X, nor is it displayed within apps.

For those unfamiliar, accessing the Control Center on the iPhone X is done from a swipe down on the top right side of the device rather than a swipe upwards from the bottom.

Article Link: iOS 11.2 Beta 3 Introduces Pop-up to Explain Control Center Wi-Fi/Bluetooth Functionality

 

[Saurabh@1313]

With iOS 11, Apple changed the way the Bluetooth and Wi-Fi toggles in Control Center work. The two buttons are no longer standard on/off switches, and instead disable Bluetooth and Wi-Fi only for a set period of time.

In the new iOS 11.2 beta released this morning, Apple has added new informational pop-ups to let users know exactly how these toggles work. The new pop-ups explain that Bluetooth and Wi-Fi will be disabled temporarily rather than permanently.

Prior to today's update, the Control Center toggles for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth could be somewhat confusing, because there was no on-device explanation. Apple outlined how the toggles work in a support document, but if you didn't see it, you might wonder why Wi-Fi or Bluetooth were turning themselves back on after being disabled via Control Center.

These new messages will appear the first time the Control Center toggles are used. Subsequent uses will show a message at the top that reads "Disconnecting Nearby Wi-Fi Networks Until Tomorrow" or "Disconnecting Bluetooth Devices Until Tomorrow."

While Apple's new pop-ups offer a better explanation than was previously available, there are other situations where Wi-Fi or Bluetooth might be turned back on sooner than one day. When you use the Wi-Fi toggle in Control Center, Wi-Fi is disabled until one of the following conditions occurs:

- Wi-Fi is reactivated using Control Center
- You connect to a Wi-Fi network using Settings > Wi-Fi
- You walk or drive to a new location
- It's 5:00 a.m. local time
- Your iOS device is restarted

When you use the Bluetooth toggle in Control Center, Bluetooth is disabled until one of the following conditions occurs:

- Bluetooth is reactivated using control Center
- You connect to a Bluetooth accessory in Settings > Bluetooth
- It's 5:00 a.m. local time
- Your iOS device is restarted

To more permanently disable Bluetooth and Wi-Fi on an iOS device running iOS 11, it's necessary to go to the Settings app and toggle these features off in the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth sections. Apple likely made the change to Control Center in iOS 11 for a better overall user experience, as some iPhone and iPad owners might not realize the impact that turning Wi-Fi and Bluetooth off can have when it comes to iOS features like GPS directions, Continuity, and more.

In addition to introducing a message to let users know how Bluetooth and Wi-Fi work in Control Center, on the iPhone X, there's also a small UI change designed to make the Control Center gesture more obvious. Whenever you're on the Lock screen, there's a small bar underneath the icons on the right side of the device, letting you know there's more to see there. The bar is not displayed on the Home screen of an unlocked iPhone X, nor is it displayed within apps.

For those unfamiliar, accessing the Control Center on the iPhone X is done from a swipe down on the top right side of the device rather than a swipe upwards from the bottom.

Article Link: iOS 11.2 Beta 3 Introduces Pop-up to Explain Control Center Wi-Fi/Bluetooth Functionality

[doublepost=1513582130][/doublepost]what does that line shows under battery sign in notification panel ?

 

[chucker23n1]

[doublepost=1513582130][/doublepost]what does that line shows under battery sign in notification panel ?

It's presumably meant to make it clearer that you can pull down on that line to reach Control Center.

 

[SteveW928]

It's presumably meant to make it clearer that you can pull down on that line to reach Control Center.

***clearer*** being the operative term. (had a chuckle at that) While I get mobile is a different animal and people - on the whole - are becoming more familiar with technology, I often wonder just how much of hard-earned good UI practice we should chuck out the window.

 

[chelseabelle]

With iOS 11, Apple changed the way the Bluetooth and Wi-Fi toggles in Control Center work. The two buttons are no longer standard on/off switches, and instead disable Bluetooth and Wi-Fi only for a set period of time.

In the new iOS 11.2 beta released this morning, Apple has added new informational pop-ups to let users know exactly how these toggles work. The new pop-ups explain that Bluetooth and Wi-Fi will be disabled temporarily rather than permanently.

Prior to today's update, the Control Center toggles for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth could be somewhat confusing, because there was no on-device explanation. Apple outlined how the toggles work in a support document, but if you didn't see it, you might wonder why Wi-Fi or Bluetooth were turning themselves back on after being disabled via Control Center.

These new messages will appear the first time the Control Center toggles are used. Subsequent uses will show a message at the top that reads "Disconnecting Nearby Wi-Fi Networks Until Tomorrow" or "Disconnecting Bluetooth Devices Until Tomorrow."

While Apple's new pop-ups offer a better explanation than was previously available, there are other situations where Wi-Fi or Bluetooth might be turned back on sooner than one day. When you use the Wi-Fi toggle in Control Center, Wi-Fi is disabled until one of the following conditions occurs:

- Wi-Fi is reactivated using Control Center
- You connect to a Wi-Fi network using Settings > Wi-Fi
- You walk or drive to a new location
- It's 5:00 a.m. local time
- Your iOS device is restarted

When you use the Bluetooth toggle in Control Center, Bluetooth is disabled until one of the following conditions occurs:

- Bluetooth is reactivated using control Center
- You connect to a Bluetooth accessory in Settings > Bluetooth
- It's 5:00 a.m. local time
- Your iOS device is restarted

To more permanently disable Bluetooth and Wi-Fi on an iOS device running iOS 11, it's necessary to go to the Settings app and toggle these features off in the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth sections. Apple likely made the change to Control Center in iOS 11 for a better overall user experience, as some iPhone and iPad owners might not realize the impact that turning Wi-Fi and Bluetooth off can have when it comes to iOS features like GPS directions, Continuity, and more.

In addition to introducing a message to let users know how Bluetooth and Wi-Fi work in Control Center, on the iPhone X, there's also a small UI change designed to make the Control Center gesture more obvious. Whenever you're on the Lock screen, there's a small bar underneath the icons on the right side of the device, letting you know there's more to see there. The bar is not displayed on the Home screen of an unlocked iPhone X, nor is it displayed within apps.

For those unfamiliar, accessing the Control Center on the iPhone X is done from a swipe down on the top right side of the device rather than a swipe upwards from the bottom.

Article Link: iOS 11.2 Beta 3 Introduces Pop-up to Explain Control Center Wi-Fi/Bluetooth Functionality

I accidentally clicked onto the wifi in the control panel on my iPad when I was at home and it stated it was "disconnecting wifi till tomorrow", I couldn't get it to undue, and now it's tomorrow and my home wifi is not even showing up for me to logon to!! Help me please!!

 

[C DM]

I accidentally clicked onto the wifi in the control panel on my iPad when I was at home and it stated it was "disconnecting wifi till tomorrow", I couldn't get it to undue, and now it's tomorrow and my home wifi is not even showing up for me to logon to!! Help me please!!

You would simply tap on the same button in Control Center to enable it again, if that's what you wanted. You can also go to settings and completely turn off WiFi and then turn it back on.

As far as not seeing your home network, have you tried restarting your device? What about your router/modem?

 

[chelseabelle]

You would simply tap on the same button in Control Center to enable it again, if that's what you wanted. You can also go to settings and completely turn off WiFi and then turn it back on.

As far as not seeing your home network, have you tried restarting your device? What about your router/modem?

Thank you for responding, I did try all of the suggestions you made, right after I did it, even restarting my modem and router and nothing worked. I had to call someone in, he really couldn't tell me what caused it, but said it really couldn't be from what i did on my iPad, probably just a coincidence, everything went down in my house at that time

 

[Xemitex]

forgot about this silly thread about this silly UI.
All comes down to people, in general, hating to be controlled or held back.
As we progress into the future, Apple's user base will dwindle into oblivion due to their closed-universe-we-know-what's-best model. The more technologically advanced we become as a society, the less acceptable it will be to not understand how to use technology, which means Apple's controlled environment under the guise of "catering to the technologically incapable" will be unacceptable. I won't be surprised when consumers boycott companies who don't allow full customization of their devices, and attempt to stifle the masses.
Sorry chelseabelle, better start learning how to figure it out on your own.

 

[Zaft]

forgot about this silly thread about this silly UI.
All comes down to people, in general, hating to be controlled or held back.
As we progress into the future, Apple's user base will dwindle into oblivion due to their closed-universe-we-know-what's-best model. The more technologically advanced we become as a society, the less acceptable it will be to not understand how to use technology, which means Apple's controlled environment under the guise of "catering to the technologically incapable" will be unacceptable. I won't be surprised when consumers boycott companies who don't allow full customization of their devices, and attempt to stifle the masses.
Sorry chelseabelle, better start learning how to figure it out on your own.

I know people in their 20s that are very technologically ignorant. IMO there will always be people that don’t understand or don’t care how to use technology.

 

[C DM]

forgot about this silly thread about this silly UI.
All comes down to people, in general, hating to be controlled or held back.
As we progress into the future, Apple's user base will dwindle into oblivion due to their closed-universe-we-know-what's-best model. The more technologically advanced we become as a society, the less acceptable it will be to not understand how to use technology, which means Apple's controlled environment under the guise of "catering to the technologically incapable" will be unacceptable. I won't be surprised when consumers boycott companies who don't allow full customization of their devices, and attempt to stifle the masses.
Sorry chelseabelle, better start learning how to figure it out on your own.

You aren't really describing the overal human race there.

 

[chucker23n1]

As we progress into the future, Apple's user base will dwindle into oblivion due to their closed-universe-we-know-what's-best model.

lol

The more technologically advanced we become as a society, the less acceptable it will be to not understand how to use technology, which means Apple's controlled environment under the guise of "catering to the technologically incapable" will be unacceptable.

Look, Richard Stallman here, the point of technology is not for geeks to circle jerk about how awesome a job they did. It’s for human enrichment. People want tools to make their lives easier and richer or they don’t want them at all.

 

[VulchR]

forgot about this silly thread about this silly UI.
All comes down to people, in general, hating to be controlled or held back.
As we progress into the future, Apple's user base will dwindle into oblivion due to their closed-universe-we-know-what's-best model. The more technologically advanced we become as a society, the less acceptable it will be to not understand how to use technology, which means Apple's controlled environment under the guise of "catering to the technologically incapable" will be unacceptable. I won't be surprised when consumers boycott companies who don't allow full customization of their devices, and attempt to stifle the masses.
Sorry chelseabelle, better start learning how to figure it out on your own.

While I am all for technical education, technology is a means to an end. Technical people sometimes lose perspective, and think the technology itself is the point. Apple's success is based on staying away from that trap, and IBM's fall from dominance was based on it. So chelseabelle, feel free to ask questions here, because most of us want the same thing from technology, and many of those who know the answers to your questions will offer them. Ignore the rest.

 

[SteveW928]

forgot about this silly thread about this silly UI.
All comes down to people, in general, hating to be controlled or held back.
As we progress into the future, Apple's user base will dwindle into oblivion due to their closed-universe-we-know-what's-best model. The more technologically advanced we become as a society, the less acceptable it will be to not understand how to use technology, which means Apple's controlled environment under the guise of "catering to the technologically incapable" will be unacceptable. I won't be surprised when consumers boycott companies who don't allow full customization of their devices, and attempt to stifle the masses.
Sorry chelseabelle, better start learning how to figure it out on your own.

Umm, I'm not sure if you've been observing culture much recently, but we're headed in the *opposite* direction.

In some ways, as others have pointed out, that might be a good thing. Creating good products and user-interfaces means making them less complex, not more (so long as they remain adequate, and don't get in the way of power... which was always Apple's key to success).

But, the general trend has been for things to go more appliance-like, as more of the populace actually dumbs down on tech skills and just doesn't want to be bothered with the detail (or all that tough 'thinking' stuff). Yeah, that's bad as a general trend, but I don't see it reversing any time soon.

Then, there's the blather about 'full customization' baloney that I've been hearing as an argument against the Mac and Apple for decades... which generally shows the person making the comment is relatively clueless.

The reason Apple's move here is bad, is because it is simply really awful UI. It has nothing to do with customizability. If we want a mode where WiFi/BT, etc. is in a semi-disconnected state, there are many ways such a UI could be accomplished and communicated.

I'm not arguing that what Apple is trying to accomplish here is a bad thing... it is all about *HOW* they did it.