iOS 11 beta 10 — Changes and Issues

[Grayburn]

How is watchOS 4 coming? Been wanting to plunge on it as well but afraid I would wind up having to send it back to Apple in the event of any catastrophic bug/glitch/wanting to downgrade.

The latest beta is fine, no complaints here.

 

[Sharkoneau]

Big time visual bug with sharing screenshots, the share menu is shifted towards the top of the screen consistently. Haven’t noticed this in previous betas, reporting now.

 

[demure84]

Seems to be running on my 7+ Plus, people, lag or stutter is inevitable. Apple is surely behind this. They’ll introduce the “fastest we’ve ever built” “the best we’ve ever shipped” voila the animations on newest iPhones will be running buttery smooth and you suckers will be lining up. Year in year out outgoing model gets updated to the latest iOS it’s bound to happen.

When do you recall the latest iOS running ever absolutely smooth on an outgoing model??

 

[ram130]

Totally seeing a lot more stutters through the OS. Even reading email and scrolling through notifications. And nothing is peaking my cpu.

On the plus side. I spot a refine design for quick reply. So that’s new.

 

[GreyOS]

It does seem to be fixed. The operator buttons stay "lit up" but do not seem to prevent input from number keys while so.

Unfortunately for me and others it remains.

By the way the bug isn’t that the operator keys block number keys. The operator key blocks itself. The easiest reproducible steps are quickly typing in 1+2+3. You will get 1+23.

 

[Sid777]

I’m not sure if this is b’coz of wear on my iPhone’s battery, but in this beta cycle my battery percentage drops by huge jumps (like from 56% to 49% or 38% to 27%) instead of dropping by per percentage.

Anyone else seeing the same thing?

 

[thatJohann]

I feel this beta might be a step back from beta 9. Can’t quite put my finger on it but it feels more sluggish and less polished. I wonder what they changed that caused this. Hoping for more polish on the GM.

 

[reptarwilleatu]

A few thoughts on all the endless stream of comments comparing the iOS 11 betas to iOS 10.3.3 that I've seen throughout the beta period.

1. The initial release of a new iOS version is NEVER as fast or fluid as the final revision of the previous version. It has always been this way. Apple's iOS development strategy is to pack most-to-all of the new features into the X.0 release in a (mostly) stable format and then focus on any straggler features and speed/stability improvements later. That is why there have been X.2 and X.3 releases with most iOS versions. The comparison between iOS 11.0 and iOS 10.3.3 is not fair because you are comparing brand new (beta) software and a revision of iOS 10 that was release over six month after the original build. Apple had a lot of time to optimize the software in iOS 10.3.3 so of course it is faster. Now, we could argue until we are blue in the face about whether it's a good thing that Apple handles iOS development this way. I personally don't like it and would be fine with extending the development cycle from a year to a year and a half if it meant the releases were faster and more stable right from the start. But, I don't work for Apple and clearly have no control over how they do things.
2. While iOS 11.0 might not be as fast or as stable as iOS 10.3.3, it is WAY better than some earlier X.0 builds. Anyone who remembers iOS 7 knows what I'm talking about. iOS 7.0 was so buggy at launch that it was borderline unusable (especially on iPad). I am still amazed to this day that Apple allowed that initial release out the door in the condition it was in. Likewise, iOS 8.0 was also pretty buggy at launch, and the iOS 8.0.1 update actually broke the cellular radio on all the new iPhone 6 models Apple had just started selling. I agree things might not be quite as good as they could be. But, things have come a long way from the self-inflicted disaster that was the iOS 7 launch.
3. At this late point in the beta process, Apple rarely makes any major changes to the software. Keep in mind that, at this point, software is having to be installed on the new iPhones Apple is about to announce next week. Apple can't really make changes without having a discrepancy between the new phones and older models. Yes, that could be remedied with a launch day software update. However, Apple tends to shy away from those it seems (probably because it implies the phone wasn't good-to-go as sold). Most major changes stop coming around beta 5-6 and it becomes small, behind the scenes changes that you might not even notice. Anything that hasn't been fixed or sped up by this point is probably not coming until iOS 11.1. This includes the iMessage syncing (unfortunately) and even the lagginess in the 3D Touch animations (which I think has been way overblown here).
4. Ranting about these issues here does nothing except polarize the conversation. Apple doesn't read these forums. If you haven't yet reported your pet issue through the Feedback app, go do that now. If you have already done that, there's really not much else you can do. Posting about the same issues over and over and over again does nothing except polarize the conversation, with tons of snippy posts like "if you hate the lag so much, go back to iOS 10" or "if you can't understand how terrible this bug is, you must be a moron". I'm paraphrasing of course, but that really feels like what the last few beta threads have devolved into. It's no longer fostering constructive discussion and it's just making everyone angry. I think it's time for everyone to take a breath and realize the issues people are focusing on here are relatively minor and will likely get fixed in the next month or two. The good news is that Apple usually starts seeding betas for the X.1 build within a few weeks of the public X.0 release.

Sorry for the long post but I really feel that the back-and-forth had gotten to be a bit much and these things needed to be said.

million times yes
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Changing Apple TV volume via the control center Remote function now also changes ringer volume. Annoying bug, submitting feedback and I hope they fix it by the GM.

not a showstopper so that’s not going to happen. also that’s not a bug, the Remote app itself has no way of adjusting the volume of the TV like the Apple TV remote does
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I feel this beta might be a step back from beta 9. Can’t quite put my finger on it but it feels more sluggish and less polished. I wonder what they changed that caused this. Hoping for more polish on the GM.

have you reset or done a restore?
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Big time visual bug with sharing screenshots, the share menu is shifted towards the top of the screen consistently. Haven’t noticed this in previous betas, reporting now.

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not really a “big time” bug, but definitely good to report it
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If there is, it might be tomorrow

yeah, i can’t see that happening, but then again we are in uncharted territory. they have seeded builds on fridays in the past. if there is one more build though, i would guess tomorrow as well

 

[thatJohann]

Big time visual bug with sharing screenshots, the share menu is shifted towards the top of the screen consistently. Haven’t noticed this in previous betas, reporting now.

View attachment 716161

I’m unable to reproduce this. On a 7 Plus.

 

[NedFlanders]

I feel this beta might be a step back from beta 9. Can’t quite put my finger on it but it feels more sluggish and less polished. I wonder what they changed that caused this. Hoping for more polish on the GM.

I felt the same way at first but I think it may have been doing some background optimising as my 6S+ seems to be smoother after leaving it alone for an hour.

Looks like the handoff issues I was having between my iDevices and my Mac Mini have been resolved with this update.

 

[Sharkoneau]

I’m unable to reproduce this. On a 7 Plus.

Gotcha. Very odd, I also have a 5S on the latest beta - can’t reproduce it on that device. Perhaps a reset will knock things back into shape.

EDIT: It sure did! Back to normal 🙂

 

[Paddle1]

Seems to be running on my 7+ Plus, people, lag or stutter is inevitable. Apple is surely behind this. They’ll introduce the “fastest we’ve ever built” “the best we’ve ever shipped” voila the animations on newest iPhones will be running buttery smooth and you suckers will be lining up. Year in year out outgoing model gets updated to the latest iOS it’s bound to happen.

When do you recall the latest iOS running ever absolutely smooth on an outgoing model??

The 6s outperforms the 7 in this video:

The animations were weird on the 7 in particular. Apple needs time to optimize the OS.

 

[dan9700]

I feel this beta might be a step back from beta 9. Can’t quite put my finger on it but it feels more sluggish and less polished. I wonder what they changed that caused this. Hoping for more polish on the GM.

your right its still no where Final standard I have a feeling the GM isn't gonna be polished its a shame after should a long beta cycle

 

[reptarwilleatu]

I felt the same way at first but I think it may have been doing some background optimising as my 6S+ seems to be smoother after leaving it alone for an hour.

Looks like the handoff issues I was having between my iDevices and my Mac Mini have been resolved with this update.

did you have to do anything? i’ve noticed the same thing with Handoff
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your right its still no where Final standard I have a feeling the GM isn't gonna be polished its a shame after should a long beta cycle

go read the big long post earlier in this thread

 

[Looney01]

A few thoughts on all the endless stream of comments comparing the iOS 11 betas to iOS 10.3.3 that I've seen throughout the beta period.

1. The initial release of a new iOS version is NEVER as fast or fluid as the final revision of the previous version. It has always been this way. Apple's iOS development strategy is to pack most-to-all of the new features into the X.0 release in a (mostly) stable format and then focus on any straggler features and speed/stability improvements later. That is why there have been X.2 and X.3 releases with most iOS versions. The comparison between iOS 11.0 and iOS 10.3.3 is not fair because you are comparing brand new (beta) software and a revision of iOS 10 that was release over six month after the original build. Apple had a lot of time to optimize the software in iOS 10.3.3 so of course it is faster. Now, we could argue until we are blue in the face about whether it's a good thing that Apple handles iOS development this way. I personally don't like it and would be fine with extending the development cycle from a year to a year and a half if it meant the releases were faster and more stable right from the start. But, I don't work for Apple and clearly have no control over how they do things.
2. While iOS 11.0 might not be as fast or as stable as iOS 10.3.3, it is WAY better than some earlier X.0 builds. Anyone who remembers iOS 7 knows what I'm talking about. iOS 7.0 was so buggy at launch that it was borderline unusable (especially on iPad). I am still amazed to this day that Apple allowed that initial release out the door in the condition it was in. Likewise, iOS 8.0 was also pretty buggy at launch, and the iOS 8.0.1 update actually broke the cellular radio on all the new iPhone 6 models Apple had just started selling. I agree things might not be quite as good as they could be. But, things have come a long way from the self-inflicted disaster that was the iOS 7 launch.
3. At this late point in the beta process, Apple rarely makes any major changes to the software. Keep in mind that, at this point, software is having to be installed on the new iPhones Apple is about to announce next week. Apple can't really make changes without having a discrepancy between the new phones and older models. Yes, that could be remedied with a launch day software update. However, Apple tends to shy away from those it seems (probably because it implies the phone wasn't good-to-go as sold). Most major changes stop coming around beta 5-6 and it becomes small, behind the scenes changes that you might not even notice. Anything that hasn't been fixed or sped up by this point is probably not coming until iOS 11.1. This includes the iMessage syncing (unfortunately) and even the lagginess in the 3D Touch animations (which I think has been way overblown here).
4. Ranting about these issues here does nothing except polarize the conversation. Apple doesn't read these forums. If you haven't yet reported your pet issue through the Feedback app, go do that now. If you have already done that, there's really not much else you can do. Posting about the same issues over and over and over again does nothing except polarize the conversation, with tons of snippy posts like "if you hate the lag so much, go back to iOS 10" or "if you can't understand how terrible this bug is, you must be a moron". I'm paraphrasing of course, but that really feels like what the last few beta threads have devolved into. It's no longer fostering constructive discussion and it's just making everyone angry. I think it's time for everyone to take a breath and realize the issues people are focusing on here are relatively minor and will likely get fixed in the next month or two. The good news is that Apple usually starts seeding betas for the X.1 build within a few weeks of the public X.0 release.

Sorry for the long post but I really feel that the back-and-forth had gotten to be a bit much and these things needed to be said.

You would think that Apple would have fixed all bugs and performance issues by now since, you know, they've had a year to do it...

Apple started working on iOS 11 when iOS 10 was launched, the same way they are already working on iOS 12. So they have a whole damn year to perfect their software but no, they have to release buggy software and only perfect it when they launch the beta of their next iOS. Apple seem to have lost the plot, even their 10th anniversary iPhone is going to be a disappointment to many, with that horrible cut out at the top, Touch ID on the back. Apple has taken a big step backwards under Tim Cooks leadership.

 

[aaallleeennn]

On i7+ works perfect after resetting settings. No lag with 3D touch, opening and closing apps super fast. On Antutu 175K points

 

[eveluvsrainbows]

Unbelievable after 10 betas still on 7 plus horrible 3d touch and shutting apps animation is slow if this is like gm then apple is crazy

It's a minor stutter. It's not a big issue. Why do you care so much about a tiny stutter?

 

[Mlrollin91]

You would think that Apple would have fixed all bugs and performance issues by now since, you know, they've had a year to do it...

Apple started working on iOS 11 when iOS 10 was launched, the same way they are already working on iOS 12. So they have a whole damn year to perfect their software but no, they have to release buggy software and only perfect it when they launch the beta of their next iOS. Apple seem to have lost the plot, even their 10th anniversary iPhone is going to be a disappointment to many, with that horrible cut out at the top, Touch ID on the back. Apple has taken a big step backwards under Tim Cooks leadership.

And how can Apple get feedback without seeding it to developers. There are only so many things Apple can test internally. Doesn't matter if they have 1 year or 5 years. The meat of the bugs aren't discovered until beta phase begins and people start reporting it. Thats probably the biggest reason why Public Beta was introduced. More users, more bug reports.

And now you are using rumors to justify your point about the iPhone 8 and the lack of "leadership". Definitely drops the credibility of your point.

 

[Chazzle]

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[I7guy]

The 6s outperforms the 7 in this video:

The animations were weird on the 7 in particular. Apple needs time to optimize the OS.

I'd like to see this using iOS 11 b10. Not an older version of iOS 10.

 

[Roque1128]

Does anyone else have this issue? It says that I’ve only used 51 gb of my 128, but my Apple Music says I’ve taken up 80gb?? Any ideas? Maybe I’m just an idiot. I download all my music from Apple Music that way I don’t use data, so I’m confused.

 

[roncron]

iOS 11.0 seems to be a more ambitious upgrade from iOS 10.0 than 10.0 was from 9.0.

That might explain why there are more betas, or why, at this late stage of the beta period, some beta testers are experiencing more hiccups remaining compared to at the same stage in iOS 10's beta period.

 

[Mlrollin91]

Does anyone else have this issue? It says that I’ve only used 51 gb of my 128, but my Apple Music says I’ve taken up 80gb?? Any ideas? Maybe I’m just an idiot. I download all my music from Apple Music that way I don’t use data, so I’m confused.

It appears the top bar is reporting it wrong. Because the graph definitely shows more than 51GB being used. Looks to be about 75GB is being used. Still less than your music so I can't comment on that. But the 51GB/128GB is definitely off.

 

[Roque1128]

It appears the top bar is reporting it wrong. Because the graph definitely shows more than 51GB being used. Looks to be about 75GB is being used. Still less than your music so I can't comment on that. But the 51GB/128GB is definitely off.

Yeah it’s been like that since beta 1 if I’m not mistaken.

 

[Mlrollin91]

Yeah it’s been like that since beta 1 if I’m not mistaken. I wish I had an accurate reading.

What happens if you plug into iTunes?

Or look at the General -> About, instead of Storage?