iOS 11 beta 10 — Changes and Issues

[Freakonomics101]

Beta 10 ! Still noticing the home button lag for iPhone 7 and 7+ but it never bothers me. Not really noticing any issues, at least for me. Hoping battery life improves like it was on iOS 10 but who knows. My iPhone would be at or around 50% at the end of the day but it’s a tad different when I have the day off from work but even then, still had a lot of juice left at the end of the day.

 

[Nhott]

Anyone else notice that you can pull down the cover sheet behind control center? Drag down diagonally from either the top left or right sides of the screen.

Control center also goes crazy if you keep a finger on the screen and try to pull down with another.

 

[az431]

How hard is it to make pressing home button shut app like ios 10.3.3 theres still a delay its annoying and i aint keep moaning but apple needs to stop the chopyness on ios 11 10 betas are insane to still have problems by now it should be perfect

Not having this issue on any of the four devices I’ve installed 11 on. Anytime there is a battery or performance issue most other people aren’t experiencing try powering your device off and back on.

 

[trifid]

Is anyone testing this with iPhone SE/5s? I can't believe this bug hasn't been fixed yet:

[doublepost=1504751217][/doublepost]And what about the podcast app when navigation is enabled, volume and play controls overlap hindering usability:

 

[pedrowerner]

iPad Pro 10.5 lock screen with no clock.

 

[toughnut]

I seldom use 3D Touch but I do notice quite a bit of delay for the menu pop up.

 

[mmccorm4]

Anybody having No Sim issues?? I randomly keep having the No Sim error pop up. It’s hard to tell what is causing it. I’ll try to see if I can document when it happens.

 

[bmcfadden]

is anyone having issues when updating apps or installing apps and it stalls? have to reboot to do anything.

 

[HylianKnight]

I wont stop until its fixed that's what the forum is about problems so dont tell me what to post cheers

My own opinion—this forum is for developer and user discussion about ios 11. Features, bugs, fixes, etc. Repeating yourself here does little to nothing in telling Apple about the problem. I know this issue bothers you and as such, I hope you are taking advantage of the feedback app.

You will see issues all the way through to release. Bugs are also likely following release. That is normal for practically all software. I take no issue with your posts, but, and I don’t say this to be rude, maybe contribute some other bugs that you come across and not just the one that irks you. We are all here to expand our knowledge. Beating a dead horse doesn’t contribute in that regard.

 

[AZhappyjack]

I wont stop until its fixed that's what the forum is about problems so dont tell me what to post cheers

No, it's not what the forum is about. The forum is for users to discuss issues, problems and praises for all things Apple. If you want Apple to do (or change) something, report it. Bug the crap out of them the way you do us... at least they have the ability to do something about your issues, real or perceived... we do not. The forum is not your personal soapbox from which you can continue to beat that single drum, ad nauseum. Go tell Apple about it.

 

[sbailey4]

I've seen the same like 4 or 5 people talking about it, so "just about everyone else" seems a bit dramatic lol.

It’s there. It’s not lag but a frame drop when the 3d menus open. You will see a little jerk motion if u watch it closely. You may not really notice it if not really looking. And more than 4 or 5 people have it, more like everyone. It will be fixed eventually.

 

[d5aqoëp]

BTW, on 7 Plus, launch any app and quickly press the close button.
iOS 10: App closes instantly midway of the animation
iOS 11: App opens. The animation completes. 1 second delay is introduced and then the app closes.
This makes our phone look slower.

This here is planned obsolescence. This has been done deliberately so that next iDevice appears snappier. Subtle but noticeable enough.

 

[Ladin007]

On i7+ works perfect after resetting settings. No lag with 3D touch, opening and closing apps super fast. On Antutu 175K points

Can somebody else confirm this with iphone 7???

 

[Feenician]

BTW, on 7 Plus, launch any app and quickly press the close button.
iOS 10: App closes instantly midway of the animation
iOS 11: App opens. The animation completes. 1 second delay is introduced and then the app closes.
This makes our phone look slower.

This here is planned obsolescence. This has been done deliberately so that next iDevice appears snappier. Subtle but noticeable enough.

Wouldn’t that, you know, make the next phone seem slower too?

 

[Paddle1]

Wouldn’t that, you know, make the next phone seem slower too?

Well, it's not supposed to have a home button.

Still, this delay is on every device with a physical home button so it probably was meant to be there in the first place.

 

[Feenician]

Well, it's not supposed to have a home button.

Still, this delay is on every device with a physical home button so it probably was meant to be there in the first place.

It will still have a way of returning to the home screen, won’t it? What do you think is more likely. That this blocking animation that we’ve seen many times over the last five years of iOS that is sometimes fixed and sometimes ignored on all device is a bug or inefficiency, or is a super evil plan of forced obsolescence that, for some reason, won’t affect the new phones? If you really consider this, which seems more likely?

 

[Radon87000]

We'll all I can say is that it worked as you are preordering an iPhone x edition. Can't wait for the public release of iOS 11, my two 5s are now flying fast.

I can afford an iPhone every year so I don’t care all that much. However there’s no way I would use iOS for long term use. I would rather use a fast older version of any OS than a slower newer version with frame drops all over the place.

Damn .. what a delay, lag and slow animation on my iPhone 7 .. Apple is losing control of animations and glitches ..

Every single thing on my phone since I just installed iOS 11 is sluggish. That’s a perfect word to describe it. I play plenty of demanding games and by those standards it’s safe to say iOS 11 is bringing the A10 and it’s GPU to its knees. It’s definitely not 60fps smooth like on iOS 10.

Anyone know if 3D Touch and “leave app for home screen” are still lagging?
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3DT menu is stuttering with no delay. Leave app for home screen still has a delay.

A few thoughts on all the endless stream of comments comparing the iOS 11 betas to iOS 10.3.3 that I've seen throughout the beta period.

1. The initial release of a new iOS version is NEVER as fast or fluid as the final revision of the previous version. It has always been this way. Apple's iOS development strategy is to pack most-to-all of the new features into the X.0 release in a (mostly) stable format and then focus on any straggler features and speed/stability improvements later. That is why there have been X.2 and X.3 releases with most iOS versions. The comparison between iOS 11.0 and iOS 10.3.3 is not fair because you are comparing brand new (beta) software and a revision of iOS 10 that was release over six month after the original build. Apple had a lot of time to optimize the software in iOS 10.3.3 so of course it is faster. Now, we could argue until we are blue in the face about whether it's a good thing that Apple handles iOS development this way. I personally don't like it and would be fine with extending the development cycle from a year to a year and a half if it meant the releases were faster and more stable right from the start. But, I don't work for Apple and clearly have no control over how they do things.
2. While iOS 11.0 might not be as fast or as stable as iOS 10.3.3, it is WAY better than some earlier X.0 builds. Anyone who remembers iOS 7 knows what I'm talking about. iOS 7.0 was so buggy at launch that it was borderline unusable (especially on iPad). I am still amazed to this day that Apple allowed that initial release out the door in the condition it was in. Likewise, iOS 8.0 was also pretty buggy at launch, and the iOS 8.0.1 update actually broke the cellular radio on all the new iPhone 6 models Apple had just started selling. I agree things might not be quite as good as they could be. But, things have come a long way from the self-inflicted disaster that was the iOS 7 launch.
3. At this late point in the beta process, Apple rarely makes any major changes to the software. Keep in mind that, at this point, software is having to be installed on the new iPhones Apple is about to announce next week. Apple can't really make changes without having a discrepancy between the new phones and older models. Yes, that could be remedied with a launch day software update. However, Apple tends to shy away from those it seems (probably because it implies the phone wasn't good-to-go as sold). Most major changes stop coming around beta 5-6 and it becomes small, behind the scenes changes that you might not even notice. Anything that hasn't been fixed or sped up by this point is probably not coming until iOS 11.1. This includes the iMessage syncing (unfortunately) and even the lagginess in the 3D Touch animations (which I think has been way overblown here).
4. Ranting about these issues here does nothing except polarize the conversation. Apple doesn't read these forums. If you haven't yet reported your pet issue through the Feedback app, go do that now. If you have already done that, there's really not much else you can do. Posting about the same issues over and over and over again does nothing except polarize the conversation, with tons of snippy posts like "if you hate the lag so much, go back to iOS 10" or "if you can't understand how terrible this bug is, you must be a moron". I'm paraphrasing of course, but that really feels like what the last few beta threads have devolved into. It's no longer fostering constructive discussion and it's just making everyone angry. I think it's time for everyone to take a breath and realize the issues people are focusing on here are relatively minor and will likely get fixed in the next month or two. The good news is that Apple usually starts seeding betas for the X.1 build within a few weeks of the public X.0 release.

Sorry for the long post but I really feel that the back-and-forth had gotten to be a bit much and these things needed to be said.

I disagree. My iPhone 6 never reached the pinnacle of performance of iOS 8.4.1 all the way till iOS 10. By the time we reach the last version of iOS 11 we would have all forgotten how iOS 10 performed so we think iOS 11 speed is just fine.

Seems to be running on my 7+ Plus, people, lag or stutter is inevitable. Apple is surely behind this. They’ll introduce the “fastest we’ve ever built” “the best we’ve ever shipped” voila the animations on newest iPhones will be running buttery smooth and you suckers will be lining up. Year in year out outgoing model gets updated to the latest iOS it’s bound to happen.

When do you recall the latest iOS running ever absolutely smooth on an outgoing model??

I can almost guarantee the 7S and the 8 will both not have this delay and will perform like the 7 Plus used to on iOS 10. Planned Obsolescence dialler up to 11 is what this is. Apple has not at all bothered to optimise iOS 11 for their former flagship.

It's a minor stutter. It's not a big issue. Why do you care so much about a tiny stutter?

Because this stutter was not there on iOS 10 and iOS 11 added nothing to iOS 10 apart from a redesign and some app updates which merits this stutter.

Even I noticed the reduction in performance. If too many people make noise, it will be passed as bug. Otherwise they have to show everyone that new iPhone 8 iris scanner is fastest. Hence the speed adjustment.

Bingo.

BTW, on 7 Plus, launch any app and quickly press the close button.
iOS 10: App closes instantly midway of the animation
iOS 11: App opens. The animation completes. 1 second delay is introduced and then the app closes.
This makes our phone look slower.

This here is planned obsolescence. This has been done deliberately so that next iDevice appears snappier. Subtle but noticeable enough.

This is especially noticeable to my gamer eyes. I play on a 144hz Dell S2714DG and I am extremely sensitive to those subtle drops.

Even Android Nougat Betas were more optimised than iOS 11 ones on older devices.

 

[E.Neytman]

BTW, on 7 Plus, launch any app and quickly press the close button.
iOS 10: App closes instantly midway of the animation
iOS 11: App opens. The animation completes. 1 second delay is introduced and then the app closes.
This makes our phone look slower.

This here is planned obsolescence. This has been done deliberately so that next iDevice appears snappier. Subtle but noticeable enough.

Well, not right. i7 is so powerfull, even i6s, that the animation of folders is the sane as i8 will be.

For ios11 b10, i have to say its a lot more polished than initial ios 10 release.

One annoing thing - if you open an app fron a folder, and then press home, so that you see an open folder again, you cant immediately press anywhere on the screen to close the folder - you have to wait 1sec while visibly the phone is doing nothing.

 

[trifid]

One annoing thing - if you open an app fron a folder, and then press home, so that you see an open folder again, you cant immediately press anywhere on the screen to close the folder - you have to wait 1sec while visibly the phone is doing nothing.

+100000

This is annoying the heck out of me. Ridiculous input-blocking alive and well for the 10-year iPhone anniversary.

 

[Reno Raines]

For me it fixed a battery drain issue.

 

[MarcusCarpenter]

Can someone post battery stats, on iOS 10 I get 10hours usage, are we near that yet?

 

[ram130]

Can someone post battery stats, on iOS 10 I get 10hours usage, are we near that yet?

With this new beta. I wanna say yes it’s close. Battery life feels improved. Seeing the same on my iPad Pro 10.5.

 

[Radon87000]

Can anyone confirm if dragging the notification centre down or swiping up the control centre doesn’t have that Taptic thump vibration on the 7 Plus?

 

[ram130]

Can anyone confirm if dragging the notification centre down or swiping up the control centre doesn’t have that Taptic thump vibration on the 7 Plus?

It doesn’t. I knew something was missing.

 

[Radon87000]

It doesn’t. I knew something was missing.

Yeah it feels like something natural at this point and the phone doesn’t feel the same. I never knew how much I missed having it.