iOS 11 Concept Imagines Overhauled iPad Interface With Drag-and-Drop Functionality

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  1. jonnysods macrumors 601

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    OK I'm going to have to grab this, thanks!!
     
  2. nzgeorge macrumors member

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  3. Defthand macrumors 6502

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    Not at all. I'm merely reporting a sentiment that is typical of the elders I know, and a common experience for the aging. Realize that you are an outlier. I've watched my parents succumb to dementia. We tried to stimulate their minds with iPads—encouraging them to listen to podcasts, order iBooks, watch Netflix, play simple games or puzzles, or research interests. We tried to increase our interaction with them using FaceTime. Ultimately, they had no interest in solitary activities. They found text messaging and email impersonal. FaceTime was amusing to them at first glance, but made them shy and unconversational.

    We expect our tech toys to satisfy, or assist with, every human yearning. Now futurists want to augment our reality and evetually create virtual realities for us to live in. No thanks. I'd rather physically visit an actual location, experience real events, and have real sex. That's why old timers, including myself, aren't as enthused about tech.
     
  4. gijoeinla macrumors 6502

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    Thank u :)
     
  5. panjandrum macrumors regular

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    The best way they could make it not-pointless would be to add a good UI, simplicity, consistency, and usability back into iOS. One of my friends who has also worked in the computer-industry his entire life but only recently came back to Apple products after a multi-year hiatus (I warned him there was no longer any compelling reason to return) said this: "What the hell happened? All of this used to make perfect sense. Now it's just a bunch of random sh*t you're supposed to memorize!"
     
  6. sracer macrumors 603

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    Sorry but no. Documents by Readdle is NOT the directory/finder iOS is missing. Seriously, I wish people would stop overselling what Documents does. It is an app like any other app and has the limitations of sandboxed storage like any other app.
     
  7. TechGeek76 Suspended

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    My point was, to point out, he didn't just hired because of some conceptual video/image on the internet. He worked his way to where he is.
     
  8. Brammy macrumors 65816

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    This is true, but it's also one heck of a way to deal with things like ZIP files and the like.
     
  9. FasterQuieter macrumors regular

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    Seems fiddly and annoying. Speaking for myself I'd appreciate the existence of these functions, but doubt I'd ever use them. I don't even use the split screen function. It makes the 2 apps too small. I'm happy with full screen apps for mainly consumption on the iPad, and moving to a Mac for everything else.
     
  10. ateslik macrumors regular

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    fair enough, but it's the best we got right now I think you would agree. It has helped my productivity a lot on my ipad.

    The sandboxed storage is not nearly as limiting as it normally feels because they have done such a good job with share sheets. You can push and pull documents and files between most apps really easily. On top of that the very good FTP support, Dropbox support, One Drive support, etc, makes the sandbox feel like it has very weak walls. But you're correct, data is getting duplicated.
     
  11. whohasaquestion macrumors 6502

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    My wish list for iOS 11:

    1. Don't slow down my device. :)

    End.
     
  12. alexgowers macrumors 65816

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    I've always felt the iPad is a computer without any extra abilities over the iPhone. I really want to see some more computer like functions and extras that don't exist on iPhone. Sure having a universal experience is great but with all that extra space most things seem redundant that work well on iPhones. Having a proper file browser is high on the list along with some USBc ports and a mouse pointer if used with a keyboard and mouse, usbc could let you use HDMI and an external monitor. App home page customisation and widgets should be there too, with so much space having spaced out apps and nothing else is such a waste. More options in control centre and notifications, better multitasking and more is needed. Not having things like a timer when the iPhone does seems weird too, there are many reasons to buy an iPad but currently none of them are in iOS for the iPad right now, it's like apple is purposefully handicapping it.
     
  13. Royal Gala macrumors regular

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    You are talking about priorities now, but your original point was about prevention rather than priorities. You claimed that Apple's current projects, such as the development of pizza boxes, are preventing them from altering app grid spacing on the iPad. As I mentioned previously, that claim has no validity.
     
  14. StyxMaker macrumors 68000

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    In your first sentence you deny being ageist. Your second sentence is the very essence of group prejudice.

    Don't generalize your experience with your parents as representing the entire population of aging people. Which you did when you wrote 'the aging mind...' without qualifying with something like 'in some cases'.
     
  15. Bacillus, May 22, 2017
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    Indeed, wrong priorities prevented it to happen. Stow them away in a pizza box.
    Happy hiking.
     
  16. iPadCary, May 22, 2017
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    What I'd like to see in an iOS update is when you double-click the home button,
    instead of all the open apps apearing as Cover Flow, they all appear
    at about the size of a square made up of four app icons,
    four or five app images per row. "Expose for iPad Method" let's call it.

    Apps that haven't been used in months are all the way to the left,
    and using the "Cover Flow Method", you have to swipe through.
    Each. And every. Open. App. One. At. A time ....
    It takes takes a long time to get to an earlier opened app.

    Using the "Expose for iPad Method", you just quickly
    flick down to the bottom of the "list" four or five apps at a time.
     
  17. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    Fine. Change the name of the video to iOS 12 concept then. It's still a good video and what Apple should be working towards. Copy and pate on the iPad is so clunky. It doesn't even work right on this very website often grabbing things you don't want. You have to fight it to get it to do what you want. A user should not have to fight an OS to get things accomplished. It should "just work". Drag and drop of photos would be nice too. This stuff could all work so easier if Apple would just put the time and effort into doing so.
     
  18. Royal Gala, May 23, 2017
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    The rationale that the development of a pizza box represents a priority, which has prevented Apple from altering app grid spacing on the iPad, doesn't add up. Here are just a couple of reasons why.

    Firstly, pizza box engineers are unlikely to be working on iPad grid spacing. The skills necessary for hardware engineering and software engineering are different. So the trade-off between the development of pizza boxes and iOS software development that you are putting forward is a false one. A team of hardware engineers did not decide to prioritise the development of pizza boxes over software development on the iPad.

    Secondly, just because the grid spacing of apps hasn't yet been changed on the iPad, doesn't mean that Apple's software team isn't actively working on it. The pizza box coming first doesn't imply that its development has come at the cost of Apple being prevented from working on iPad grid spacing. Instead, it may just be the case that while Apple's hardware team have had success in the development of a pizza box, Apple's software team have not yet found a good solution with regards to refining app grid spacing on the iPad.

    Another possibility is that Apple's software team didn't think that iPad app grid spacing needed to be altered in the first place and, accordingly, haven't been working on doing so.

    Whichever way one looks at it, there is one fact that remains constant: the development of a pizza box has not prevented Apple from working on iPad app grid spacing.
     
  19. Bacillus, May 23, 2017
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    You seem to forget that it all comes together at SVP Sir J. Ive who is responsible for all design activity and assorted priorities.
    Given his dept.'s output over the last 3,4 years, he clearly is less focused/motivated on Apple products but merely on Christmas trees, offices, doorknobs, packaging, round pizza boxes. No one dares to instruct him, realign him, or either ask him to consider a transfer to the food/furniture industry as these side-activities continue to go at cost of Apple product & UI design. So I am afraid we must mentally prepare ourselves on even more idiosyncrasies (round toiletpaper sheets...?) before iPad software optimalisation will even be considered.

    Pizza boxes...its just as ludicrous as embarassing how inflated Apple industrial design has become.
     
  20. smoledman macrumors 68000

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    Nah, what I really wish Apple would let me do is separate the app icons from the app list. I want to have a cleared out Springboard with just a few icons and an app list i can sort by A-Z, most-recently used, most-recently updated, etc... You know like on Windows & Android. I don't need drag & drop nonsense.
     
  21. rmaximo macrumors newbie

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    Well, I hope you permanently stay out of the rumor business because split view drag and drop and the new Files app have leaked.
     
  22. FloatingBones, Jun 5, 2017
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    Keynote over. Your rumor is a big smoking pile of FAIL.
    Drop and drag. Files app with third-party integration (including drop and drag). Easily-accessible split screen with saved desktops. Amazing. Revolutionary.
    Please refrain from posting rumors for the next... ten years or so, OK? ;)
     
  23. smoledman macrumors 68000

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    yet Apple still couldn't figure out an app list after 10 years.
     
  24. FloatingBones macrumors 65816

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    You know with certainty that there will be a way to do this in iOS 11 when it's released? Cite your source.

    Also, since the App Store has only been around for 9 years, how could you possibly score this as a "deficiency" for 10 years? SMH. ;)
     

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