iOS 11 Dock and Gesture Controls to Replace 'iPhone 8' Home Button Entirely

[RedCloud2017]

I spent some time looking at the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 the other day and was not impressed - specifically because of the glare the curved edges induce. I could hardly hold the device where I wasn't constantly seeing reflections from overhead lights and there was just zero use for having anything on-screen bleed over the curved edge.

I think they'd be better off trying to create a flat screen with no frame, if they feel that they just have to do the frameless look in the first place. The curved edge serves no good purpose.

Yeah, I'm baffled by people saying the don't notice the glare ???

I understand them saying that they don't notice the color distortion at the edges since it's noticeable on light backgrounds only (though once you see it it can't be unseen) but there's no missing the glare created by the curved edges. It's atrocious.

 

[atiyoga]

I still believe they'll make the notch black on all phones, even the silver one.
With a black status bar you'd barely notice it thanks to OLED

i *really* hope you are right re the black status bar

 

[LordQ]

Wait, so does this mean only the iPhone Edition will get that pretty, rounded and floating dock as the iPad?

 

[Rob_2811]

thats why there will be a 7 and 7S option.

How is this an actual option over the longer term?

Presumably the design language from this phone eventually makes its way across the line. Its like someone saying I hate the new MacBook Pro Keyboards and suggesting they buy a 2013 model. Its only deferring the problem

They aren't going to continue to sell three phone models long term.

 

[redheeler]

For the iPhone 8, Apple had better include a quick gesture to go to the home screen. This is where I like to start when I unlock my iPhone, and so by habit I often press the home button immediately before pressing the lock button.

So the iPhone will basically work the same way as WebOS did originally nearly 9 years ago
WebOs was well ahead of it's time:

Uploaded a full three years before an app switcher like this showed up in iOS 7...

 

[Dave245]

All the comments saying "I want" since when as it ever worked like that? Never! Steve Jobs once said that people don't know what they want until we show it to them. You may think you still want the home button because you are use to it, just like when ( Touch ID was added) you will get use to and love the new way of doing things, people are resistant to change and Apple are changing things.

We all know that everyone complaining will be pre-ordering and then saying how much they love their new iPhone (let's face it, it happens every year and as become part of the ritual ).

 

[zunamo]

I foresee 3 places to slide down from the top:

• From the left corner to access the "today widgets"
  
• From the center (below the notch) to access notifications
• From the right corner to access control center

This will allow quick access to all the different overlay screens, without having to always go to notification center and slide left or right.

 

[NecroKill]

All the comments saying "I want" since when as it ever worked like that? Never! Steve Jobs once said that people don't know what they want until we show it to them. You may think you still want the home button because you are use to it, just like when ( Touch ID was added) you will get use to and love the new way of doing things, people are resistant to change and Apple are changing things.

We all know that everyone complaining will be TRYING to pre-order pre-ordering and then saying how much they love their new iPhone (let's face it, it happens every year and as become part of the ritual ).

Fixed it for you

 

[martin2345uk]

I foresee 3 places to slide down from the top:

• From the left corner to access the "today widgets"
  
• From the center (below the notch) to access notifications
• From the right corner to access control center

That’s a possibility for sure. I quite like that idea!

 

[KieranDotW]

So the iPhone will basically work the same way as WebOS did originally nearly 9 years ago
WebOs was well ahead of it's time:

A lot of the new iPhone features aren't new. Microsoft's Lumia 950, released two years ago and widely considered a failure, had an OLED display, iris scanner, wireless charging etc. This is the case every year, it doesn't mean much.

 

[charlituna]

One thing that hasn't been addressed that I'm curious about is how these changes will affect the accessibility of the phone. Apple has rather strongly pushed the whole visual, hearing etc stuff. Losing the physical home button could be a downgrade on that front. So how are they going to keep the phone just as usable for the visually impaired

 

[Chupa Chupa]

To be frank, the “swipe photo/card up to dismiss” is now a pretty common gesture in many apps, I can see it being extended to apps themselves. Although it’s a little weird that in the photos app, you’d swipe down to dismiss the photo, up to see more, and up from the bottom of the screen to close the app.

Sure, but the point is people have years of muscle memory baked into using the iPhone with the home button as the anchor. Tech astute and younger, more adaptable people might take to the new system easy but there are a lot of tech dummies and "stuck in their ways" people that are not going to relish having to relearn how to use an iPhone.

Of course, as I said, it sounds complex how it's written up above. What matters is how it actually works. If it's actually simpler, quicker, and more intuitive than the home button, no prob. But if it takes people to do some unwanted studying then it's going to frustrate that latter set of people. Not a good PR story for Apple in that instance. Apple's hallmark is being the company that makes products you don't need a manual to use.
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That quote pretty much says it all about the color of the bezels:


We've seen that "blend-in" illusion with the Apple Watch, and it would totally make sense from Apple to do the same on the future iPhones.

Right, but it only speaks of black. It doesn't in any way exclude other colors.

 

[syndalis]

So how to differentiate opening Control Ctr from opening Multitasking/Home (if both are "swipe up from bottom of screen")?

On iOS11 on iPad, a slight swipe up brings up the dock, a more pronounced one brings up spaces/control center.

Probably similar to that.

 

[DocMultimedia]

That's almost a deal-breaker for me. Don't think I'll be able to ignore it when using the phone and it also sticks out like a sore thumb when the screen is off on the silver variant.

Maybe they'll add a notch to the Apple TV remote so you can tell which side you are holding.

 

[9594864]

That's not going to work too well when the notch is white, is it?

There is no white front....

 

[ChrisMoBro]

They should have opted to hide the notch, it is so fugly. Not cool, Jony Ive. Oh well, I'm sure I'll be happy with the 7S Plus anyway. I'm more concerned with battery life anyway.

 

[truthertech]

No one takes photos at apple do they.

No, and of course, they never thought of this; they just slapped on a button without doing any thinking or testing. That's what the most successful company in the world does with its flagship product.

 

[strategicthinke]

There is no white front....

Stop saying that, some people dread the black bezels. I still trust Jonny Ive will keep the white bezels (he’s always favoured white fronts for iDevices).

 

[blancoBronco]

On iOS11 on iPad, a slight swipe up brings up the dock, a more pronounced one brings up spaces/control center.

Probably similar to that.

I think that is so counter intuitive. Since the introduction of the control center, we've just swiped up as much or as little as we feel comfortable and got the same result. now we have to be careful how much we swipe, because there are 3 possible outcomes (slight for dock, a little more for app switcher, and even more to go home). I just want to swipe up and know exactly what the outcome will be, I don't want to have to be so deliberate in my swipe
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Stop saying that, some people dread the black bezels. I still trust Jonny Ive will keep the white bezels (he’s always favoured white fronts for iDevices).

who hates the black bezels? I really doubt they're going to make this phone with an incredible screen that takes up most of its body, only to obstruct it with the white notch and bezels

 

[Jax44]

Announce the damn event already Apple!

We need the new iPhone before North Korea kick off again

Swipe to blow up North Korea?

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Maybe they'll add a notch to the Apple TV remote so you can tell which side you are holding.

Better yet maybe they'll discontinue that abomination of remote and come up with something more practical. I place the ATV4 remote in the same low regard as the iMac Puck mouse. Both were built for the "cool factor" more than usability. What I hate more than anything is you pick up ATV4 remote to put it away and the slightest touch at the bottom turns on the TV. Not good design.

 

[AudiA4]

Why the F are we still seeing the white-bezel-phone in the article then?? With an OLED screen, Apple won't be putting a white bezel on top of that black screen ofcourse.

Let's hope not. That stupid white bezel ALL THE WAY AROUND looks super dumb, and so 2011.

 

[4jasontv]

Yeah! Gestures that rely on access to the very edge of the screen never have issues when using a case. #YouCan'tGoHomeAgain

 

[springsup]

App developers probably aren’t going to like this. Apple messed up massively when they moved the status bar in to apps as part of iOS7.

We all said the status bar is not part of the app content, and they should try to blend it in with the bezel. It was and still is a massive source of headaches for developers. Now they’re changing it up yet again.

 

[strategicthinke]

Many, many people despise black bezels. Apple has offered more white iPhones than black iPhones since iPhone 5s.
Also, iOS is completely white, it does NOT blend well with the black bezels. Except if you use your iPhone and iPad for movies and watching series, the black bezels are worse to blend with books, emails and websites (all white).
Finally, Jony Ive has always preferred white iPhones for personal use.

Lastly, why couldn’t it have white bezels and a black NOTCH?

I think that is so counter intuitive. Since the introduction of the control center, we've just swiped up as much or as little as we feel comfortable and got the same result. now we have to be careful how much we swipe, because there are 3 possible outcomes (slight for dock, a little more for app switcher, and even more to go home). I just want to swipe up and know exactly what the outcome will be, I don't want to have to be so deliberate in my swipe
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who hates the black bezels? I really doubt they're going to make this phone with an incredible screen that takes up most of its body, only to obstruct it with the white notch and bezels