iOS 11 Installed on Almost 55% of Devices One Month After Launch

[PhillyProf]

you dont read macrumors much either

It's been reported/discussed many times here, the CC toggles dont actually turn off bluetooth or wifi anymore...

That's funny. I didn't know it was a requirement to read all the negativity on MacRumors in order to comment. If I had read all of it, it still wouldn't change my positive experience with iOS 11. And when I hit the CC toggle for Wi-Fi, it definitely disconnects my phone from the network. Moreover, it hasn't slowed down my phone at all. YMMV.

 

[john123]

That's funny. I didn't know it was a requirement to read all the negativity on MacRumors in order to comment. If I had read all of it, it still wouldn't change my positive experience with iOS 11. And when I hit the CC toggle for Wi-Fi, it definitely disconnects my phone from the network. Moreover, it hasn't slowed down my phone at all. YMMV.

His point, which admittedly could have been made without the snark, is that turning WiFi off via CC really ought to...you know...actually turn it off. Like it has in the past. Not just disconnect you from the existing network.

But based on the phrasing of your reply, I think you maybe knew that. And before you (or anyone) says that you "like" the way it works now, I'll note that a whole bunch of security experts have decried this change as something that leaves unknowing users potentially open to unnecessary risk. And it wasn't even *necessary*; with a customizable CC now, we could have had separate toggles. It's mind-boggling.

But that aside...I don't get why this always has to be a holy war. Some people love iOS 11. Some people don't. It has a chunk of issues that clearly bother some people and don't bother others.
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That's all great, but what do you do when you are ready to install the 11 update? I've not seen any information on how to get back to a iOS profile once you've installed the tvOS profile

Simple. You delete the tvOS profile and restart your phone. Bam. You're back in business.

 

[grundoon]

Translation: iOS 11 now installed on 68% of eligible devices.

I'm now starting to look forward to complete puzzlement when it stalls out between "75" and "80" (aka 95%+ of eligible devices).

So.... care to explain how you came to that conclusion?

Sure. These iOS 10 -> 11 adoption rates don't take into account active iOS 10 devices which cannot actually run iOS 11. Between iPhone 5, 5c, and iPad 4th generation, somewhere in the neighborhood of 200M of such devices were sold, and most are still in use.

Those simply need to be backed out of calculations to discuss true uptake rates. Something which MacRumors has steadfastly failed to do before "comparing", speculating or editorializing on the topic.

 

[cbaca51]

Still on IOS10

Waiting to get the X, might as well wait for that since it will have IOS11 on it already

 

[MH01]

Sure. These iOS 10 -> 11 adoption rates don't take into account active iOS 10 devices which cannot actually run iOS 11. Between iPhone 5, 5c, and iPad 4th generation, somewhere in the neighborhood of 200M of such devices were sold, and most are still in use.

Those simply need to be backed out of calculations to discuss true uptake rates. Something which MacRumors has steadfastly failed to do before "comparing", speculating or editorializing on the topic.

I see what you mean. The report just shows state of iOS 9, 10 and 11. So post launch you see a transition between 10 and 11 and you are correct there are devices that are no able to upgrade. Poor analytics , very poor

 

[code-m]

Yup, and it sucks. I hate that Apple is making me choose between the OS version that I prefer on my device and security. They don't do it on macOS, and they shouldn't on iOS, either.

The iOS AppStore is a bigger revenue generator compared to the MacApp Store. I agree that Apple should at least provide security updates for prior iOS versions, however its in they interest to steer people to the newest iOS available. This is done to entice developers new and veterans to utilize the present technology to create better apps and user functionality, and to stay relevant amounts its rivials.

Remember that I agree with you on this issue, as Apple provides security updates to previous MacOS version (up to a point), however it simple economics:

New technology = New Apps to use that technology from veteran developers and new enterants.
New technology = Presently used/ established apps forces the developer to update, effectively generating a renewal of a developers account within the developers program.
New technology = May offer greater software and hardware capabilities, this may provide the perception to an end-user that iOS updates are slowing they hardware down and may be forced to upgrade to newer hardware to use that favourite app and/or hardware.
New Mac technology, Apple does not control the X86/X64 chip development and are at Intels mercy. With the A series processors being developed in-house bring greater flexibility, customization and advances to be deployed in a specific timeframe and time line.

I am uncertain, if this is done intentionally or to manage Human Resources. It’s in Apples benefit to have a streamlined team of programming departments.

Development had begun on iOS 12 shortly after WWDC 2017, same with MacOS. It had been noted a while ago that Apple has two development teams for a specific OS. This basically says that to support MacOS Client/Server, iOS iPhone/iPad, Watch OS, TVOS, HomePod OS (presently), Apple Software, future R&D projects, there are possibly 8-14 software development teams within Apple Inc. In this scenario supporting previous generation iOS security updates is of a low priority as there is not much revenue or hardware income to generate.

Third-party developers have yet to use the power of the A9 and A10/X chips and we now have A11 on the scene. The iPad Pro 2017 has been on the market for 3-4 months depending on time of announcement and time of release, and there are few case options for the 10.5” version and even fewer updated 12.9” version.

I honestly hope that Apple incorporates a software compiler in iOS 12 for programmers, maybe port XCode to iOS 12, even a lite version is better than the present non-representation.

 

[LordVic]

Sure. These iOS 10 -> 11 adoption rates don't take into account active iOS 10 devices which cannot actually run iOS 11. Between iPhone 5, 5c, and iPad 4th generation, somewhere in the neighborhood of 200M of such devices were sold, and most are still in use.

Those simply need to be backed out of calculations to discuss true uptake rates. Something which MacRumors has steadfastly failed to do before "comparing", speculating or editorializing on the topic.

Not sure I agree with removing the older devices. Is it an interesting metric, yes. I like stats/figures.

But in the end, iOS adoption rates should include devices in use, but cannot be updates, since they are still active iOS devices. My father has a 4, and uses his iPad everyday. Should his iPad magically no longer count towards these statistics? What about my 1st gen iPod touch that is on iOS3 that I use daily? should it not count because it's old? even if it does everything I task it with?

The barrier of "in use" is far far more easier to grasp than some other artificial barrier.

 

[grundoon]

Not sure I agree with removing the older devices. Is it an interesting metric, yes. I like stats/figures.

But in the end, iOS adoption rates should include devices in use, but cannot be updates, since they are still active iOS devices. My father has a 4, and uses his iPad everyday. Should his iPad magically no longer count towards these statistics? What about my 1st gen iPod touch that is on iOS3 that I use daily? should it not count because it's old? even if it does everything I task it with?

The barrier of "in use" is far far more easier to grasp than some other artificial barrier.

Full-picture metrics are great! They're not merely interesting, they provide important guidance to app development.

Uptake rate metrics I suppose also possess those traits to some extent (or maybe not so much, since a little back-of-envelope adjustment work shows that iOS 8, 9, 10 and 11 adoption rates all more-or-less fall in line). But any meaningful analysis of this stuff would at minimum require attempting to eliminate both (a) devices that are not eligible for the latest release, and (b) the ever-increasing number of devices that have been sold *since* the release.

These Mixpanel graphs are of the raw full-picture snapshot variety, and MacRumors is spending this entire series using them to "analyze" numbers, overlooking the basic math skew that this year falls heavily on the (a) side of things, and in other years (b) inflates their adoption reports.

 

[HVDynamo]

I miss the good old days where Apple released extremely stable/well polished software. Now we get “good enough” versions and spend the rest of the year ironing out everything just in time to start all over again.

and on top of that they make it annoying when you don't upgrade by asking you incessantly "do you want to upgrade tonight??!" Can I just have the little number on the settings app and leave it at that? I am sick of having updates pushed so hard. At least it isn't as bad as Windows 10 update system, but it's still really annoying when you are waiting for fixes for things before pulling the trigger. With OS X I have started just staying one OS behind. I will upgrade to the newest one shortly before the next one is released. Then I typically get a stable upgrade path.
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Amazing the number of negative comments in this thread from people who have not installed iOS 11. How would you know if it’s good or bad if you haven’t installed it? It’s working great for me. In fact I found that things are a little bit snappier.

I installed it and have regretted it ever since. I'd list the issues, but I don't feel like typing that much right now.

 

[john123]

Amazing the number of negative comments in this thread from people who have not installed iOS 11. How would you know if it’s good or bad if you haven’t installed it? It’s working great for me. In fact I found that things are a little bit snappier.

Ditto the poster above. I tried it too. It was an easy decision to downgrade.

 

[laz232]

You don’t use iCloud? How do you sync personal photos and contacts between devices? Or even settings or notes or reminders.

I don't want or need an iPad. My engineering job requires a real computer / full OS.

I have a MacBook and and iPhone - it's annoyingly that Apple does not provoke local notes / reminders sync, but not a deal breaker.

All photos are copied, stored and processed in Adobe Lightroom on the MacBook - seeing how Apple has treated (abandoned) their professional customers with Aperture I will never trust them with photos etc. I then have iTunes sync a Lightroom export directory. Contacts are synced through iTunes and google

 

[jakebrosy]

I don't understand why this irrelevant statistic is trotted out after every iOS release.

If you don't want to update your iPhone you have to dismiss an ever-more-annoying nag screen at least once a day. At some point you just have to give up and do the d@mn update.

And, yes, every iOS device in the house is updated to iOS 11. Nothing wrong with it: just wish I could set the reminder to a less-frequent setting.

iOS 11 Installed on Almost 55% of Devices

 

[SteveW928]

Amazing the number of negative comments in this thread from people who have not installed iOS 11. How would you know if it’s good or bad if you haven’t installed it? It’s working great for me. In fact I found that things are a little bit snappier.

Maybe we pay attention to website and podcasts reporting on iOS?

To be fair, in the early days of iOS 10 some made references to it being the Windows Vista of iOS, and prior to that in the early days of iOS 9 some made those statements, and prior to that some made those statements in the early days of iOS 8, etc.

I think that was iOS 7. That's the point where Apple tossed out all their hard-learned knowledge on UI/UX and added a ton of buggy, incomplete features.

Did I miss all the people saying they are still loving iOS 6? lol

Well, most of us update to get new features and especially, security fixes (and app compatibility, etc.). But, iOS 6 was a better OS.

Why is it "sad"? Honestly curious. Even now, smartphones are primarily communication devices, and emoji are a pretty common method of communication. Would you find it more acceptable to be excited over a new file management app or redesigned control center?

Yes, absolutely! Some of us use our devices for more than toys. I'm not opposed to emojis, but I want some actual solid quality improvements and useful stuff. I think what we're bemoaning is that some of the updates/Keynotes have been *primarily* about emojis.... or that possibly Apple's new target market has little else to concern themselves with.